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Oneiroi
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Advice for trip: Shrooms or acid for nature
#14358295 - 04/26/11 10:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hello there. SWIM is looking for advice from more experienced users for a trip he is planning for. In a few months SWIM will be returning home, where he lives next to a mountain. While he has never tripped there before, he imagines it would be a great place to trip, considering it has an amazing 360 view and there are no people living on it. The hike to the top is only 2 hours and is not very strenuous, having hiked it several times before. SWIM plans to eat what is a moderate dose for him, either 1-2 tabs of acid or half 1/8 of shrooms and head up the mountain during the middle of the night. He has done one solo acid trip before, but never on shrooms (SWIM quite enjoys solitude though and found his solo trip quite enjoyable). He wants to enjoy the scenery, look at stars, contemplate his life, and watch the sunrise. SWIM loves the introspective aspect of psychedelics and is looking forward to this opportunity.
SWIM has access to both shrooms and acid. While SWIM is moderately experienced with both (~6 trips on shrooms, 2 trips on acid), he prefers acid trips and finds them more pleasant and controllable, while for shrooms, he has had several difficult trips that he had to ride out (though does enjoy them). However, SWIM feels that acid's trip length may be too long for this trip. SWIM has not had much experience with acid and nature and would like your input. Which drug you would suggest for SWIM's night time hike up a mountain?
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Edited by Oneiroi (04/26/11 10:33 PM)
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Re: Advice for trip: Shrooms or acid for nature [Re: Oneiroi]
#14358373 - 04/26/11 10:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Welcome, lsd has my vote. To each his own though, either way. Enjoy & cherish
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Re: Advice for trip: Shrooms or acid for nature [Re: Oneiroi]
#14358384 - 04/26/11 10:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mushrooms give you a very strong connection with mother earth as she created them. They also induce nausea sometimes, which would be awful for a hike.
Acid would also be great because of the body high and less mindfucky.
Personally, I'd mix em
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Re: Advice for trip: Shrooms or acid for nature [Re: Oneiroi]
#14358388 - 04/26/11 10:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well it depends. If you are going up there to think deep thought and ponder the mysteries of the universe than I think shrooms would be better for this task.
On shrooms I always feel very connected to nature, one with it. Very spiritual indeed.
On the other hand with acid I tend to feel awestricken by everything. I really enjoy where I am and what I'm doing and do far less thinking and contemplating.
I'd probably lean more towards shrooms. It should give you a nice deep experience and not last too long.
Of course if this were a daytime hike I'd suggest acid. Acid was made for sunlight
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Re: Advice for trip: Shrooms or acid for nature [Re: Dawks]
#14358401 - 04/26/11 10:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Advice for trip: Shrooms or acid for nature [Re: Dawks]
#14358413 - 04/26/11 10:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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i would say acid because it is night, and to me acid is a great night time trip. but in general shrooms are better with nature solo tripping.
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iamnotadream
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Re: Advice for trip: Shrooms or acid for nature [Re: Oneiroi]
#14358420 - 04/26/11 10:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Depends on what you want out of the trip.
If you want to see - LSD
If you want to feel - Mushrooms.
Mushrooms give you a more empathetic connection towards nature which often leads (IME) to a more profound experience. The colors are prettier too. Acid does this to a lesser degree, and focuses more on the visual aspect of the trip. If you want to run around in ecstasy while watching the trees change color, take Acid. If you want to sit around marveling at nature with your chin resting on your fist, take Mushrooms.
Or you could take both.
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Re: Advice for trip: Shrooms or acid for nature [Re: iamnotadream]
#14358555 - 04/26/11 10:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Only done mushrooms here, so don't have an opinion on which substance, but I have a bit of advice...
First trip was done in the forest, and I had a horrifying bad trip part. Not the whole thing, but there was a terrible section where I was afraid and stuck in terrible thought loops.
Problems I had: 1. Unfamiliarity with the area. We went to a state park, and we were in an area I was unfamiliar with. I felt very far from home, which wouldn't have been a problem had it not been for other factors. 2. It got very cold. It was supposed to be a fairly warm day, and I was wearing jeans and a sweatshirt, and was told mushrooms could raise my body temperature, so I figured I'd be fine. 3. Poor choice in tripping partners. One of the two bailed out at the last second, and spent part of the time messing with us . He hid from us for a part and I felt really alone and afraid.
If you can avoid those three things, I think you'd have a great time with mushrooms at least. It's worth mentioning I did it at about noon as well, and we did it in a secluded area in the park.
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Oneiroi
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Re: Advice for trip: Shrooms or acid for nature [Re: iamnotadream]
#14362599 - 04/27/11 05:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Great thank you for the advice all. Do you guys not use SWIM on these boards?
^ SWIM appreciates the advice. He feels fairly comfortable with the location, having hiked the mountain more than 5 times. However, if things go awry, he will be by himself with no easy way back. On more than half the trips on shrooms, he has had difficult experiences for part of the time (primarily during comedowns). All in all, the positive experiences of his shroom trips have far outweighed his negative experiences, and is willing to face this fear for what he imagines will be an incredible and hopefully enlightening experience.
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iamnotadream said: Mushrooms give you a more empathetic connection towards nature which often leads (IME) to a more profound experience.
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Dawks said: On shrooms I always feel very connected to nature, one with it. Very spiritual indeed.
SWIM is leaning toward mushrooms. All of his experiences with shrooms in nature have been really amazing. On shrooms he has felt intense spiritual connection with nature and complete bliss. He has yet to have a truly groundbreaking trip on acid though, having only done 1 tab both times, and never done it in nature. Also acid may be too long for this trip, SWIM doesn't know if he will be content watching the view atop a mountain for 8 hours.
Some of you mentioned doing shrooms and acid. SWIM has yet to try this but hopes to in the near future (probably not for this trip unless he becomes comfortable with this combo). What kind of trip should he expect to have if he tries this?
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Re: Advice for trip: Shrooms or acid for nature [Re: Oneiroi]
#14362634 - 04/27/11 05:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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No we don't use SWIM here.
My vote goes to 2g of mushrooms. You seem concerned of the duration of the acid and in my opinion mushrooms are great to do in nature anyway. Mushroom trips are almost always difficult for me too, but I go into it knowing that. They're very emotional.
If you do decide to take the acid though, I wouldn't be worried about getting bored because it probably won't happen. The drug is the entertainment, you need nothing else.
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Re: Advice for trip: Shrooms or acid for nature [Re: Midnight_Toker]
#14362804 - 04/27/11 06:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I swim, but in water. Not message boards.
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Re: Advice for trip: Shrooms or acid for nature [Re: DeliriumTrigger]
#14362820 - 04/27/11 06:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I think the whole "mushrooms are more natural-feeling" thing is 100% in people's heads. That being said, acid trips vary a lot more (at least for me) and it seems easier to wind up on a completely different kind of trip, so mushrooms are more of a sure-fired bet. Many times I have dropped acid with one intention in mind and completely gone the opposite direction, whether I liked it or not.
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Re: Advice for trip: Shrooms or acid for nature [Re: tokinman21]
#14362849 - 04/27/11 06:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Unless you know for sure that you're getting acid from the same source for years, you probably aren't getting acid every time. That's why trips are wayyy different, at least, more than just tripping in different environments.
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Re: Advice for trip: Shrooms or acid for nature [Re: Joolz]
#14362880 - 04/27/11 06:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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The choice is yours, my friend.
That said, judging by the brief temporal nature of the hike, I would take the mushrooms.
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Re: Advice for trip: Shrooms or acid for nature [Re: catalyst] 1
#14362926 - 04/27/11 06:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mushrooms hands down. Pondering the mysteries of the universe blanketed by thousands of stars is awesome.
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Re: Advice for trip: Shrooms or acid for nature [Re: Divinity]
#14363116 - 04/27/11 07:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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for anything!
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Re: Advice for trip: Shrooms or acid for nature [Re: Divinity]
#14363118 - 04/27/11 07:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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If you want to trip on the way there I would recommend LSD. It seems to be better for journeys and adventures in my opinion. If you're taking it when you get there, mushrooms. The hiking would be more comfortable on acid than on mushrooms because of the mushroom body load.
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Re: Advice for trip: Shrooms or acid for nature [Re: The_Aviator]
#14363717 - 04/27/11 09:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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SWiM - someone who is me
Would say depends.... But for me,'mushrooms' is all about nature...
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Re: Advice for trip: Shrooms or acid for nature [Re: HarryL]
#14363812 - 04/27/11 09:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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hiking up mountains on mushrooms can sometimes be a bit harsh on the stomach. but hiking up in the evening, and eating them atop the mountain, would probably be much nicer. That way a good portion of your peak isn't wasted on the hike up. And you can have maximum sunset+star gazing experience while tripping relatively hard on the mushrooms.
L on the other hand... hiking up on that would not be an issue. it'd be mad fun and the woods would be absolutely beautiful. you'd get up with plenty of time left to trip and watch the stars share insight.
I'd probably do the mushrooms only because that's something I've wanted to do for quite some time!
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Re: Advice for trip: Shrooms or acid for nature [Re: Oneiroi]
#14364346 - 04/27/11 11:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Stop using SWIM ya damn n00b
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