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OrgoneConclusion said: How silly of me for not believing for no reason. I moved past that at age nine.
i actually would not expect you to believe me on this particular issue and don't hold it against you at all that you don't, i was just presenting my perspective, which i knew you guys wouldn't agree with
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: g00ru]
#14366958 - 04/28/11 01:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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So much for that...
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: g00ru]
#14366967 - 04/28/11 01:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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The huge difference between you and me: I can hand-hold you or anyone else step-by-step to show how I came to a certain conclusion. No chasm-jumping is necessary.
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: auxiliary]
#14366971 - 04/28/11 01:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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A smattering of debate then some enormous illogical leap - and guruu and others wonder why their ideas are ridiculed.
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: g00ru]
#14367202 - 04/28/11 02:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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If there's material evidence for something... by all means listen to the evidence.
So the clear, unassailable evidence from molecular biology showing that, due to obligate telomere degeneration at the chromosome terminus (a necessary consequence of living), it is impossible for a human to live that long doesn't count, right? Molecular dynamics place a hard limit on lifespan, but that evidence doesn't even come into your consideration when it undermines a pre-conclusion, right?
Which doesn't surprise me. You lend weight only to evidence that supports your pre-conclusions and dismiss any contrary evidence out of hand.
Like I said, it's the same mindset that puts one of the most benign drugs known to man in DEA Schedule I along with heroin and methamphetamine while alcohol and nicotine can be purchased at a grocery store.
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: g00ru]
#14367274 - 04/28/11 02:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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guruu said: oh disclaimer: please don't use that as an excuse to not take what I have to say seriously, as i'm obviously an intelligent human being.
You always say this, as if you have to post it in order to prove it to yourself--who are you trying to kid?
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: Poid] 1
#14368143 - 04/28/11 04:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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living that long would be depressing.
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: Diploid]
#14368618 - 04/28/11 06:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Diploid said: Well, now I see how you can post so much goofy nonsense. 
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4) Avoid malicious personalisms. We're all human and nobody expects a completely sterile discussion, but please try to keep to the topic, and leave the folks you're talking to personally out of the discussion. A certain level of personal banter is in the grey area while getting to know your fellow posters over time, but keep it well-intentioned and keep it ON-TOPIC. What constitutes malice is left up to the moderator's discretion; if you have any questions, complaints or suggestions please notify a moderator.
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: zappaisgod]
#14368640 - 04/28/11 06:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Where is the malicious personalism?
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: g00ru]
#14368668 - 04/28/11 06:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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You actually believe someone has been alive since 500 A.D? May I ask why? Assuming there is at least some sort of reason.
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Diploid said: If there's material evidence for something... by all means listen to the evidence.
So the clear, unassailable evidence from molecular biology showing that, due to obligate telomere degeneration at the chromosome terminus (a necessary consequence of living), it is impossible for a human to live that long doesn't count, right? Molecular dynamics place a hard limit on lifespan, but that evidence doesn't even come into your consideration when it undermines a pre-conclusion, right?
Which doesn't surprise me. You lend weight only to evidence that supports your pre-conclusions and dismiss any contrary evidence out of hand.
Like I said, it's the same mindset that puts one of the most benign drugs known to man in DEA Schedule I along with heroin and methamphetamine while alcohol and nicotine can be purchased at a grocery store.
i have personal evidence that there are more fundamental forces which can overcome all those big science words.
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OrgoneConclusion said: A smattering of debate then some enormous illogical leap - and guruu and others wonder why their ideas are ridiculed.
that illogical leap is aka overcoming your fears and actually diving into the experience, rather than just talking and thinking, actually doing.
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: g00ru]
#14368686 - 04/28/11 06:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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guruu said:
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Diploid said: If there's material evidence for something... by all means listen to the evidence.
So the clear, unassailable evidence from molecular biology showing that, due to obligate telomere degeneration at the chromosome terminus (a necessary consequence of living), it is impossible for a human to live that long doesn't count, right? Molecular dynamics place a hard limit on lifespan, but that evidence doesn't even come into your consideration when it undermines a pre-conclusion, right?
Which doesn't surprise me. You lend weight only to evidence that supports your pre-conclusions and dismiss any contrary evidence out of hand.
Like I said, it's the same mindset that puts one of the most benign drugs known to man in DEA Schedule I along with heroin and methamphetamine while alcohol and nicotine can be purchased at a grocery store.
i have personal evidence that there are more fundamental forces which can overcome all those big science words.
What kind of personal evidence?
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: Poid]
#14368690 - 04/28/11 06:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well, now I see how you can post so much goofy nonsense. 
Not only does it address the post in question but it references prior "goofy nonsense" in a dismissive and personalized fashion. A total personalism.
I'm only twitting him because I think he has been ridiculous and arbitrary in the past. It's all OK.
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: Poid]
#14368696 - 04/28/11 06:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Poid said:
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guruu said:
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Diploid said: If there's material evidence for something... by all means listen to the evidence.
So the clear, unassailable evidence from molecular biology showing that, due to obligate telomere degeneration at the chromosome terminus (a necessary consequence of living), it is impossible for a human to live that long doesn't count, right? Molecular dynamics place a hard limit on lifespan, but that evidence doesn't even come into your consideration when it undermines a pre-conclusion, right?
Which doesn't surprise me. You lend weight only to evidence that supports your pre-conclusions and dismiss any contrary evidence out of hand.
Like I said, it's the same mindset that puts one of the most benign drugs known to man in DEA Schedule I along with heroin and methamphetamine while alcohol and nicotine can be purchased at a grocery store.
i have personal evidence that there are more fundamental forces which can overcome all those big science words.
What kind of personal evidence?
realization of being
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: g00ru]
#14368707 - 04/28/11 06:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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What does that mean, and how is it evidence?
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: Diploid] 1
#14368711 - 04/28/11 06:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Can we make a new rule to ban users with total non contributions?
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: zappaisgod]
#14368731 - 04/28/11 06:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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it references prior "goofy nonsense"... A total personalism.
Sorry, no. It's an idealism or an argumentism. I'm calling his posts (his ideas, his arguments) goofy. That is expressly allowed and encouraged by the rules.
And it's a far cry from calling HIM goofy, which would be against the rules. It's a subtle difference but here's why it works. In philosophical debate, it is common to argue a position you don't even agree with, both as an academic exercise and to expose the idea to the crucible of debate.
This is why I can call your posts, ideas, and arguments "goofy" without calling YOU goofy. You may not even believe in your own argument and so are not under attack when your argument is.
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If you choose to post in this forum be prepared to have your ideas and opinions challenged, refuted, disputed, rebutted, analyzed, shredded, pooh-poohed, and yes - even supported. If having your beliefs, opinions, and positions scrutinized critically makes you uncomfortable, this is not the forum for you.
This has been covered here ad nauseam over the years.
Can we make a new rule to ban users with total non contributions?
Yeah, let's get back on-topic now please. PM me if you still think I should ban myself and we'll discuss it.
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: Diploid]
#14368767 - 04/28/11 06:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Here is another immortal. It is just a disguise that he looks 64 years old.
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: Grapefruit]
#14369652 - 04/28/11 09:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Grapefruit said: Can we make a new rule to ban users with total non contributions?
burn the witch!!!
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