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 Invader-Zim
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 Canberra ID Request, Psilocybe Subaeruginosa? 
#14360178 - 04/27/11 09:19 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey guys, first time attempting an ID, just wanted to make sure these are P. Subs as I understand their look can vary quite a bit, Any help would be greatly appreciated
Sorry if the pictures aren't great.
Habitat:
Found in woods in canberra, damp, growing from soil, around dead and living wood/trees.
Gills:
Creamy Brown to dark brown gills, seperate
Stem:
20-50mm lengh, approx 5mm diameter, creamy brown colour, solid,
Cap:
15-50mm diamater, Creamy light brown, spherical, convex
Diameter, color, texture, conical/spherical, convex/concave, etc.
Spore print color:
N/A Too Dry
Bruising:
Blueish bruising
Other information:
Damp earthy smell
    
    
Thanks Guys
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 Ieponumos
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Re: Canberra ID Request, Psilocybe Subaeruginosa? [Re: Invader-Zim]
#14360183 - 04/27/11 09:20 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Looks like it to me.
Wait for TI though.
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Invader-Zim
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Re: Canberra ID Request, Psilocybe Subaeruginosa? [Re: Ieponumos]
#14360185 - 04/27/11 09:22 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cheers,
Will do
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wow
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Re: Canberra ID Request, Psilocybe Subaeruginosa? [Re: Ieponumos]
#14360194 - 04/27/11 09:24 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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looks like it bruises too heavy to be a sub... maybe a ovoid? as far as i know subs grow in grass and have a margin.. those look too big also.. I wouldnt eat em unless the bruising is definitely for sure blue or it leaves a JET BLACK print.. its just not worth it really man what state/country or part of the country are you in?
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Invader-Zim
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Re: Canberra ID Request, Psilocybe Subaeruginosa? [Re: wow]
#14360208 - 04/27/11 09:29 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Canberra, Australia, It is in southern New South Wales Area, bruising is definately blue
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psylosymonreturns
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Re: Canberra ID Request, Psilocybe Subaeruginosa? [Re: Invader-Zim]
#14360210 - 04/27/11 09:29 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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beauties man, they look good to me . looks like they are blueing quite strong, if any are not blueing and look suspect, chuck em.
also put those stems butts onto cardboard.no point in wasteing nice mycelium.
and contrary to the above post, all Psilocybes have dark purplish brown spores.not black. so take prints, its a good habit.
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vjp
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Re: Canberra ID Request, Psilocybe Subaeruginosa? [Re: wow]
#14360213 - 04/27/11 09:29 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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subs 
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elprawn
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Re: Canberra ID Request, Psilocybe Subaeruginosa? [Re: Invader-Zim]
#14360217 - 04/27/11 09:30 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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wow
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Quote:
psylosymonreturns said:
beauties man, they look good to me . looks like they are blueing quite strong, if any are not blueing and look suspect, chuck em.
also put those stems butts onto cardboard.no point in wasteing nice mycelium.
and contrary to the above post, all Psilocybes have dark purplish brown spores.not black. so take prints, its a good habit.
subs have a JET BLACK PRINT bro.. just sayin.. if its an ovoid its a psylocybe and will have tha usual purp/brown print.. and its no use cultivating a sub really unless you just want a project.. cultivate a cube.. its much easier and much more documented.. LOL PSYLO you have LOTSA reading to do  !
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Invader-Zim
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Re: Canberra ID Request, Psilocybe Subaeruginosa? [Re: Invader-Zim]
#14360229 - 04/27/11 09:34 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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I checked closely, all of them look the same specias and have signs of blueing on cap or stem,.
What's the longest you can wait before doing a spore print?
What do I do with the mycelium? I made sure not to pull most of them out of the ground but some were hard to get to, (under logs) etc.
Thanks for your knowledge guys
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psylosymonreturns
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Re: Canberra ID Request, Psilocybe Subaeruginosa? [Re: wow] 1
#14360249 - 04/27/11 09:39 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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wow said:
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psylosymonreturns said:
beauties man, they look good to me . looks like they are blueing quite strong, if any are not blueing and look suspect, chuck em.
also put those stems butts onto cardboard.no point in wasteing nice mycelium.
and contrary to the above post, all Psilocybes have dark purplish brown spores.not black. so take prints, its a good habit.
subs have a JET BLACK PRINT bro.. just sayin.. if its an ovoid its a psylocybe and will have tha usual purp/brown print.. and its no use cultivating a sub really unless you just want a project.. cultivate a cube.. its much easier and much more documented.. LOL PSYLO you have LOTSA reading to do !
wtf are you talking about, like Panaeolous subbalteatus as in "subbs" which have jet black prints and wouldnt bruise this much or fucking Psilocybe subaeruginosa which is "subs" . which like every other Psilocybe has purple brown spores. a key feauture to the damb genus.
oh and ovoids which are not a ozzy mushroom have a friggin annulus which these dont.
you need to read.
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Edited by psylosymonreturns (04/27/11 09:41 AM)
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wow
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Re: Canberra ID Request, Psilocybe Subaeruginosa? [Re: vjp]
#14360264 - 04/27/11 09:43 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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vjp said:
subs
u sure mang? look like psilocybe ovoideocystidiata to me im no "TI" but ive found subs before and they didnt look like that at all...
ovoids look like this and grow from wood/soil:
pan subs i found myself and have a way golder cap:
others on the net:
 https://files.shroomery.org/files/10-37/492728305-pan_sub_002-72.jpg
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vjp
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Re: Canberra ID Request, Psilocybe Subaeruginosa? [Re: wow]
#14360277 - 04/27/11 09:46 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Psilocybe subaeruginosa - as suggested in the thread name. You are confusing subs (Psilocybe subaeruginosa) with subbs (Panaeolus subbalteatus)
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psylosymonreturns
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Re: Canberra ID Request, Psilocybe Subaeruginosa? [Re: wow]
#14360278 - 04/27/11 09:46 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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show me an ovoid that grows naturally in australia .
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wow
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psylosymonreturns said:
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wow said:
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psylosymonreturns said:
beauties man, they look good to me . looks like they are blueing quite strong, if any are not blueing and look suspect, chuck em.
also put those stems butts onto cardboard.no point in wasteing nice mycelium.
and contrary to the above post, all Psilocybes have dark purplish brown spores.not black. so take prints, its a good habit.
subs have a JET BLACK PRINT bro.. just sayin.. if its an ovoid its a psylocybe and will have tha usual purp/brown print.. and its no use cultivating a sub really unless you just want a project.. cultivate a cube.. its much easier and much more documented.. LOL PSYLO you have LOTSA reading to do !
wtf are you talking about, like Panaeolous subbalteatus as in "subbs" which have jet black prints and wouldnt bruise this much or fucking Psilocybe subaeruginosa which is "subs" . which like every other Psilocybe has purple brown spores. a key feauture to the damb genus.
oh and ovoids which are not a ozzy mushroom have a friggin annulus which these dont.
you need to read.
oh god.. i thought we were talking about panealous subbalteatus ... the "weed" mushroom.... they dont even bruise that blue at all... my bad man for the confusion! i saw the word "subbs" and i swiched into that mode..
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psylosymonreturns
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Re: Canberra ID Request, Psilocybe Subaeruginosa? [Re: wow]
#14360292 - 04/27/11 09:49 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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oh ok man, i thought you were totally full of it. remember the slang is different, theres subbalteatus which is subbs , subaeruginosa which is subs and subaeruginascens which is rugs.
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Invader-Zim
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Re: Canberra ID Request, Psilocybe Subaeruginosa? [Re: wow]
#14360297 - 04/27/11 09:49 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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wow said:
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psylosymonreturns said:
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wow said:
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psylosymonreturns said:
beauties man, they look good to me . looks like they are blueing quite strong, if any are not blueing and look suspect, chuck em.
also put those stems butts onto cardboard.no point in wasteing nice mycelium.
and contrary to the above post, all Psilocybes have dark purplish brown spores.not black. so take prints, its a good habit.
subs have a JET BLACK PRINT bro.. just sayin.. if its an ovoid its a psylocybe and will have tha usual purp/brown print.. and its no use cultivating a sub really unless you just want a project.. cultivate a cube.. its much easier and much more documented.. LOL PSYLO you have LOTSA reading to do !
wtf are you talking about, like Panaeolous subbalteatus as in "subbs" which have jet black prints and wouldnt bruise this much or fucking Psilocybe subaeruginosa which is "subs" . which like every other Psilocybe has purple brown spores. a key feauture to the damb genus.
oh and ovoids which are not a ozzy mushroom have a friggin annulus which these dont.
you need to read.
oh god.. i thought we were talking about panealous subbalteatus ... the "weed" mushroom.... they dont even bruise that blue at all... my bad man for the confusion! i saw the word "subbs" and i swiched into that mode..
I understand this happens quite a bit lol
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Invader-Zim
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Re: Canberra ID Request, Psilocybe Subaeruginosa? [Re: Invader-Zim]
#14360300 - 04/27/11 09:50 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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So does a spore print really need to be taken the same day as picking?
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psylosymonreturns
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Re: Canberra ID Request, Psilocybe Subaeruginosa? [Re: Invader-Zim]
#14360301 - 04/27/11 09:51 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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ya printing fresh mushrooms is key.
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Invader-Zim
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psylosymonreturns said:
ya printing fresh mushrooms is key.
Yea, These ones have been in the fridge in a paper bag for about 2 days, next time i'll be sure to take a spore print straight away
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