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d0urd3n
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THC Drops/Green Dragon
#14364140 - 04/27/11 10:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Alright so I dislike smoking, and I like the idea of being inconspicous and getting high in public so I thought Id make a cannibus tincture.
From what I have heard is that it gives more of a body high so the question is, does using a mostly sativa waste the herb?
Also what proof should I use? Some say you want 100 proof since the water absorbs some alkaloids/cannabinoids, others say you want like everclear.
If the tincture is too weak do I just leave the lid of the jar off in a dark area for some of the alchohol to evaporate or does this evaporate the active chemicals as well?
Thanks guys.
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Re: THC Drops/Green Dragon [Re: d0urd3n]
#14364175 - 04/27/11 10:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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the THC is going to bond to the alcohol; everclear would be best.
feel free to put it under a fan to evaporate as much as you like. you would normally use as much alcohol as possible, and evaporate as much as you want to get it to the strength you want, or you can evaporate all of the alcohol and be left with brown goo. people call this (ethanol) hash oil. you can smoke that or mix it with melted chocolate and eat it. it is strong but delicious.
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d0urd3n
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Re: THC Drops/Green Dragon [Re: jingus]
#14364312 - 04/27/11 11:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks for this info man. Not sure on your amount of other tincture experience but would 100 proof be better for like a nettle extract, etc, because some sites I read say you want water as well to absorb some helpful properties. I guess if this is true I could just add water to the extract? What are your thoughts or knowledge about this? Or anyone for that matter.
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Re: THC Drops/Green Dragon [Re: d0urd3n]
#14364333 - 04/27/11 11:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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geta magic flight launch box, they're stealthy and emit little odor. plus you can use the vapepoo and make some edibles
unless you're set on making a tincture, in which case i am of no help
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d0urd3n
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Re: THC Drops/Green Dragon [Re: d0urd3n]
#14364372 - 04/27/11 11:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I like the idea of tinctures and don't smoke enough to make a vaperizer worth the moola. Thanks for the advice though :P
Do I have to use a fan or can I just leave it with the lid off in my closet?Or will this take too long? I don't have a fan haha.
Edited by d0urd3n (04/27/11 11:20 PM)
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Re: THC Drops/Green Dragon [Re: d0urd3n]
#14365179 - 04/28/11 04:23 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Why would it waste the herb if it was sativa? I understand the question and exactly why you asked but no it will not waste it you will get the same effect from sativa or indica.
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d0urd3n
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Re: THC Drops/Green Dragon [Re: skiddy]
#14367838 - 04/28/11 04:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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So if I make other tinctures and want 100 proof can I simply add water? And how long will it take for like a quarter of the tincure to evaporate without a fan? Any ideas?
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Re: THC Drops/Green Dragon [Re: d0urd3n]
#14367905 - 04/28/11 04:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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d0urd3n said: So if I make other tinctures and want 100 proof can I simply add water? And how long will it take for like a quarter of the tincure to evaporate without a fan? Any ideas?
Don't add water. Use everclear. Leave it sitting somewhere to evaporate the alcohol until it's as concentrated as you want it to be.
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d0urd3n
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Re: THC Drops/Green Dragon [Re: healing]
#14367979 - 04/28/11 04:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks for the reply. But I heard you want 100 proof for most other herbs so I am wondering how true this is? Are there chemicals alcohol won't dissolve but water will?
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Re: THC Drops/Green Dragon [Re: d0urd3n]
#14368100 - 04/28/11 04:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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d0urd3n said: Thanks for the reply. But I heard you want 100 proof for most other herbs so I am wondering how true this is? Are there chemicals alcohol won't dissolve but water will?
im pretty sure this has been said but the HIGHER the proof the better its going to be the alcohol is the part you want not the water so dont add water i mean you can if you want but seems like a waste. anyways have fun with this my friend was trying to get me to help him make some we never did might though soon
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Re: THC Drops/Green Dragon [Re: d0urd3n]
#14368136 - 04/28/11 04:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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d0urd3n said: Thanks for the reply. But I heard you want 100 proof for most other herbs so I am wondering how true this is? Are there chemicals alcohol won't dissolve but water will?
THC is an oil, dude. Add water if you want, but it's not going to do anything other than making your solution take a lot longer to evaporate.
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d0urd3n
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Re: THC Drops/Green Dragon [Re: healing]
#14368196 - 04/28/11 05:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I get that pure alcohol is the best for cannabis tinctures, however, generally speaking I have heard that 100 proof is best for most other herbs. What I am asking is the validity of this. Is there really anything water will dissolve but alchohol won't in most herbs?
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Re: THC Drops/Green Dragon [Re: d0urd3n]
#14368299 - 04/28/11 05:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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ummm my brains telling me no...because its just water and all plants would of already been extracted of the things that water could extract just from being out in the rain.
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Re: THC Drops/Green Dragon [Re: d0urd3n]
#14368464 - 04/28/11 06:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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d0urd3n said: Is there really anything water will dissolve but alchohol won't in most herbs?
Yes, most of what's inside the plant cells is water with various chemicals in solution.
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d0urd3n
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Re: THC Drops/Green Dragon [Re: healing]
#14368853 - 04/28/11 07:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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So bottom line - use 200 proof for cannibus but add water for other herbs or no? The wording of the last post confused me.
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Re: THC Drops/Green Dragon [Re: d0urd3n]
#14369260 - 04/28/11 08:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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YES USE FUCKING EVERCLEAR!!!!
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Re: THC Drops/Green Dragon [Re: mattritt]
#14369333 - 04/28/11 08:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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youre making this too complicated.
grind herbs
put herbs in gatorade bottle.
put everclear in gatorade bottle.
put bottle under yuor bed for some weeks or months.
evap or drink straight up.
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Re: THC Drops/Green Dragon [Re: d0urd3n]
#14369538 - 04/28/11 08:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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d0urd3n said: So bottom line - use 200 proof for cannibus but add water for other herbs or no? The wording of the last post confused me.
The only thing you want out of the cannabis is the oils that make you high. To dissolve those oils you need to use everclear.
In other plants there are numerous chemicals that could be considered useful in one way or another, some of these things need a polar solvent (like water), but some require a non-polar solvent (like alcohol).
It all depends on what you're trying to get out of the plant.
Just to reiterate:
USE EVERCLEAR TO EXTRACT THE THC.
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Re: THC Drops/Green Dragon [Re: healing]
#14369976 - 04/28/11 10:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've read a tek about heating the bud in the oven at a super low temperture to convert the cannabinoids to a more active form. Does anyone know if this helps or not?
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Re: THC Drops/Green Dragon [Re: mattritt]
#14369980 - 04/28/11 10:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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mattritt said: I've read a tek about heating the bud in the oven at a super low temperture to convert the cannabinoids to a more active form. Does anyone know if this helps or not?
it just gets it done faster
not more
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