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Substrate inquiry
    #14360520 - 04/27/11 10:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I have some jars colonizing, and I'm planning on a monotub.
All I could get is a mixture of coir/perlite.
Would that work as a sub?


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Re: Substrate inquiry [Re: MiNiK]
    #14360737 - 04/27/11 11:48 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

where in the world can you get perlite and no vermiculite.

you should get vermiculite


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Re: Substrate inquiry [Re: MiNiK]
    #14360739 - 04/27/11 11:49 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

the coir will , not the perlite ...


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Re: Substrate inquiry [Re: k00laid]
    #14360750 - 04/27/11 11:52 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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where in the world can you get perlite and no vermiculite.

you should get vermiculite




Lowe's never restocks the damn vermiculite ... used to drive me mad with it ...


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Re: Substrate inquiry [Re: cyantific]
    #14360756 - 04/27/11 11:54 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

you just need to talk to their garden center manager.

there are actual people who work there. sometimes ;p


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Re: Substrate inquiry [Re: k00laid]
    #14361216 - 04/27/11 01:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i got coarse verm from lowes an hour ago


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Re: Substrate inquiry [Re: cyantific]
    #14361235 - 04/27/11 01:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Lowe's never restocks the damn vermiculite ... used to drive me mad with it ...



Yea, same issue here, but only in the off-season. During spring and summer you can find vermiculite at nearly every Lowes/Home Depot in my area. Fall and winter its nowhere to be found. No problem ever finding perlite though. :shrug:

OP, you can just use straight coir if you want. I wouldn't add perlite though. Shop around though, you're bound to find vermiculite somewhere.


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Re: Substrate inquiry [Re: Boozie]
    #14365451 - 04/28/11 07:05 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

No dudes, I do have verm. I am gonna use it also.
But the only coir I could find was mixed with perlite, so my question is, is it o.k. to use it as a substrate?

I couldn't find any clean coir, so if the perlite is a nuisance, all I could do is pick it out by somehow..


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Re: Substrate inquiry [Re: MiNiK]
    #14365602 - 04/28/11 07:42 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

That would be usable... what part of the world are you in?


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Re: Substrate inquiry [Re: MiNiK]
    #14365628 - 04/28/11 07:47 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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MiNiK said:
No dudes, I do have verm. I am gonna use it also.
But the only coir I could find was mixed with perlite, so my question is, is it o.k. to use it as a substrate?

I couldn't find any clean coir, so if the perlite is a nuisance, all I could do is pick it out by somehow..





no do not use this i garentee its laced with tricchoderma got to the pet store and buy a brick of coir


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Re: Substrate inquiry [Re: punkrocker292004]
    #14366646 - 04/28/11 12:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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That would be usable... what part of the world are you in?




Middle East.

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MiNiK said:
the ONLY coir I could find





no do not use this i garentee its laced with tricchoderma got to the pet store and buy a brick of coir




Why do you think so? What about the perlite you use for humidity in your FC? What's the difference between the two?

And I am gonna pasteurize it before use..


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Re: Substrate inquiry [Re: MiNiK]
    #14366697 - 04/28/11 12:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

No mixture of coco-coir and pearlite is necessary. If you're coco-coir is at perfect field capacity you should have plenty of moisture. I just recommend you use straight coco-coir and no additives.


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Re: Substrate inquiry [Re: ronjohn7779]
    #14366834 - 04/28/11 01:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

coco mixed with perlite is intended for potting soil as a replacement for peat moss. It sometimes is fortified with trich. Coir fortified with trich can be nasty even after pasteurization. That's why you should be hesitant to use it.


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Re: Substrate inquiry [Re: ronjohn7779]
    #14368487 - 04/28/11 06:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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No mixture of coco-coir and pearlite is necessary. If you're coco-coir is at perfect field capacity you should have plenty of moisture. I just recommend you use straight coco-coir and no additives.





I guess I wasn't very clear..
I didn't do it on purpose. That's how I bought it. Coir mixed with perlite. Because it's the only thing I could find.

Well since I couldn't really get an unequivocal answer I'll try it anyway because my jars are consolidating and I won't be able to find anything else anytime soon.
Thanks anyway.


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Re: Substrate inquiry [Re: MiNiK]
    #14368577 - 04/28/11 06:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Just check the package to see if it's trich-enriched/fortified. It would say.


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Re: Substrate inquiry [Re: anonjon]
    #14368610 - 04/28/11 06:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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coco mixed with perlite is intended for potting soil as a replacement for peat moss. It sometimes is fortified with trich. Coir fortified with trich can be nasty even after pasteurization. That's why you should be hesitant to use it.


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Re: Substrate inquiry [Re: anonjon]
    #14368724 - 04/28/11 06:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Just check the package to see if it's trich-enriched/fortified. It would say.




Haha. Thanks bra. :-).

O.K, but has anyone tried it before and failed, or is it in theory that it won't work?

Please be serious for a sec..


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Re: Substrate inquiry [Re: MiNiK]
    #14368766 - 04/28/11 06:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

many a noob has put perlite in their sub. It won't hurt in the least. It's inert.


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