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Vibration
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Re: My 5L pressure cooker and my failure of WBS [Re: Doc_T]
#14365561 - 04/28/11 07:33 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I know how a healthy colonized wbs jar smells, but should I feel a difference if there is a bacterial infection?
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Re: My 5L pressure cooker and my failure of WBS [Re: Vibration]
#14365568 - 04/28/11 07:36 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Not necessarily. Why take chances? Why half-ass things? Wouldn't it be nice to succeed at growing mushrooms?
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Re: My 5L pressure cooker and my failure of WBS [Re: Vibration]
#14365572 - 04/28/11 07:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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dont soak wbs just clean boil and lay out on news paper for 4 hours or so works for me everytime and my contamn rate is allmost non existent
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Re: My 5L pressure cooker and my failure of WBS [Re: Vibration]
#14365577 - 04/28/11 07:38 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Vibration said: I know how a healthy colonized wbs jar smells, but should I feel a difference if there is a bacterial infection?
smells like mushrooms
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Re: My 5L pressure cooker and my failure of WBS [Re: punkrocker292004]
#14365590 - 04/28/11 07:40 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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punkrocker292004 said: dont soak wbs
I'm sure it works for you- but the BEST advice with wbs is to soak, simmer, strain. It gives the best results.
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Re: My 5L pressure cooker and my failure of WBS [Re: Doc_T]
#14365608 - 04/28/11 07:43 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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punkrocker292004 said: dont soak wbs
I'm sure it works for you- but the BEST advice with wbs is to soak, simmer, strain. It gives the best results.
idk man i think its alot harder to get the moisture right if you soak it, cause most of the grains are millet which hydraates really easily
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Re: My 5L pressure cooker and my failure of WBS [Re: Doc_T]
#14365626 - 04/28/11 07:47 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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It feels awful to half-ass to be honest. But I will have to take a chance at some option which would possibly take me a step forward. Time is the enemy to me at this point. I promised myself to move to AGAR after my second grow.
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Re: My 5L pressure cooker and my failure of WBS [Re: Vibration]
#14365632 - 04/28/11 07:48 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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You wouldnt even need to do a gtg you could do a myc strand growing to the lid to grain lol.
If you feel froggy jump! That is if you feel like PCing grain and doing a xfer then the only negative that could come from it is that it doesn't work. If it was a type of mush that I didn't have any more of I would definitely GTG it to two or three new grain jars to give myself better odds on it working and getting to keep the strain without ordering more spores.
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Re: My 5L pressure cooker and my failure of WBS [Re: punkrocker292004]
#14365655 - 04/28/11 07:53 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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punkrocker292004 said: idk man
Agreed, you don't know. It's not hard to prep grain correctly. Leaving out steps because you are too inattentive to do the job well isn't a tek. It's just lazy, and not in a helpful way.
Again, I'm sure your grain prep works. There's lots and lots of ways to prep grain. But you will get the BEST results with a three step soak, simmer strain.
I personally think RP's problem is the inoculant- but good grain helps you track that down.
Oh, and don't try to simmer by time, that's not ideal- simmer just until the grain is cooked al dente.
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Time is the enemy to me at this point. I promised myself to move to AGAR after my second grow. 
Start with LC, then move to agar. Because it feels so good to fail first.
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Re: My 5L pressure cooker and my failure of WBS [Re: Doc_T]
#14365680 - 04/28/11 07:58 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Doc_T said:
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punkrocker292004 said: idk man
Agreed, you don't know. It's not hard to prep grain correctly. Leaving out steps because you are too inattentive to do the job well isn't a tek. It's just lazy, and not in a helpful way.
Again, I'm sure your grain prep works. There's lots and lots of ways to prep grain. But you will get the BEST results with a three step soak, simmer strain.
I personally think RP's problem is the inoculant- but good grain helps you track that down.
Oh, and don't try to simmer by time, that's not ideal- simmer just until the grain is cooked al dente.
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Time is the enemy to me at this point. I promised myself to move to AGAR after my second grow. 
Start with LC, then move to agar. Because it feels so good to fail first. 
you have always been such an ignorant bastard doc way to take my post out of context asshole
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Re: My 5L pressure cooker and my failure of WBS [Re: Vibration]
#14365717 - 04/28/11 08:16 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's just his way of expressing love 
I'm going to shoot half of the jars by Grain LC tek and the other half with my LC. I can't abondon them, yet. I'm sure some of you would like to see if I failed again with my 14 jars of wbs cooking one by one 90 min or not, so I'm going update this thread soon
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Re: My 5L pressure cooker and my failure of WBS [Re: Vibration]
#14365739 - 04/28/11 08:22 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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i wanna see you succeed i love sein grows
as far as showin the love id have to disagree but im not gonna flame his as on yer thread ill flame his ass on my own thread lol if yer really worried about failur just re do um its only two days and a few bux maybe you need a better lid i suggest a rtv/pollyfill/tyvek lid if you need scimatics let me know
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Re: My 5L pressure cooker and my failure of WBS [Re: Doc_T]
#14365902 - 04/28/11 09:19 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: Looks suspicious. Maybe ok, but looks a bit bacterial to me.
Doc: Where do you see "suspicious " in these jars? First time with WBS. myself and they look perfect to me.
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Re: My 5L pressure cooker and my failure of WBS [Re: Vibration]
#14367720 - 04/28/11 03:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Vibration said: Thank you very much, enigma. Look, this is my 3 months old wild bird seed jar. Does it seem healthy? There are some weird spots, but it seems like a thick mycelium to me though.
I think I will need to tranfer some grain from that jar to another jar in a glovebox and with a spoon.. cos that particular jar is too full and mycelium is too thick in my opinion. Do you agree?
I will start with the process right away when I get 1 reply regarding this matter 





lol i wish i would have looked at these they are starting to pin invitro that is all nothing to worry about no bacteria
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Re: My 5L pressure cooker and my failure of WBS [Re: punkrocker292004]
#14444000 - 05/13/11 06:43 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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punkrocker292004 said: maybe you need a better lid i suggest a rtv/pollyfill/tyvek lid if you need scimatics let me know
By the way, I have silicon self-healing injection holes.
.. and it worked really well doing Grain LC tek. All 12 jars got nice growth inside, 100% success rate.
Now I'm going to make 3 monotubs.
I guess my biggest mistake previous time (when all the jars failed to get growth) was: 1) I soaked for too long 2) I pressure cooked for only 60 minutes with my little pressure cooker which probably didn't reach 15 psi
So don't repeat my mistakes is the best thing I can say.
 
Few days more and they're good. Here was my update.
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