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MDMA vs Exctasy
    #14356353 - 04/26/11 05:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

What's the difference?  Exctasy is just MDMA cut with something else right?

Second question - Let's say I have a tab that is cut with mescaline.  Does this mean that if I take this tab, I will get the effects of both the MDMA AND the mescaline (or whatever substance it's cut with)?  Also are mescaline-cut tabs safe?

And third, is there anyway to extract the mescaline from the tab?  I am not so much interested in trying MDMA or X but I have been looking for mescaline and I do want to try that.  Would you recommend trying a mescaline-based tab?

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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: Celestial Traveler] * 1
    #14356364 - 04/26/11 05:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

ecstasy is mdma

"ecstasy" that isnt mdma is abolute shit that you dont want to buy

no ecstasy pill has mescaline in it

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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #14356372 - 04/26/11 05:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I highly doubt you will find a mescaline cut pill, because it is very rare compared to MDMA.. They are more likely to be cut with cheaper things like meth.


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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #14356381 - 04/26/11 05:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Mdma is bliss and X is cut with different things like coke or types of speed.


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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: DesignatedTripper] * 1
    #14356435 - 04/26/11 05:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

what.
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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: DollieBizzaree]
    #14356618 - 04/26/11 05:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

a man extasy is usually cut with either coke or meth


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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: Soluminia]
    #14356703 - 04/26/11 05:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Soluminia said:
a man extasy is usually cut with either coke or meth




of the 2100+ pills analyzed on ecstasydata.org, 16 had cocaine in them.

i would venture to say that cocaine is a very very uncommon adulterant.

0 had mescaline in them.

if your pills are cut its likely piperazine or meth. and its way more likely to be piperazine.


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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
    #14356840 - 04/26/11 06:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

even mdma powder will have fillers in it...hopefully none active.



if it isnt MDMA, it isnt ecstasy.  and im sure that the pills rumored to have "mescaline" in them probably were actually an analogue of...such as 2c-whatever's.


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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: LSDilocybin]
    #14357109 - 04/26/11 07:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

If it is supposed to be cut with mescaline it is probably a 2c-x as LSDilocybin said


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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: JimLahey]
    #14357371 - 04/26/11 07:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Chances of it being a 2c-x are still highly unlikely if it isn't MDMA it's a piperazine no one goes the extra mile to make such good ass pills like 2c-x's.


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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: Love2trip]
    #14358966 - 04/27/11 12:13 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Chances of it being a 2c-x are still highly unlikely if it isn't MDMA it's a piperazine no one goes the extra mile to make such good ass pills like 2c-x's.



That is not true, I have talked to lots of people who have been sold RCs that were supposed to be MDMA, and by their description of the effects they were more along the lines of a 2c then a pipe.....of all the time I have gotten rolls (before I knew the wonders of molly) only once was it a pipe, a few meth bombs. My friends told me that they were sold mescaline based MDMA and they looked it up on Pillreports and it was 2c-b. Anything is possible....except MDMA cut with mescaline.


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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: JimLahey]
    #14359379 - 04/27/11 02:32 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

MDMA is MDMA.
Ecstasy was the name given to MDMA by the media shortly after its invention/coming to peoples attention.
Nowadays "ecstasy" can be anything from MDMA (not usually), meth, piperazines, MDA, MDEA, RC's or nothing active at all.


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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: Samuel L Jackson] * 1
    #14359538 - 04/27/11 04:26 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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"ecstasy" that isnt mdma is abolute shit that you dont want to buy





MDA, MDE, and Bk-MDMA


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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #14359561 - 04/27/11 04:40 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Kids these days... :facepalm:
Where do you PICK UP all these retarded rumors?? Extasy cut with mescaline? Must be the same guy selling it that sells the gold and platinum laced silver. LOL. Same with coke. If at all a small fraction of all available rolls might be cut with trace amounts and if it's done then it's not to lessen the quality and maximize the profits, but to make a special "blend", as cocaine is not cheaper than MDMA.


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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: collie man]
    #14359631 - 04/27/11 05:36 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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collie man said:
Quote:

SamuelLJackson said:
"ecstasy" that isnt mdma is abolute shit that you dont want to buy





MDA, MDE, and Bk-MDMA




I got a rootbeer roll a few weeks ago (MDA) that was pretty ecstatic  :feelsgoodman:


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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: extreme]
    #14359808 - 04/27/11 07:11 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Jesus :doggystyle: Christ...

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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: mindbentempire]
    #14359850 - 04/27/11 07:30 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

look, give credit to the kid asking the questions... iv got friends who think they know all about drugs because they've had one before.

its ALWAYS better to ask a 'retarded' question than just assume.


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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: Chicken Nipples]
    #14359861 - 04/27/11 07:33 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I guess it is better to ask retarded questions when logic and common sense escapes one.


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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: mindbentempire]
    #14359961 - 04/27/11 08:13 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yeah, youd be suprised what my more intelligent frinds have said about drugs that is far far from true.
i was just told 2 weeks ago the MDMA was a trip, that he'd have pure white powder MDMA and trip balls for hours on end, its just that pills are too cut to trip.
i thought this guy should know better, since he has a shit load more time 'in the game' than i do.


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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: mindbentempire]
    #14359975 - 04/27/11 08:19 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

"ecstasy" is a blanket term for pills open to interpretation.  if its good, it will have MDMA in it, but most pills these days do not....its simply too expensive.  Often they contain MDA which is similar, but not as magical as MDMA.  In addition to this there is usually something else in the pill like caffeine, ephedrine, methamphetamine...something cheap that will pump you up.  Personally, in the year 2011, I would stay the fuck away from any pills unless everyone at the party is telling you how amazing they are.  Oh and there's no mescaline in your pill.  An active dose of mescaline would be 2 or 3 large gelcaps stuffed with power...you simply can't fit that in a pill.

Try to find pure MDMA; its the best.  In Canada "MDMA" is considered a different drug than "Ecstasy" and in the United States mdma is called "Molly."  I don't know what its like in other countries, but trust me, you want the molly/mdma and not the ecstasy.


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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: Vector]
    #14359996 - 04/27/11 08:24 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

From my experience the white hearts were the best ones.
Pure mdma with nonactive binders. Hard to find the real deal though, shitload of copycats.


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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: DesignatedTripper]
    #14360035 - 04/27/11 08:36 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I highly doubt you will find a mescaline cut pill, because it is very rare compared to MDMA.. They are more likely to be cut with cheaper things like meth.




i wouldn't say it's rare. it's in almost every species of cacti. you just have to know how to extract it. that being said, the idea of putting mesc in a pill is extremely stupid. mesc takes about 2-3 hours to get going, and the amount you would have to take for it to have any effect simply wouldn't fit into a little pill. i wouldn't want to be the dealer selling those at a party.


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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: German Kahuna]
    #14360041 - 04/27/11 08:38 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Kids these days... :facepalm:
Where do you PICK UP all these retarded rumors?? Extasy cut with mescaline? Must be the same guy selling it that sells the gold and platinum laced silver. LOL. Same with coke. If at all a small fraction of all available rolls might be cut with trace amounts and if it's done then it's not to lessen the quality and maximize the profits, but to make a special "blend", as cocaine is not cheaper than MDMA.




i think it's from the whole "mdma is a synthetic version of mescaline" urban myth that's been around forever. i'm sure that was started by someone misquoting someone else saying that the two are related in that they're both phenethylamines.


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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: millzy]
    #14360421 - 04/27/11 10:23 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Seriously, you fellas need to settle the fuck down, it's almost worse than 4chan in this thread. We are all hear to learn from each other, share our experiences and knowledge, not bash each other because one does not know everything there is to know about drugs. This kids question honestly isn't even dumb or any of that, he's just inquiring about a simple and common misconception. Those of you who posted here to do nothing but rag on this kid should be fucking ashamed of yourselves.
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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #14360515 - 04/27/11 10:48 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Celestial Traveler said:
I am not so much interested in trying MDMA or X but I have been looking for mescaline and I do want to try that.  Would you recommend trying a mescaline-based tab?

Thanks




I would definitely recommend some good crystal MDMA to anyone, everybody should try it, and the world would be a better place  :levitate:

If you're interested in some mescaline I would advise you to get some San Pedro, Peruvian Torch or Achuma cacti seeds and grow it, it will take some time for them to be big enough for extraction, although I think Achuma cacti grow pretty fast. And if you reaaaally like it you can grow a Peyote which will take a considerable amount of years to be good enough for extraction, but it is said to have a greater mescaline concentration, thus giving you stronger trips.


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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: German Kahuna]
    #14360727 - 04/27/11 11:47 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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German Kahuna said:
Kids these days... :facepalm:
Where do you PICK UP all these retarded rumors?? Extasy cut with mescaline? Must be the same guy selling it that sells the gold and platinum laced silver. LOL. Same with coke. If at all a small fraction of all available rolls might be cut with trace amounts and if it's done then it's not to lessen the quality and maximize the profits, but to make a special "blend", as cocaine is not cheaper than MDMA.




I have had people tell me its cut with heroin.
Also with acid.
Haha

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if your pills are cut its likely piperazine or meth. and its way more likely to be piperazine.




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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: pouihi]
    #14360730 - 04/27/11 11:47 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Why would you advise to get seeds??? and wait a yr??? why not just buy a 12"

also a 12" only cost $12-$15


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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: FUTURIST]
    #14361387 - 04/27/11 02:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Why would you advise to get seeds??? and wait a yr??? why not just buy a 12"

also a 12" only cost $12-$15




why would you buy the milk when you can have the cow??

sure you can buy a few cuts and take them or even grow them, but I don't know the legislation in your country (since I don't even know which is it) about shipping grown cacti, and in many countries that is prohibited.
For example, I am prohibited by law to order grown peyotes (regardless their size) but I am legally allowed to order as many seeds as I wish, simple.


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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: Vector]
    #14363172 - 04/27/11 07:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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"ecstasy" is a blanket term for pills open to interpretation.  if its good, it will have MDMA in it, but most pills these days do not....its simply too expensive.  Often they contain MDA which is similar, but not as magical as MDMA.  In addition to this there is usually something else in the pill like caffeine, ephedrine, methamphetamine...something cheap that will pump you up.  Personally, in the year 2011, I would stay the fuck away from any pills unless everyone at the party is telling you how amazing they are.  Oh and there's no mescaline in your pill.  An active dose of mescaline would be 2 or 3 large gelcaps stuffed with power...you simply can't fit that in a pill.

Try to find pure MDMA; its the best.  In Canada "MDMA" is considered a different drug than "Ecstasy" and in the United States mdma is called "Molly."  I don't know what its like in other countries, but trust me, you want the molly/mdma and not the ecstasy.




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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: pouihi]
    #14363495 - 04/27/11 08:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

U craazy!!! the USA you can order full grown off many sites! why wait a full yr when you can just spend $15 to get it in 3-4 days??


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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: millzy]
    #14363732 - 04/27/11 09:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

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I highly doubt you will find a mescaline cut pill, because it is very rare compared to MDMA.. They are more likely to be cut with cheaper things like meth.




i wouldn't say it's rare. it's in almost every species of cacti. you just have to know how to extract it. that being said, the idea of putting mesc in a pill is extremely stupid. mesc takes about 2-3 hours to get going, and the amount you would have to take for it to have any effect simply wouldn't fit into a little pill. i wouldn't want to be the dealer selling those at a party.




What I meant to say was mescaline would be very rare to be cut into a pill. Not rare as in general, but I have yet to come across a dealer that sells mescaline, from what I've heard its mostly the user who extracts it and uses it, and it's not much of a product that people sell. Although I could be completely wrong about that, but I know that no pill will be cut with mescaline unless you press it yourself.


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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: collie man]
    #14364071 - 04/27/11 10:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

Vector said:
"ecstasy" is a blanket term for pills open to interpretation.  if its good, it will have MDMA in it, but most pills these days do not....its simply too expensive.  Often they contain MDA which is similar, but not as magical as MDMA.  In addition to this there is usually something else in the pill like caffeine, ephedrine, methamphetamine...something cheap that will pump you up.  Personally, in the year 2011, I would stay the fuck away from any pills unless everyone at the party is telling you how amazing they are.  Oh and there's no mescaline in your pill.  An active dose of mescaline would be 2 or 3 large gelcaps stuffed with power...you simply can't fit that in a pill.

Try to find pure MDMA; its the best.  In Canada "MDMA" is considered a different drug than "Ecstasy" and in the United States mdma is called "Molly."  I don't know what its like in other countries, but trust me, you want the molly/mdma and not the ecstasy.




:facepalm:





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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: collie man]
    #14364157 - 04/27/11 10:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

Vector said:
"ecstasy" is a blanket term for pills open to interpretation.  if its good, it will have MDMA in it, but most pills these days do not....its simply too expensive.  Often they contain MDA which is similar, but not as magical as MDMA.  In addition to this there is usually something else in the pill like caffeine, ephedrine, methamphetamine...something cheap that will pump you up.  Personally, in the year 2011, I would stay the fuck away from any pills unless everyone at the party is telling you how amazing they are.  Oh and there's no mescaline in your pill.  An active dose of mescaline would be 2 or 3 large gelcaps stuffed with power...you simply can't fit that in a pill.

Try to find pure MDMA; its the best.  In Canada "MDMA" is considered a different drug than "Ecstasy" and in the United States mdma is called "Molly."  I don't know what its like in other countries, but trust me, you want the molly/mdma and not the ecstasy.




:facepalm:





why the facepalm?  is there something i said that you disagree with?  please elaborate


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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: Vector]
    #14364275 - 04/27/11 10:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Vector said:
Quote:

collie man said:
Quote:

Vector said:
"ecstasy" is a blanket term for pills open to interpretation.  if its good, it will have MDMA in it, but most pills these days do not....its simply too expensive.  Often they contain MDA which is similar, but not as magical as MDMA.  In addition to this there is usually something else in the pill like caffeine, ephedrine, methamphetamine...something cheap that will pump you up.  Personally, in the year 2011, I would stay the fuck away from any pills unless everyone at the party is telling you how amazing they are.  Oh and there's no mescaline in your pill.  An active dose of mescaline would be 2 or 3 large gelcaps stuffed with power...you simply can't fit that in a pill.

Try to find pure MDMA; its the best.  In Canada "MDMA" is considered a different drug than "Ecstasy" and in the United States mdma is called "Molly."  I don't know what its like in other countries, but trust me, you want the molly/mdma and not the ecstasy.




:facepalm:





why the facepalm?  is there something i said that you disagree with?  please elaborate




Thats what I was wondering, maybe he really likes rolls and you kinda bashed on them? :confused: but everything you said seems accurate to me...


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Riding the outer ring of my own private saturn
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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: MOPE]
    #14364606 - 04/27/11 11:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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"ecstasy" is a blanket term for pills open to interpretation.  if its good, it will have MDMA in it, but most pills these days do not....its simply too expensive.  Often they contain MDA which is similar, but not as magical as MDMA




MDA and MDMA are two separate chems. MDA is said to be more hallucinogenic and colorful then the speeder MDMA. Its really a matter of perspective but i would much rather have MDA then MDMA. And if im not mistaken MDMA is more common then MDA and the rarest being MDE, that hasn't been around since late 90's early 00's


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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: collie man]
    #14364926 - 04/28/11 01:54 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I hear so many ravers saying their pills are cut with this or based on that.
"Heroin based" pils and "mescaline based" pills. Really? Its probably just different phenethylamine research chemicals


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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: collie man]
    #14365399 - 04/28/11 06:42 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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collie man said:
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"ecstasy" is a blanket term for pills open to interpretation.  if its good, it will have MDMA in it, but most pills these days do not....its simply too expensive.  Often they contain MDA which is similar, but not as magical as MDMA




MDA and MDMA are two separate chems. MDA is said to be more hallucinogenic and colorful then the speeder MDMA. Its really a matter of perspective but i would much rather have MDA then MDMA. And if im not mistaken MDMA is more common then MDA and the rarest being MDE, that hasn't been around since late 90's early 00's




By MDE do you mean MDEA? Ive never heard of MDE before and am curious....


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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: collie man]
    #14365679 - 04/28/11 07:58 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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collie man said:
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"ecstasy" is a blanket term for pills open to interpretation.  if its good, it will have MDMA in it, but most pills these days do not....its simply too expensive.  Often they contain MDA which is similar, but not as magical as MDMA




MDA and MDMA are two separate chems. MDA is said to be more hallucinogenic and colorful then the speeder MDMA. Its really a matter of perspective but i would much rather have MDA then MDMA. And if im not mistaken MDMA is more common then MDA and the rarest being MDE, that hasn't been around since late 90's early 00's





I once had a stash of pure MDA and have to say that I was very underwhelmed with the effects.  The guy I got it from also said that MDA was "more psychedelic" but, to me and my partner, this was the opposite from the truth.  It made me feel sedated, bored, closed off, and there was no crazy weirdness pumping through my mind.  MDMA, on the other hand, actually makes me trip...not like intense visuals or anything, but my thought process definitely becomes heavily psychedelic.

MDMA all the way


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Re: MDMA vs Exctasy [Re: Vector]
    #14369744 - 04/28/11 09:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Isn't MDA less potent than MDMA? Maybe you weren't taking enough.


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