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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14356552 - 04/26/11 05:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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http://www.change.org/petitions/demand-that-the-employees-on-duty-at-mcdonalds-be-held-responsible-in-the-beating-of-a-trans-woman?utm_source=action_alert&utm_medium=email&alert_id=cDhXeCerHO_TknCKSfcMb


I don't like people like the ones in this video. :feelsbadman:




Welcome to the shroomery,

Where one dick girl is news twice in a week, and the OP links you to a "gay rights" web site instead of delivering promised tranny-beating action.




Wow what?

If you're being unironic BluJay then I'd have to say you've renounced your faith for all the wrong reasons.




This is a separate tranny-being-beaten-at-mcdonalds-by-underage-girls incident as the one we had yesterday???


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14356560 - 04/26/11 05:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

How do you know about these people? Some McDonalds employees I know hold two or three jobs. They've got kids to feed, some of them have health issues and need other work. Admittedly, it looked like a young crew running the place, but the manager was trying to break shit up.

Here's how I picture it going down.

Fight starts.
Manager calls the cops.
Manager tells his employees "Stay back."
Manager runs over and tries to break it up. Several times. Unsuccessfully. While not placing hands on a barely legal and an underage, which could amount in charges levied against him.
Girls leave.
Cops show up, all too late.

I know it's all well and good to say "I woulda jumped over the fucking counter," but brash, hasty decisions, altruistic as they may be, don't usually have great outlook. Maybe I've just spent too much time around hood folk, and I know that you don't put your nose where it doesn't belong, but you can't look at 3 minutes of video and make judgements on people, especially when the guy making the video could have very well been doing it for the victims benefit. Or his own, what's it matter, because he caught the perpetrator's faces on camera, and this can be used to prosecute.

I'm all for jumping in and saving the day too, man, but seriously, people get shot when they try to be heroes. Hell, I just read a story a while back about a guy who jumped in to keep a guy from beating a girl up, only to have the girl whip out a nail fail and slam that fucker in his kidney.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: skatealex2]
    #14356639 - 04/26/11 05:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

That is so full of shit. That's so funny is about how we had the same discussion about the same thing just the other day with polar opposite tone. It's funny if you aren't full of activist shit right up to the brim. On youtube, it gets LOL, as an activist platform it draws QQ.

"Not surprisingly, McDonald's lacks standard policies for protecting transgender individuals, despite a decent record of workplace discrimination protections for gays and lesbians. And while the company has pledged to “take appropriate action” against all employees involved in this heinous event, just one has been punished."

I mean fucking, are you serious? You aren't special because of your gender, and don't deserve (or even need) special treatment or "policies" because of it. Equal employment policies are unfortunately necessary, which is what I assume this is referring to, but that's apples to oranges in this case. By approaching this shit with this attitude you just further the gap. If you want equality you should stop crying for special-specific protection and start filing the right lawsuits. Never mind the fact that this isn't even about employment, but a single hate crime that may or may not have been based on her gender.


They're fuckers, nobody was disputing that, and they would be fuckers if "she" had a dick or not.

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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14356669 - 04/26/11 05:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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If your unwilling to let go of the serfdom of a fast food job to stop someone from getting beat so bad they start to seizure then you seriously need to reevaluate your outlook on life.




You may re-evaluate your outlook on life when someone stops putting free food in front of you, or get bullshit-sued for busting some middle-schooler's face when you can already barely afford to keep your own teeth in your head.

Never mind that aspect, you're asking people with what medical coverage to just jump into a large group conflict indiscriminately?

I mean I doubt they were rooting for the aggressors, christ.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: blujay]
    #14356688 - 04/26/11 05:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Equal employment policies are unfortunately necessary





Like affirmative action?


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: skatealex2]
    #14356694 - 04/26/11 05:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I was just about post to remind people that our policy on flames will be enforced here.

I may be too late, but I ask you guys to keep it civil no matter how you feel inside, practice some restraint.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: blujay] * 1
    #14356727 - 04/26/11 05:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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If your unwilling to let go of the serfdom of a fast food job to stop someone from getting beat so bad they start to seizure then you seriously need to reevaluate your outlook on life.




You may re-evaluate your outlook on life when someone stops putting free food in front of you, or get bullshit-sued for busting some middle-schooler's face when you can already barely afford to keep your own teeth in your head.

Never mind that aspect, you're asking people with what medical coverage to just jump into a large group conflict indiscriminately?

I mean I doubt they were rooting for the aggressors, christ.




You dont need to lay hands on them and you have cameras recording everything that happens, all a worker would have needed to do would be jump in the middle of them and block the shots, there kids that dont know how to throw a punch and Im willing to bet once someone tries to stop it others will help out. Honestly getting a couple shots to the face or a busted nose isnt going to be the end of you might cost a couple hundred to get it set in place to heal right (if your healthcare isnt free) but I find that worth stopping somebody from getting brain damage.

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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14356747 - 04/26/11 06:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Bodhi of Ankou said:
If your unwilling to let go of the serfdom of a fast food job to stop someone from getting beat so bad they start to seizure then you seriously need to reevaluate your outlook on life.




You may re-evaluate your outlook on life when someone stops putting free food in front of you, or get bullshit-sued for busting some middle-schooler's face when you can already barely afford to keep your own teeth in your head.

Never mind that aspect, you're asking people with what medical coverage to just jump into a large group conflict indiscriminately?

I mean I doubt they were rooting for the aggressors, christ.




Who roots for somebody who is on the floor, being beaten by multiple assailants, and having a seizure?

The McDonald's employees are clearly in the wrong here. They simply did not do enough. Also, they're fucking asshats for rooting for those fucking rednecks.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14356749 - 04/26/11 06:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Things like that are pretty easy to say from the calm environment of a desk.

Let's say you go in there to "block the shots," and someone clips your chin.

I don't know about you, but I'd be liable to lash out irrationally at that point.

Boom, fired, boom arrested, boom possibly sued.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14356774 - 04/26/11 06:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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blujay said:
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If your unwilling to let go of the serfdom of a fast food job to stop someone from getting beat so bad they start to seizure then you seriously need to reevaluate your outlook on life.




You may re-evaluate your outlook on life when someone stops putting free food in front of you, or get bullshit-sued for busting some middle-schooler's face when you can already barely afford to keep your own teeth in your head.

Never mind that aspect, you're asking people with what medical coverage to just jump into a large group conflict indiscriminately?

I mean I doubt they were rooting for the aggressors, christ.




You dont need to lay hands on them and you have cameras recording everything that happens, all a worker would have needed to do would be jump in the middle of them and block the shots, there kids that dont know how to throw a punch and Im willing to bet once someone tries to stop it others will help out. Honestly getting a couple shots to the face or a busted nose isnt going to be the end of you might cost a couple hundred to get it set in place to heal right (if your healthcare isnt free) but I find that worth stopping somebody from getting brain damage.




Did we watch the same video? Where the manager, at least twice, put himself between the victim and the assailant? Where he TRIED to get these two people to leave without laying hands on them, at least twice, only to have them jump back in? If he'd had hit the girl in the face, we'd all be sitting here arguing about whether he was right to do that instead.

Sorry dude, but this is one of those wildebeests getting mauled by lions things...helping is liable to get you eaten.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14356775 - 04/26/11 06:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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blujay said:
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
If your unwilling to let go of the serfdom of a fast food job to stop someone from getting beat so bad they start to seizure then you seriously need to reevaluate your outlook on life.




You may re-evaluate your outlook on life when someone stops putting free food in front of you, or get bullshit-sued for busting some middle-schooler's face when you can already barely afford to keep your own teeth in your head.

Never mind that aspect, you're asking people with what medical coverage to just jump into a large group conflict indiscriminately?

I mean I doubt they were rooting for the aggressors, christ.




You dont need to lay hands on them and you have cameras recording everything that happens, all a worker would have needed to do would be jump in the middle of them and block the shots, there kids that dont know how to throw a punch and Im willing to bet once someone tries to stop it others will help out. Honestly getting a couple shots to the face or a busted nose isnt going to be the end of you might cost a couple hundred to get it set in place to heal right (if your healthcare isnt free) but I find that worth stopping somebody from getting brain damage.




You're right I guess, I don't know what our refusal to intervene says about us as a society, but it's probably not good. I don't think anyone would have white-knighted regardless of her gender though, even if it was sexist-hate-crime on the part of the aggressors.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14356783 - 04/26/11 06:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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The McDonald's employees are clearly in the wrong here. They simply did not do enough. Also, they're fucking asshats for rooting for those fucking rednecks.




I wish I had your level of ESP I guess, because I didn't see anyone egging it on. Which does happen, sometimes.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: blujay]
    #14356791 - 04/26/11 06:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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The McDonald's employees are clearly in the wrong here. They simply did not do enough. Also, they're fucking asshats for rooting for those fucking rednecks.




I wish I had your level of ESP I guess, because I didn't see anyone egging it on. Which does happen, sometimes.




Again: nobody roots for the one who is on the floor helplessly being beaten by multiple assailants. They deserve much worse than being fired.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: blujay]
    #14356810 - 04/26/11 06:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I dont know about you but I have jumped in between fights before, I did get a couple shots to the mouth and head from breaking up one between two girls but it didnt cause me to fly into a rage and crack her in the head, all it made me do was wrap my arms around her and restrain her.

And that manager handled it like a :tard:

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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #14356826 - 04/26/11 06:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I was just about post to remind people that our policy on flames will be enforced here.

I may be too late, but I ask you guys to keep it civil no matter how you feel inside, practice some restraint.




Thanks, I deleted it right away. I was just like :crazyeyes:


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Kid_Orgo] * 1
    #14357708 - 04/26/11 09:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Because people working fast food surely have better options, right?



Fast food jobs are a dime a dozen. If you put your shitty minimum-wage job over saving someone from being savagely beaten, you're a selfish fucking cunt.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: NetDiver]
    #14357742 - 04/26/11 09:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Because people working fast food surely have better options, right?



Fast food jobs are a dime a dozen. If you put your shitty minimum-wage job over saving someone from being savagely beaten, you're a selfish fucking cunt.




And that is why change.org advocates new corporate policy to discourage employees from gawking and doing nothing while innocent people get beaten to death by rednecks in McDonald's establishments.

Lots of selfish cunts out there...


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: PreparationH]
    #14360378 - 04/27/11 10:10 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

who gives a fuck... shit like this happens everyday.

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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: ToastedTubby]
    #14360383 - 04/27/11 10:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I give a fuck :shrug: thanks for bumping though :cheers:

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