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FAE problem outdoor greenhouse
    #14359738 - 04/27/11 06:43 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

So there's a new and unexpected problem this year.  I can't get enough FAE in my portable greenhouse that is outside.  It has plenty of slits and I leave the door unzipped.  When first introduced to chamber, the pans (horse poo/straw, cased 50/50) shared the space with new garden veggies, which created great humidity.  I'm wondering if the plants took too much O2.

Second part of my question, once you get fat, FAE starved pins, can they recover?  I would assume the only effect is cosmetic, but please someone chime in if that's not true.

PS- I have no way to hook up humidifiers, ultrasonics, etc.  I have to rely solely on Mother Nature, misting and perlite.


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Re: FAE problem outdoor greenhouse [Re: 4yrears]
    #14359744 - 04/27/11 06:46 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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So there's a new and unexpected problem this year.  I can't get enough FAE in my portable greenhouse that is outside.  It has plenty of slits and I leave the door unzipped.  When first introduced to chamber, the pans (horse poo/straw, cased 50/50) shared the space with new garden veggies, which created great humidity.  I'm wondering if the plants took too much O2.

Second part of my question, once you get fat, FAE starved pins, can they recover?  I would assume the only effect is cosmetic, but please someone chime in if that's not true.

PS- I have no way to hook up humidifiers, ultrasonics, etc.  I have to rely solely on Mother Nature, misting and perlite.




"fat pins" aren't really the first thing I think of when I think about an FAE starved fruiting chamber.


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Re: FAE problem outdoor greenhouse [Re: 4yrears]
    #14359745 - 04/27/11 06:46 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

pics of fat pins?


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Re: FAE problem outdoor greenhouse [Re: Doc_T]
    #14359780 - 04/27/11 07:02 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Plants also don't consume O2....they generate it.


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Re: FAE problem outdoor greenhouse [Re: oysterlover]
    #14359817 - 04/27/11 07:15 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

A heat source, like a big engine, stove or melting pot, will generate a convective vertical air flow. If the bottom of your GH is warmer than the top it would create a natural upward air flow. You could try putting reflective mylar on the top of the GH to reflect the heat from entering the top and it might make the top a few degrees cooler than the bottom creating a current from bottom to top, or move the GH to where the bottom gets some sun and the top doesn't?:shrug: Just an idea, may or may not work, I don't know.


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Re: FAE problem outdoor greenhouse [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14363471 - 04/27/11 08:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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A heat source, like a big engine, stove or melting pot, will generate a convective vertical air flow. If the bottom of your GH is warmer than the top it would create a natural upward air flow. You could try putting reflective mylar on the top of the GH to reflect the heat from entering the top and it might make the top a few degrees cooler than the bottom creating a current from bottom to top, or move the GH to where the bottom gets some sun and the top doesn't?:shrug: Just an idea, may or may not work, I don't know.




The greenhouse is in the shade 100% of the time.  Temps did get high, but not obscenely high.  The top was definitely warmer than the bottom.


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Re: FAE problem outdoor greenhouse [Re: 4yrears]
    #14363485 - 04/27/11 08:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Short, fat bodies with small caps are due to poor FAE, which are what the pins and adults look like.


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Re: FAE problem outdoor greenhouse [Re: 4yrears]
    #14363832 - 04/27/11 09:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ever thought of hooking a computer fan to a car battery with a rheostat in line with the fan so you could turn it down very low, maybe attach the fan to a piece of PVC to make a place to stuff poly for a filter and to further restrict airflow. Like the fan in my sig. You can get a rheostat from radioshack and you would rarely have to charge the battery if you had it going as slow as it possibly could, might drop your RH don't know just an idea.


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