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can you really lose your mind tripping? * 1
    #14365080 - 04/28/11 03:22 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i always see people on this site saying they are either scared or dont trust themselves enough to just let go while on a shroom or acid trip. well i have done both tons of times and been pretty far deep down into the trip. even sometimes thought i`d never go back to normal. but of course ALWAYS have come back to normal. so is there really a big enough dose to LOSE your mind completely and never return to normal state? never return to being yourself?

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Re: can you really lose your mind tripping? [Re: S14sliding]
    #14365089 - 04/28/11 03:23 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I dunno man. I've dosed pretty high on shrooms and always come back to reality... I don't think you could lose your mind, as in, develop schizophrenia, but I could see it causing PTSD, panic attacks, nightmares or other mental problems.


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Re: can you really lose your mind tripping? [Re: S14sliding]
    #14365142 - 04/28/11 03:55 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I've got two answers.

One is yes, temporarily. Psychedelics can put you into a state that some might call psychotic, even after the trip has ended but this doesn't last long. I think the most dramatic example of this is what happened to Dennis McKenna.

The second answer is yes, but not after a single trip. People have gone psychotic after using psychedelics habitually, which caused latent psychological disorders to manisfest, which results in, as Terence McKenna would have said, "Your behaviour becoming so unusual that they eventually end up having to throw a net over you."

Both of the McKenna brothers mentioned, do I win a prize? :awesome:

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Re: can you really lose your mind tripping? [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #14365149 - 04/28/11 04:06 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

PTSD as in post traumatic stress disorder? and i have no idea what happened to Dennis McKenna i just did a search and found nothing maybe you could enlighten me....

and i dont see the reason for people that trip all the time (the habitual tripper i guess u can ssy) i trip once have a really good time and dont even feel like tripping for awhile. i feel like tripping all the time takes away from the fun and then it ends up getting boring like anything else you would do all the time.

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Re: can you really lose your mind tripping? [Re: S14sliding]
    #14365197 - 04/28/11 04:38 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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PTSD as in post traumatic stress disorder? and i have no idea what happened to Dennis McKenna i just did a search and found nothing maybe you could enlighten me....

and i dont see the reason for people that trip all the time (the habitual tripper i guess u can ssy) i trip once have a really good time and dont even feel like tripping for awhile. i feel like tripping all the time takes away from the fun and then it ends up getting boring like anything else you would do all the time.




Yeah, pretty much any event that causes enough trauma can give you PTSD from what I've read. Rape, battle fatigue, car accidents...hell you name it.

I'm guessing that's gotta be one intense trip, though, or you've got a predilection for it. Usually, in the back of my mind, I always know I'm going to come down eventually.


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Re: can you really lose your mind tripping? [Re: S14sliding]
    #14365239 - 04/28/11 05:12 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I reckon most people go insane from clinging on or a latent mental problem that gets exasperated - but its its easy to say let go than to actually do it.

I've had trips so intense I was convinced I was dying and had to surrender to death / a higher being.

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Re: can you really lose your mind tripping? [Re: nice1]
    #14365296 - 04/28/11 05:47 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

well i`ve never had trips thinking i was dying my best friend has. i`ve only had trips where i thought mind would stop and i`d stay tripping forever lol (those trips were my first times tripping) now i always know that i`ll come back down eventually no matter what. and now i love playing with time while im tripping and being in control of my visuals its really so much fun now compared to when your learning about the experience the first couple times

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Re: can you really lose your mind tripping? [Re: S14sliding]
    #14365373 - 04/28/11 06:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yes

ever met people that just stare for hours to the sky then when you ask them what's up they suddenly come back to reality and are like huh, what happened? (literally hours, without moving)

Or vocabulary that doesn't make sense

just insane people in general. i've met a few that had lsd-induced callitwhatevercraziness

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Re: can you really lose your mind tripping? [Re: S14sliding]
    #14365375 - 04/28/11 06:32 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Well shrooms can make you teh gay.

Psychedelics won't make you lose your mind.
However in some cases it will bring out earlier psychosis.
But that doesn't mean you would not have gotten it if you had not taken psychedelics.
It just shows itself earlier.

But then is psychosis really a mental illness?
Who knows.

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Re: can you really lose your mind tripping? [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14365384 - 04/28/11 06:35 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

This thread got me thinking, and I just wrote up a trip report about the closest I ever got to going insane on mushrooms.


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Re: can you really lose your mind tripping? [Re: S14sliding]
    #14365445 - 04/28/11 07:02 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

no


but couldn't hurt to write yourself a note so you remember where you put it


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Re: can you really lose your mind tripping? [Re: Set]
    #14365470 - 04/28/11 07:12 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

with LSD a study showed that huge doses for four weeks every day caused 0.03% to loose ther mind, out of whom some recovered partally.

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Re: can you really lose your mind tripping? [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14367100 - 04/28/11 01:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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nice1 said:
I reckon most people go insane from clinging on or a latent mental problem that gets exasperated - but its its easy to say let go than to actually do it.

I've had trips so intense I was convinced I was dying and had to surrender to death / a higher being.




what do you mean by clinging on?
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Well shrooms can make you teh gay.

Psychedelics won't make you lose your mind.
However in some cases it will bring out earlier psychosis.
But that doesn't mean you would not have gotten it if you had not taken psychedelics.
It just shows itself earlier.

But then is psychosis really a mental illness?
Who knows.

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shrooms make you gay?? hmm i highly doubt it maybe shrooms just have people that ARE ALRESDY gay come out the closet but i doubt that a str8 guy with a girlfriend one night of tripping all of a sudden turns gay

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Re: can you really lose your mind tripping? [Re: S14sliding]
    #14367125 - 04/28/11 02:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

maybe someone else, but ive been wayyyyyyyyyyy out there and i always come back. so i have no reason to believe i will ever go crazy due to a powerful trip.


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Re: can you really lose your mind tripping? [Re: S14sliding]
    #14367127 - 04/28/11 02:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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shrooms make you gay?? hmm i highly doubt it maybe shrooms just have people that ARE ALRESDY gay come out the closet but i doubt that a str8 guy with a girlfriend one night of tripping all of a sudden turns gay





It's scientifically proven.

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Re: can you really lose your mind tripping? [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #14367206 - 04/28/11 02:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

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shrooms make you gay?? hmm i highly doubt it maybe shrooms just have people that ARE ALRESDY gay come out the closet but i doubt that a str8 guy with a girlfriend one night of tripping all of a sudden turns gay





It's scientifically proven.



lol wow people really..come on now

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Re: can you really lose your mind tripping? [Re: S14sliding]
    #14367293 - 04/28/11 02:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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S14sliding said:
Quote:

Mad_Larkin said:
Quote:

S14sliding said:


shrooms make you gay?? hmm i highly doubt it maybe shrooms just have people that ARE ALRESDY gay come out the closet but i doubt that a str8 guy with a girlfriend one night of tripping all of a sudden turns gay





It's scientifically proven.



lol wow people really..come on now



https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7339047/fpart/1/vc/1

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/3193930/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1

Need more proof?

If you trip around a guy
your gonna be  :blowjob: by the end of the night
and your gonna love it
:gayflag:


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Something abut that anaesthetic rush... :inlove:

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Re: can you really lose your mind tripping? [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14367356 - 04/28/11 02:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It's a well known fact that shrooms make you want to eat dick.


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Re: can you really lose your mind tripping? [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14367365 - 04/28/11 02:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

tymoteusz3 said:
Quote:

S14sliding said:
Quote:

Mad_Larkin said:
Quote:

S14sliding said:


shrooms make you gay?? hmm i highly doubt it maybe shrooms just have people that ARE ALRESDY gay come out the closet but i doubt that a str8 guy with a girlfriend one night of tripping all of a sudden turns gay





It's scientifically proven.



lol wow people really..come on now



https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7339047/fpart/1/vc/1

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/3193930/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1

Need more proof?

If you trip around a guy
your gonna be  :blowjob: by the end of the night
and your gonna love it
:gayflag:



maybe the people that are actually gay and have not addmited to themselevs while they are sober adn while tripping they accept it (since the ego does tend to not be so important while tripping) but thats the last thing i`ll say about the gay topic
lets get back to the original topic! =)

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Re: can you really lose your mind tripping? [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14367369 - 04/28/11 02:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

tymoteusz3 said:
Quote:

S14sliding said:
Quote:

Mad_Larkin said:
Quote:

S14sliding said:


shrooms make you gay?? hmm i highly doubt it maybe shrooms just have people that ARE ALRESDY gay come out the closet but i doubt that a str8 guy with a girlfriend one night of tripping all of a sudden turns gay





It's scientifically proven.



lol wow people really..come on now



https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7339047/fpart/1/vc/1

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/3193930/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1

Need more proof?

If you trip around a guy
your gonna be  :blowjob: by the end of the night
and your gonna love it
:gayflag:




Besides mushrooms basically look like dicks.  what more proof do you need.  :doggystyle:

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