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how should i colonize this mini straw basket?
    #14360419 - 04/27/11 10:23 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i made a mini straw basket using a net pot from a hydroponic garden store.. i pasteurized the straw at 160-170 for an hour and a half..after if cooled, i layered the straw and colonized grain very well..maybe 8-10 layers..The straw was chopped into small pieces before pasteurization.. Ive read that the more fresh air you give it, less chance of contams.. so, i dont know if i should colonize this basket in a small rubbermaid container with tiny holes everywhere"with wet perlite at the bottom", or is there a way to fuit this outside ?  i just know straw can contaminate fairly easy, and i dont want thrich in my grow area..so, im kind curious to see whats the best way to colonize this without having high chances of contamination?


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Re: how should i colonize this mini straw basket? [Re: kingpsilo281]
    #14360437 - 04/27/11 10:28 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

definitely do not put wet perlite or any perlite at the bottom, it will burst out in contams. the straw should have been hydrated a bit before pasteurizing, and if that is the case, you need not worry about giving it more water aside from misting it just as you would a tub.
good luck, and good idea with the net basket!


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Re: how should i colonize this mini straw basket? [Re: floatindownsligo]
    #14360510 - 04/27/11 10:47 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

should i colonize this thing out in the open and mist it daily to avoid co2 build up? or is it ok to colonize it in a tub like RR did on his video on making straw baskets? i saw holes on the top of the lid for gas exchange, but thats it.. so, would it be fine if i colonized the straw the same way he did?


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Re: how should i colonize this mini straw basket? [Re: kingpsilo281]
    #14360547 - 04/27/11 10:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Generally, doing anything the same way RR does it will work. :wink:


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Re: how should i colonize this mini straw basket? [Re: shadowman-x]
    #14360567 - 04/27/11 11:04 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yea, but theres details that arent explained in the short video we have access to.. ive done a straw log in a bag before, and got no contam till after the first flush..but this tek is quite different..
  RR, please help if possible..i know your the man with the plan when it comes to straw baskets..


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Re: how should i colonize this mini straw basket? [Re: kingpsilo281]
    #14361232 - 04/27/11 01:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

no u can not colonize it in the open. you need to coupe it up in high c02 / humidity just like nething else.

But a good deal of GE is beneficial.

I have one going right now if u want to compare notes. And I have that giant one in my sig that I did.


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Re: how should i colonize this mini straw basket? [Re: anonjon]
    #14361324 - 04/27/11 02:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yea, if you dont mind, id like to see exactly what you do.. i just got confused cause i read some guys post, and he was saying to colonize it in open air, which sounded odd to me..but his results were awesome.. so, i was wondering if it was something i hadnt heard about..but yea, i can see what you mean,,the co2 is neccessary for colonization..I just ended up making a hole in a shady spot in the backyard a burried the straw,spawn and horse poo in layers..and covered it with more straw..followed by a bit of mulch to hid it from the naked eye..:super:
  i watered it pretty well..and ill continue to water it every other day, till i see fruits.. i just didnt get an answer in time, and i was in a rush to get to other projects i gotta finish..but next time, ill know what to do, if you could message me the notes you mentioned on small laundry baskets..


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Re: how should i colonize this mini straw basket? [Re: kingpsilo281]
    #14361489 - 04/27/11 02:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

he musta been growing outdoors. There's a huge difference.

It's not easy to fruit a straw basket indoors because you have to make a fruiting chamber that can accomodate it.

Right now I have a small basket colonizing inside a regular shotgun fruiting chamber tub (no perlite). Then I've got that entire shotgun fc inside a trash bag for colonization. the trash bag is stuffed with a wad of polyfill in the opening with a zip tie around it. This is for gas exchange during colonization. You could also snip the corners off the bag for a little ge, but fungus gnats like to invade straw pretty quick.

So after 2 weeks (which is in a few days for me btw) I'll open it up and add some wet perlite or geolite to the chamber. I'll also add a double fishpump for fresh humid air. With the basket being fairly large I can't get 4 inches of perlite in there, so I'll probably just do a base layer of geolite and mist frequently.

Basically you're just fruiting a giant straw cake inside some sort of fruiting chamber.

I have not opened mine up to look yet. It could be a giant ball of trich for all I know. I have mixed luck with straw.


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Re: how should i colonize this mini straw basket? [Re: anonjon]
    #14361752 - 04/27/11 03:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

o, ok.. i see, anonjon..  thats not a bad idea with the bag and the polyfil.. and i actually had my straw basket in a sgfc with no perlite, but wasnt sure if it was a good idea..so, i just went ahead and made that outdoor patch with it, adding horse poo and mgmc,,i think i have a better chance at getting that to fruit, rather than have success with the straw..idk? i cant afford a trich outbreak..
      ive been mainly focusing on mono tubs..ive only got 2 right now, but ive got plenty of quart,pint,and 1/2 pint jars about to be 100%.. and i just prepared 16 jar lids for another 16 quart jars, thatll soon be filled with grain..ive got 4 -30quart tubs and 4 -56 quart tubs,, so, im trying to get enough spawn to get all of them goin.. im using a clone and also a isolated clone of gt.. so, im hopeing for the best results on this horse poo substrate..ive got 2 mini mono's that are at the point of knotting-up..no casing,, I put it into fruiting as soon as it was fully colonized, but NOT matted with mycelium..facey gave me the suggestion..He said if i put it into fruiting before the consolidation period, that i could have great results.. so, i trusted his word on it, and its been in fruiting for 4 days now.. and i think i see tiny,tiny, knots.. but, could just be my high hopes. :stoned: since im a noob at the craft, ive gotta do so much observation, just so i can know whats goin on at all times, and fix my mistakes.. once i get it down, itll be alot easier.. You got any tips on mono tubs or dub tubs?


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Re: how should i colonize this mini straw basket? [Re: kingpsilo281]
    #14361821 - 04/27/11 03:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yeah, go read prof P's monotub stuff at the IRF tek page. Good reading.


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Re: how should i colonize this mini straw basket? [Re: anonjon]
    #14364780 - 04/28/11 12:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yea sorry i meant to add i would probably have it in a tub. co2 essential.


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Re: how should i colonize this mini straw basket? [Re: anonjon]
    #14385903 - 05/01/11 10:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

double post...sorry.


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Re: how should i colonize this mini straw basket? [Re: kingpsilo281]
    #14386033 - 05/01/11 11:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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o, ok.. i see, anonjon..  thats not a bad idea with the bag and the polyfil.. and i actually had my straw basket in a sgfc with no perlite, but wasnt sure if it was a good idea..so, i just went ahead and made that outdoor patch with it, adding horse poo and mgmc,,i think i have a better chance at getting that to fruit, rather than have success with the straw..idk? i cant afford a trich outbreak..
      ive been mainly focusing on mono tubs..ive only got 2 right now, but ive got plenty of quart,pint,and 1/2 pint jars about to be 100%.. and i just prepared 16 jar lids for another 16 quart jars, thatll soon be filled with grain..ive got 4 -30quart tubs and 4 -56 quart tubs,, so, im trying to get enough spawn to get all of them goin.. im using a clone and also a isolated clone of gt.. so, im hopeing for the best results on this horse poo substrate..ive got 2 mini mono's that are at the point of knotting-up..no casing,, I put it into fruiting as soon as it was fully colonized, but NOT matted with mycelium..facey gave me the suggestion..He said if i put it into fruiting before the consolidation period, that i could have great results.. so, i trusted his word on it, and its been in fruiting for 4 days now.. and i think i see tiny,tiny, knots.. but, could just be my high hopes. :stoned: since im a noob at the craft, ive gotta do so much observation, just so i can know whats goin on at all times, and fix my mistakes.. once i get it down, itll be alot easier.. You got any tips on mono tubs or dub tubs?




nice isolated clone of GT, that was my print that i sent you.

care to explain why you blocked me after i sent you my prints?


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Re: how should i colonize this mini straw basket? [Re: kingpsilo281]
    #14424889 - 05/09/11 02:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

My basket is fruiting nicely. How's your's coming?


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Re: how should i colonize this mini straw basket? [Re: anonjon]
    #14427562 - 05/09/11 11:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I ended up using the straw for an outdoor bed thats actually doing well,, im waiting for it to fruit..  but, ive got 3 mini mono's goin that are about to pin any day now..  i made some glc for the first time and knocked up some jars of wbs last night..lets see if it works this time..lol:shrug:
  im thinking about making a couple sgfc's for my tubs, to see if they fruit better in there than in the mono tub its self..i was having trouble keeping humidity up in my tubs, but now that im using tyvek over the holes rather than stuffed with poly, its doin alot better..but, im gonna see how it fruits this time around..

howare you fruiting your straw basket, in a sgfc or greenhouse?


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