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Mushroom growing + hotboxed room?
    #14362996 - 04/27/11 07:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Hey guys, so basically I'm in the middle of my first grow, about to put the cake in the fruiting chamber in the next couple of days. I've got exams during the next 2 months, otherwise I would have documented the whole thing over the forums!
(I guess I just got too excited when my spores came through the post, couldn't wait till exams were over :])

Anyway, when the mushrooms are growing if my room also gets hotboxed from smoking will that effect the mushrooms in any way? i.e. increase the likelihood of contamination or something?

No matter how wide the window is open it usually gets pretty smokey!


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Re: Mushroom growing + hotboxed room? [Re: JudgeDJ]
    #14363047 - 04/27/11 07:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

To be honest I didn't know whether to ask this question or not. Seemed like it might be dumb.
But I'd rather be safe than sorry, as tobacco is basically a poison!


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Re: Mushroom growing + hotboxed room? [Re: JudgeDJ]
    #14363062 - 04/27/11 07:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

ive seen it asked before. from what i think there should be no harm done. if plants can withstand it then mushies can too..

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Re: Mushroom growing + hotboxed room? [Re: JudgeDJ]
    #14363087 - 04/27/11 07:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quit smoking or you will give your mushies emphysema, smoke is vaporized ashes. Mushrooms use oxygen, carbon dioxide is used by plants and mold so green plants can actually use some of the smoke to grow, mushrooms can't, so at the least having a smoke filled room will cut down on the fresh air they like and might stunt their growth.:shrug: Colonized myc will fight off contams pretty well so I would say you have just about as good of a chance of getting a contam than anyone else. Set the FC near the window if that is possible without lowering the RH when you have a smoke out.(If it isn't windy)


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Re: Mushroom growing + hotboxed room? [Re: JudgeDJ]
    #14363107 - 04/27/11 07:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Trust me I've thoroughly looked for the Question on the forums, all I seem to find is "Can you smoke mushrooms!?" etc.

That's the reason I've got so little posts all my questions are always already answered. I also don't see the point in commenting useless comments aswell. But I've been here on and off for a year now and want my 10 posts. haha.

Thanks man that makes sense, I wont be smoking for my first grow due to exams but I'll keep that in mind for my next grow!


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Re: Mushroom growing + hotboxed room? [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14363349 - 04/27/11 08:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Mushroom growing + hotboxed room? [Re: BlindBat]
    #14363385 - 04/27/11 08:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I smoke ganja everywhere in the house including near the grows. It won't hurt as long as you dont blow it right on the cakes and have air flow in the room.

Dude above is right about the mushrooms needing air though, you might see more stalled growth if you don't have good ventilation. Keep a window open and blow the smoke outside. I just have a very large basement, and the smoke doesn't seem to bother my grow though.. most likely will be different in my apartment though, so yeah....

and I'm stoned atm, so yeah... maybe that made partial sense... :jah:


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Re: Mushroom growing + hotboxed room? [Re: BlindBat]
    #14363985 - 04/27/11 10:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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smoke is vaporized ashes




I don't think it means you what you think it means.  Smoke isn't a gas, it contains some gases, along with solids and liquids.  And ashes are what's left behind.




The burning of tobacco generates more than 150 billion tar particles(tar ashes) per cubic inch, constituting the visible portion of cigarette smoke. According to chemists at R. J. Reynolds Tobacco Company, cigarette smoke is 10,000 times more concentrated than the automobile pollution at rush hour on a freeway. The lungs of smokers, puffing a daily ration of 20 to 60 low to high tar cigarettes, collect an annual deposit of one-quarter to one and one-half pounds of the gooey black material, amounting to a total of 15 to 90 million pounds of carcinogen-packed tar for the aggregate of current American smokers. Hence, tar is in a cigarette.


But not all of the chemicals in your cigarettes are there for taste enhancement. For example, a chemical very similar to rocket fuel helps keep the tip of the cigarette burning at an extremely hot temperature. This allows the nicotine in tobacco to turn into a vapor so your lungs can absorb it more easily.

Toilet Bowl Cleaner?
Most people prefer to use ammonia for things such as cleaning windows and toilet bowls. You may be surprised to learn that the tobacco industry has found some additional uses for this household product. By adding ammonia to your cigarettes, nicotine in its vapor form can be absorbed through your lungs more quickly. This, in turn, means your brain can get a higher dose of nicotine with each puff.

The complete list of chemicals added to your cigarettes is too long to list here. Here are some examples that will surprise you:

Fungicides and pesticides -- Cause many types of cancers and birth defects.
Cadmium -- Linked to lung and prostate cancer.
Benzene -- Linked to leukemia.
Formaldehyde -- Linked to lung cancer.
Nickel -- Causes increased susceptibility to lung infections.

I smoke weed around my tubs too but I don't smoke cigs in my house I have two kids that don't need to breathe that crap, I really wish I could quit but these cigs are more addictive than crack IMO. I used to smoke crack and I don't feel like asking every crackhead I see for a hit like I do when I don't have a cig, I can smell them from a block away when I try to quit, I have even thought about picking up a strangers discarded cigarette butt before, I almost have a bunch of times but my OCD fear of germs saved me. I will shut up now.:fasted:


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Re: Mushroom growing + hotboxed room? [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14364049 - 04/27/11 10:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Mushroom growing + hotboxed room? [Re: BlindBat]
    #14364244 - 04/27/11 10:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I smoke blunts/bowls, and sometimes even the occasional cig, in my room near my grows and nothing bad has ever happened.  You'll be fine.


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Re: Mushroom growing + hotboxed room? [Re: BlindBat]
    #14364866 - 04/28/11 01:29 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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What does any of that have to do with "smoke is vaporized ashes"?  It's not.  It's a colloidal mix of solids, liquids and gases.  Vapor = gas.  I have no idea how the rest of that came about.




vaporize, vaporise [ˈveɪpəˌraɪz]
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1. (Physics / General Physics) to change or cause to change into vapour or into the gaseous state
2. to evaporate or disappear or cause to evaporate or disappear, esp suddenly
3. (Physics / General Physics) to destroy or be destroyed by being turned into a gas as a result of extreme heat

Why aren't the ashes in smoke part of the vapor, do they turn directly to a solid and fall to the ground? No the ash floats away with the rest of the deadly chemicals, I see what you are saying but when you burn something you change part of it into a gas or vapor. I didn't mean that it was just ash, it is all different types of vaporized ash and other chemicals. When you smoke the end of the cig super heats and delivers vaporized nicotine, tar, and other chemical vapors. This is the last I will say about it, I don't want to argue with you about it. Clouds are gas/vapor
but they have dust and other solids that hold them together. I would consider the microscopic solids that are floating in the air holding the moisture to make the clouds part of the vapor/gas. Just like I consider the vaporized tar/nicotine/ash particles, part of smoke. Which is a vapor, even if they are solids they are part of the smoke which is considered a gas/vapor. But you are also right because ash is a solid, and steam is also a liquid if you look at it microscopically. The ash that makes the smoke color you blow out is so tiny that it dilutes into nothing into the air. I am sure if you lit a cig with a plasma cutter more of the super heated vaporized ash would travel through the filter and not fall on the floor. I will shut up now you win lol


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Re: Mushroom growing + hotboxed room? [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14364905 - 04/28/11 01:47 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Mushroom growing + hotboxed room? [Re: BlindBat]
    #14364933 - 04/28/11 01:55 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Mushroom growing + hotboxed room? [Re: BlindBat]
    #14364952 - 04/28/11 02:06 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You are right, the ashes are microscopic solid particles that are heated so they float away and spread apart so that you can't see the smoke anymore but it is still there just diluted or carried away by the surrounding air. Smoke is a mix of microscopic particles that have been changed from tobacco to a slurry of gases and solids with combustion. The combustion does vaporize some of the ingredients but ashes are a solid. I really meant to say smoke is vaporized chemical gases mixed with ash and other toxic solids.:winner:


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Re: Mushroom growing + hotboxed room? [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14364987 - 04/28/11 02:26 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Mushroom growing + hotboxed room? [Re: BlindBat]
    #14365007 - 04/28/11 02:37 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Smoke is unburnt particles. Solids burn via pyrolisys and liquids through vaporization. Unburned particles settle (yellowing of walls as an example) and increase contamination rates in grow. Don't smoke indoors and life will improve for you and your grows.


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Re: Mushroom growing + hotboxed room? [Re: fngbronco]
    #14365028 - 04/28/11 02:49 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I have heard that a joint has as much tar in it as a whole pack of cigarettes, does this mean I need to start smoking weed somewhere besides my grow room?


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Re: Mushroom growing + hotboxed room? [Re: fngbronco]
    #14365042 - 04/28/11 02:58 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Mushroom growing + hotboxed room? [Re: BlindBat]
    #14365125 - 04/28/11 03:43 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Solids burn as gases as well. Anything that burns as far as I know must be in a gaseous form.

Tar isn't as much a concern as the smoke weakening the fungal organism you're growing. You've got to remember you've got the organism exposed and when the smoke settles on it and the CO2 levels are increased, it weakens it. Just don't smoke indoors, it's nasty.

I smoked 9 years and never understood why people smoke in their own homes.


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Re: Mushroom growing + hotboxed room? [Re: fngbronco]
    #14365143 - 04/28/11 03:55 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I have a 5 year old and a 1 year old I can't smoke inside if I wanted to. I still turn the vent fan on in th B-room and fire up a spliff though. I came back from the store yesterday and it smelled like a skunk died through my whole house. I don't think smoking in a bathroom near the room they are in will hurt, its just weed, I mean its not like I smoke them back to back like people do cigarettes. Plus I hold it in and blow it straight at the B-room vent fan. Smoke is the least of my worries, I am borderline hoarder of electronics, I have soo much crap that it is hard to clean, if they contam I won't be blaming it on the ganja lets just put it that way.


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