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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: g00ru]
    #14352135 - 04/25/11 10:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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no, it's keeping your mind totally open.  not thinking anything at all. neither accepting nor denying, and just allowing the words to find their place in your being.



You're accepting and denying a lot more than me.


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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14352141 - 04/25/11 10:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I think some people are just really freaked out at the prospect of unconditionally surrendering their mind to the influence of another being.  It's like letting yourself get mind fucked.




Like Jim Jones?




:rofl2:


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It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: Poid]
    #14352149 - 04/25/11 10:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: NetDiver]
    #14352159 - 04/25/11 10:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Well yeah, that too. :smirk:


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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: NetDiver]
    #14357110 - 04/26/11 07:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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no, it's keeping your mind totally open.  not thinking anything at all. neither accepting nor denying, and just allowing the words to find their place in your being.



You're accepting and denying a lot more than me.




well, i've been interested in spirituality for a few years now.  Sometimes I think I project my own quest for enlightenment onto others.  A few years back I started to actively search for the root of my anxiety through any and all means possible.  It doesn't really feel like a choice; i was totally debilitated, physically as well as mentally, I really feel like the universe pushed me towards spirituality.  My point is that, a few years back, you probably would have related to my perspectives much more, before I started picking up ideas about the afterlife and enlightened beings and whatnot.


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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: g00ru]
    #14357126 - 04/26/11 07:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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guruu said:
no, it's keeping your mind totally open.  not thinking anything at all. neither accepting nor denying, and just allowing the words to find their place in your being.



You're accepting and denying a lot more than me.




well, i've been interested in spirituality for a few years now.  Sometimes I think I project my own quest for enlightenment onto others.  A few years back I started to actively search for the root of my anxiety through any and all means possible.  It doesn't really feel like a choice; i was totally debilitated, physically as well as mentally, I really feel like the universe pushed me towards spirituality.  My point is that, a few years back, you probably would have related to my perspectives much more, before I started picking up ideas about the afterlife and enlightened beings and whatnot.




It sounds like your evolution of thought has changed not through logical deduction, but through emotional responses.

It's a very easy thing to do, I did it for about a year.


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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: 4896744]
    #14357139 - 04/26/11 07:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

it might sound like that.  But i've been logical through truly fucked up mind bending psychedelic experiences, and maintained a rational worldview (all that occurred even further in the past).  My current views are after experiences of an entirely different nature.  I've learned to truly transcend my emotions and not let them color my thought. Especially as of late what with my heart being broken by a beautiful girl and all :sad::lol:  You don't have to believe me, but I know it's true.


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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: g00ru]
    #14357167 - 04/26/11 07:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

To be honest, you seem like a pretty intelligent person so I wouldn't be surprised if you change your mind on these things in a few years. This seems to be fairly common with relatively young people who adopt a similar outlook to yours.


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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: 4896744]
    #14357176 - 04/26/11 07:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i'm sure my beliefs will evolve and change over the years, i won't argue with that.


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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: g00ru] * 1
    #14358237 - 04/26/11 10:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I really feel like the universe pushed me towards spirituality




WTF does that mean? Yesterday a pedestrian was killed. Did the Universe push him in front of the oncoming car?

At least you once again failed to answer my earlier questions. Why is that? This is a pattern in most threads that you 'participate' in. For a TruthSeeker, you sure do duck and obsfucate to the max.


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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14358262 - 04/26/11 10:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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WTF does that mean? Yesterday a pedesetrian was killed. Did the Universe push in front of the oncoming car?



Well... yeah, sorta. Using the laws of physics and whatnot.


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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14358664 - 04/26/11 11:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I really feel like the universe pushed me towards spirituality




WTF does that mean? Yesterday a pedestrian was killed. Did the Universe push him in front of the oncoming car?

At least you once again failed to answer my earlier questions. Why is that? This is a pattern in most threads that you 'participate' in. For a TruthSeeker, you sure do duck and obsfucate to the max.




:shrug: can't respond to everybody; i tend to engage people who are going to make me think in new and interesting ways


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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: g00ru]
    #14358869 - 04/26/11 11:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I'll start!

SPIRITUAL PEOPLE ARE A BUNCH OF FUCKING MORONS. THEY HAVE THESE EXPERIENCES WHICH ARE NO DOUBT CAUSE BY TOO MANY ACIDS AND INSTEAD OF ANALYZING THEM IN SUPER XXHARCOREXXSCIENCE@@!XX MODE THEY JUST GO AROUND ENJOYING LIFE LIKE A BUNCH OF LOOOOOOSERS! UNDOUBTEDLY FOR THESE PEOPLE FANTASY AND REALITY HAS BECOMING INTERTWINED IN SUCH A WAY AS TO MAKE ****objective*****REALITY IMPOSSIBLE TO ARGUE ABOUT SO FUCK THEM ANYWAYS I'M GONNA GO MASTURBATE

moderators, please don't ban this as I think it has valuable philosophical content




Didn't you know that absolutely all secrets of the entire universe are unveiled in the hallowed Scientific Journals, which continue to be published regularly?


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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14358902 - 04/27/11 12:02 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

And let no one correct the everlasting truths of Science consecrated to us in such perfect, falsifiable fashion as in the Scientific Journals!


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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14358930 - 04/27/11 12:07 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Your straw man argument seems devoid of any substance or criticism of science on its merits.  What other method do you advance for resolving these questions of the universe and how does it fair better under the same analysis for which you've applied to scientific inquiry?  If you cannot suggest a substitute or even a useful tool, then it seems your criticism is pointless- all the more so because nobody would claim what is in a journal is neccesarily true.  Journals are just a way to share information and thoughts.  Much of them are self-identified as speculation or presumption.  How you can suggest anyone considers such speculation, for example, to be presented as if it were the truth, even exclusive source of truth, is difficult to understand.

I think you're just arguing against a made up position that has nothing to do with the merits of the methodology you criticize, but was rather picked for convieniance.

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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: johnm214]
    #14358956 - 04/27/11 12:12 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Well, spiritual people are definitely morons for thinking that the human mind requires some sense of unfalsifiable truth for making constructive moment-to-moment decisions, EVEN IF they recognize the fallibility of their own sense of unfalsifiable truth and are willing to revise it in such capacities as science makes possible.


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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #14358964 - 04/27/11 12:13 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm still not sure how a "spiritual person" differs from a normal garden variety person. As far as I can tell it's just a term people apply to themselves to feel like they have the right to preach and condescend to everyone else. :shrug:


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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: NetDiver]
    #14358976 - 04/27/11 12:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

'Round these parts the term "spiritual person" seems pretty appropriate to refer to anybody who feels comfortable speaking in terms of unfalsifiable truths, and we just don't cotton to that sort of individual certitude.


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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14359026 - 04/27/11 12:29 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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unfalsifiable truths



Say what


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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: NetDiver]
    #14359037 - 04/27/11 12:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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unfalsifiable truths



Say what




You know what I'm talking about - all that moronic drivel that helps us to justify our existence to ourselves and to others. Total nonsense.


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