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holy shit people are fucked up
    #14354586 - 04/26/11 11:13 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: skatealex2]
    #14354601 - 04/26/11 11:16 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Holy shit-people?

What are they taking?




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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: numonkei]
    #14354617 - 04/26/11 11:20 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

  :meff:


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: numonkei]
    #14354620 - 04/26/11 11:20 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

If there's a beat-down happening where I work, no way I'm going to get involved.
Manager on duty should call police, other employees should tend to business, starting with the safety of other guests, employees, and themselves.
That's the policy for a reason. It's the right course of action.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Doc_T]
    #14354653 - 04/26/11 11:26 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Unless it is an extremely strong attack I'd agree that is generally a wise policy.

I remember at a store I worked at with a on-off girlfriend/fuckbuddy some dude came in one day and pushed her into a plaster wall, breaking through it, because she was having sex with his little sister.

We didn't call the cops and we totally let that happen.




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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: numonkei]
    #14354715 - 04/26/11 11:36 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

id just start sprayin them all with water n then once the crazy ones left. id just locked the door.. n then the police of course :shrug:

people are morons.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: tripp23]
    #14354744 - 04/26/11 11:41 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Wow that's just soo messed up. I wouldn't blame the employee though because I wouldn't know what to do when all of that suddenly happens and I'm the only one working there >_>


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Best In The World]
    #14354748 - 04/26/11 11:42 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

On the other hand, I love how the video is from WorldStarHipHop.com. Shows us what hip hop is about nowadays xP


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: tripp23]
    #14354752 - 04/26/11 11:43 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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id just start sprayin them all with water





Sounds like sexy time.

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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: 4runner]
    #14354825 - 04/26/11 11:56 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Mcdonalds shouldn't need a specific fucking policy for protecting trannies.  They tried to break up the fight and someone shoulda called the cops.  Simple as that.

YOU DONT HAVE ANY SPECIFIC POLICIES SAYING HOW TO DEFEND TRANNIES? :rabble:... I bet they don't have any for men, women, children, etc.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: bbl337]
    #14354834 - 04/26/11 11:57 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'm certain that McDonald's has a number of policies explicitly addressing the safety of children.

Trannies can fend for themselves though.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Doc_T]
    #14354872 - 04/26/11 12:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Na,a few fucking bitches attacking one person on the ground deserve to at least be thrown out of the place. People should have gotten involved.

It's one thing if it's a few fellas who'd put you in hospital but fuck that,sort them out.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Doc_T] * 1
    #14354878 - 04/26/11 12:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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If there's a beat-down happening where I work, no way I'm going to get involved.
Manager on duty should call police, other employees should tend to business, starting with the safety of other guests, employees, and themselves.
That's the policy for a reason. It's the right course of action.



If you watch a human being getting beaten, have the ability to intervene, and do not do so, you are fucking scum.

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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: NetDiver]
    #14354895 - 04/26/11 12:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Jumping into the middle of a group beating? At work, for a stranger? Gimme a break.

For all I know, (s)he deserved a good beating for something totally legit. But take it outside, people!


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Doc_T] * 1
    #14354930 - 04/26/11 12:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, I guess one can always find a way to rationalize cowardice and lack of compassion. :nonono:


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: NetDiver] * 1
    #14354949 - 04/26/11 12:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Doc_T said:
If there's a beat-down happening where I work, no way I'm going to get involved.
Manager on duty should call police, other employees should tend to business, starting with the safety of other guests, employees, and themselves.
That's the policy for a reason. It's the right course of action.



If you watch a human being getting beaten, have the ability to intervene, and do not do so, you are fucking scum.

Policy or not.




Fights on the street or a pub I'd most of the time leave alone. It's between themselves usually and it's there own business.#

This seemed like a straight out assault though,but also I would not jump into a hairy situation where I'd end up getting battered too.

Here I would've though.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: NetDiver]
    #14354954 - 04/26/11 12:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

W/e. :shrug:


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: skatealex2]
    #14354988 - 04/26/11 12:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Hate Crime.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Asante]
    #14354995 - 04/26/11 12:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So would you guys video tape it, like the employee did? McDonald's released a statement saying they fired him already.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: dwtk] * 1
    #14355021 - 04/26/11 12:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Videotaping is unneccesary to document the crime, i'm sure the McD has cameras everywhere.

I'm pretty sure I would have broken it up, with force if needed.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: dwtk] * 1
    #14355034 - 04/26/11 12:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

This video makes me angry. 

Holding the employees personally responsible is stupid though.  The only people that should be personally responsible to a crime are those who are personally responsible, which the employee's aren't. 

It seems as though those responsible have been found and charged with their respective crimes.  The employee(s) being fired are getting their punishment in being fired, I don't think anything else is necessary.

But still this video makes me angry, if I were there I would have opened the bathroom booted the two black chicks in the ass so they fell in the bathroom, then closed the door and hold that shit shut until the cops arrived.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Asante]
    #14355035 - 04/26/11 12:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Dude, no offense but you put hands on two girls, aged 18 and 14, with all them dudes around? You're on the floor right next to the lady getting the shit beat out of her.

Call the cops with a bunch of gangbangers in the McD's? I wouldn't be surprised if three of 'em came in the next day and kicked your ass for it.

It sucks, but it happens, and next time the lady will be smarter about going into the bathroom when people are in there.


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    #14355038 - 04/26/11 12:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: guywiththegun]
    #14355105 - 04/26/11 12:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Dude, no offense but you put hands on two girls, aged 18 and 14, with all them dudes around? You're on the floor right next to the lady getting the shit beat out of her.




If you work there you have right of way and I feel you also have the responsibility to intervene if you can do so without significant danger.

And with "force" I don't mean pull a Francis Begbie on them just herd them to the exit in timely fashion.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: deathofthesubject]
    #14355110 - 04/26/11 12:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Asante]
    #14355200 - 04/26/11 01:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Dude, no offense but you put hands on two girls, aged 18 and 14, with all them dudes around? You're on the floor right next to the lady getting the shit beat out of her.




If you work there you have right of way and I feel you also have the responsibility to intervene if you can do so without significant danger.

And with "force" I don't mean pull a Francis Begbie on them just herd them to the exit in timely fashion.




Like the guy in the video kept doing? I skipped through it, but all I saw wal-mart manager doing was trying to get the two stupid bitches out the door, just like you said.

As a CUSTOMER I wouldn't mind stepping in and saying something, getting the two broads out, because fuck if they know where I work.
As the MANAGER, I'm not doing shit except trying to get the two hoodrats to leave, because I don't wanna lose my damn job.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: guywiththegun] * 1
    #14355731 - 04/26/11 03:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Dude, no offense but you put hands on two girls, aged 18 and 14, with all them dudes around? You're on the floor right next to the lady getting the shit beat out of her.




wouldnt matter to me, damn sure wouldnt be the first time I was
outnumbered in a fight and it damn sure wouldnt bother me to knock
a bitch out in self defense or the defense of another, it wouldnt
bother me to knock out anyone that decided it was wrong for stopping
a fight where 2 we ganging up on one. step between the assailants
and the victim, if the assailants decide to continue their assault
then my next move is to grab a handful of that nappy hair and drag
their asses out the door. they want to fight outside, I'm down but
I hope no one expects me to show mercy based on gender



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It sucks, but it happens, and next time the lady will be smarter about going into the bathroom when people are in there.





why should it be an issue, if there's 2 stalls it's meant for a couple of people to use at the same time, to deny them the right to use to bathroom like any other customer would be discrimination


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14356058 - 04/26/11 04:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Dude, no offense but you put hands on two girls, aged 18 and 14, with all them dudes around? You're on the floor right next to the lady getting the shit beat out of her.




wouldnt matter to me, damn sure wouldnt be the first time I was
outnumbered in a fight and it damn sure wouldnt bother me to knock
a bitch out in self defense or the defense of another, it wouldnt
bother me to knock out anyone that decided it was wrong for stopping
a fight where 2 we ganging up on one. step between the assailants
and the victim, if the assailants decide to continue their assault
then my next move is to grab a handful of that nappy hair and drag
their asses out the door. they want to fight outside, I'm down but
I hope no one expects me to show mercy based on gender



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It sucks, but it happens, and next time the lady will be smarter about going into the bathroom when people are in there.





why should it be an issue, if there's 2 stalls it's meant for a couple of people to use at the same time, to deny them the right to use to bathroom like any other customer would be discrimination




Number one, we're talking about a dudes job on the line. He's got to stand there and watch this, while at the same time thinking to himself "Do I risk my job for someone I don't know, because it's the decent thing to do? Or do I stand back and try to get some help in here? Do I do nothing?" He's probably got a family to feed, and working at Mickey D's isn't exactly putting a Lexus in his driveway. He tried to get 'em out of there, but short of beating some ass (and possibly getting a beatdown in return from either the girls boyfriend, father, brother, or gang affiliate) there wasn't much he could do. There's not much you CAN do when you're the guy in charge, except call the cops, because anything else could get your ass fired.

And I'm all for equality man, I really am. I think if you're born a dude, and you decide you wanna be a chick, that's all well and good. But this is new territory for us, as humanity. This isn't something we've been able to deal with before. We've had cross dressers and eunuchs and all manner of things, but this is the first time in history society is challenged by the idea of a person being able to change their physical sex through surgery. That girl, despite her decisions, is a girl, and deserves to take a shit in the ladies room, in my opinion, but there's still a stigma that hey, the chick next to me is peeing standing up, or she's got a deep voice, it must be a dude trying to look at my cooter. People don't know what to do in a situation like that, and it sucks that it happened, but it's gonna happen. It sucks, and there's not a lot to do about it, but it happened.

It's like Rosa Parks man, someone had to tell that broad to get to the back of the bus to start waking people up that it was WRONG to ask her that.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Asante]
    #14356093 - 04/26/11 04:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Videotaping is unneccesary to document the crime, i'm sure the McD has cameras everywhere.

I'm pretty sure I would have broken it up, with force if needed.




This.

Fucking traumatizing video.

I am VERY glad I live in the San Francisco area.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14356105 - 04/26/11 04:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

If anything they should have at least grew some balls and stepped in the middle of the fight. McD deserves to get sued for a 5-10 million.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: guywiththegun]
    #14356135 - 04/26/11 04:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Dude, no offense but you put hands on two girls, aged 18 and 14, with all them dudes around? You're on the floor right next to the lady getting the shit beat out of her.




I would have attacked the men first. Just to get them out of the way. :karatechop:


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: skatealex2]
    #14356160 - 04/26/11 04:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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http://www.change.org/petitions/demand-that-the-employees-on-duty-at-mcdonalds-be-held-responsible-in-the-beating-of-a-trans-woman?utm_source=action_alert&utm_medium=email&alert_id=cDhXeCerHO_TknCKSfcMb


I don't like people like the ones in this video. :feelsbadman:




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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: guywiththegun]
    #14356165 - 04/26/11 04:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Dude, no offense but you put hands on two girls, aged 18 and 14, with all them dudes around? You're on the floor right next to the lady getting the shit beat out of her.

Call the cops with a bunch of gangbangers in the McD's? I wouldn't be surprised if three of 'em came in the next day and kicked your ass for it.

It sucks, but it happens, and next time the lady will be smarter about going into the bathroom when people are in there.




You wanna gang up on me in a mcdonalds? Really? You better make sure I don't reach the fryer, just saying.


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    #14356168 - 04/26/11 04:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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http://www.change.org/petitions/demand-that-the-employees-on-duty-at-mcdonalds-be-held-responsible-in-the-beating-of-a-trans-woman?utm_source=action_alert&utm_medium=email&alert_id=cDhXeCerHO_TknCKSfcMb


I don't like people like the ones in this video. :feelsbadman:




Welcome to the shroomery,

Where one dick girl is news twice in a week, and the OP links you to a "gay rights" web site instead of delivering promised tranny-beating action.




Wow what?

If you're being unironic BluJay then I'd have to say you've renounced your faith for all the wrong reasons.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14356180 - 04/26/11 04:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Are we sure there was not another reason for this?

Do we know that this person, who happened to be a transsexual, didn't fuck one of these girls' boyfriends or anything else?

What else do we know? All I can find is that the BPD, which isn't noted for it's integrity, supports holding employees who are certainly being paid very little accountable for...what. Being assholes? Standing by while someone is hurt? Every single person on this site has done this to some extent, or they have not left a room since their birth.

It's fucked, yeah, but the point is to 'demand mcdonalds', what exactly? "Hey, I'm gay, if I get hit at a McDonalds I want the dude making less than minimum wage to jump the counter and protect me." Fuck that, really. If McDonalds workers are to moonlight as a police officer, give them a fucking living wage. Looks like the manager did try to break it up also, likely the only guy in house making enough money to feed kids and keep his high-speed internet up.

And whether girl or boy, or both, if the VICTIM isn't going to try to fight back, why should a Baltimore McDonalds employee do so? Common decency? Sure, but most common people aren't so often decent.



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    #14356186 - 04/26/11 04:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

She was a woman who was somewhat mannish, and attempted to step into the lady's room.

I think the problem here is that McDonald's has policies to deal with this type of situation when it's gay people who are victimized, but not for when transgendered people are victimized.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14356407 - 04/26/11 05:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Welcome to the shroomery,





He's here almost a year longer than you are :rainbowcloud:
The Shroomery isnt about violence and intolerance.


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I think the problem here is that McDonald's has policies to deal with this type of situation when it's gay people who are victimized, but not for when transgendered people are victimized.





If you work there and you can stop it, its your moral duty to stop it regardless of policy.

They kicked and beat her to the point of seizures, that often means serious brain damage or spine damage, that may have lasting effects beyond the mental trauma.


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    #14356421 - 04/26/11 05:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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If McDonalds workers are to moonlight as a police officer, give them a fucking living wage.




And that's all you need to know about why nobody stopped that fight. I don't get paid to stop fights at my job, I get paid to run and tell someone who is authorized to either break it up or call the cops. I can't do either on my own, unless it's a life or death situation, because I'm risking my job, which I need to live. If they wanna offer me 17-18 bucks an hour to work as store security, that's awesome, I'll do it.

However, I should say that were I NOT employed at the establishment this was happening at? I'd be helping the poor girl on the ground, or helping the manager break the shit up. But sorry, random girlish beatdowns (which looks brutal but probably resulted in a couple of bruises, maybe a broken ribs) aren't about to kill anyone, and I'm not about to risk my job for it. No more than I'm willing to risk my job over two fat rednecks fighting over the last Furby.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: guywiththegun] * 1
    #14356442 - 04/26/11 05:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

If your unwilling to let go of the serfdom of a fast food job to stop someone from getting beat so bad they start to seizure then you seriously need to reevaluate your outlook on life.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14356528 - 04/26/11 05:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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If your unwilling to let go of the serfdom of a fast food job to stop someone from getting beat so bad they start to seizure then you seriously need to reevaluate your outlook on life.




Because people working fast food surely have better options, right?


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14356552 - 04/26/11 05:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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http://www.change.org/petitions/demand-that-the-employees-on-duty-at-mcdonalds-be-held-responsible-in-the-beating-of-a-trans-woman?utm_source=action_alert&utm_medium=email&alert_id=cDhXeCerHO_TknCKSfcMb


I don't like people like the ones in this video. :feelsbadman:




Welcome to the shroomery,

Where one dick girl is news twice in a week, and the OP links you to a "gay rights" web site instead of delivering promised tranny-beating action.




Wow what?

If you're being unironic BluJay then I'd have to say you've renounced your faith for all the wrong reasons.




This is a separate tranny-being-beaten-at-mcdonalds-by-underage-girls incident as the one we had yesterday???


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14356560 - 04/26/11 05:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

How do you know about these people? Some McDonalds employees I know hold two or three jobs. They've got kids to feed, some of them have health issues and need other work. Admittedly, it looked like a young crew running the place, but the manager was trying to break shit up.

Here's how I picture it going down.

Fight starts.
Manager calls the cops.
Manager tells his employees "Stay back."
Manager runs over and tries to break it up. Several times. Unsuccessfully. While not placing hands on a barely legal and an underage, which could amount in charges levied against him.
Girls leave.
Cops show up, all too late.

I know it's all well and good to say "I woulda jumped over the fucking counter," but brash, hasty decisions, altruistic as they may be, don't usually have great outlook. Maybe I've just spent too much time around hood folk, and I know that you don't put your nose where it doesn't belong, but you can't look at 3 minutes of video and make judgements on people, especially when the guy making the video could have very well been doing it for the victims benefit. Or his own, what's it matter, because he caught the perpetrator's faces on camera, and this can be used to prosecute.

I'm all for jumping in and saving the day too, man, but seriously, people get shot when they try to be heroes. Hell, I just read a story a while back about a guy who jumped in to keep a guy from beating a girl up, only to have the girl whip out a nail fail and slam that fucker in his kidney.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: skatealex2]
    #14356639 - 04/26/11 05:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

That is so full of shit. That's so funny is about how we had the same discussion about the same thing just the other day with polar opposite tone. It's funny if you aren't full of activist shit right up to the brim. On youtube, it gets LOL, as an activist platform it draws QQ.

"Not surprisingly, McDonald's lacks standard policies for protecting transgender individuals, despite a decent record of workplace discrimination protections for gays and lesbians. And while the company has pledged to “take appropriate action” against all employees involved in this heinous event, just one has been punished."

I mean fucking, are you serious? You aren't special because of your gender, and don't deserve (or even need) special treatment or "policies" because of it. Equal employment policies are unfortunately necessary, which is what I assume this is referring to, but that's apples to oranges in this case. By approaching this shit with this attitude you just further the gap. If you want equality you should stop crying for special-specific protection and start filing the right lawsuits. Never mind the fact that this isn't even about employment, but a single hate crime that may or may not have been based on her gender.


They're fuckers, nobody was disputing that, and they would be fuckers if "she" had a dick or not.

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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14356669 - 04/26/11 05:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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If your unwilling to let go of the serfdom of a fast food job to stop someone from getting beat so bad they start to seizure then you seriously need to reevaluate your outlook on life.




You may re-evaluate your outlook on life when someone stops putting free food in front of you, or get bullshit-sued for busting some middle-schooler's face when you can already barely afford to keep your own teeth in your head.

Never mind that aspect, you're asking people with what medical coverage to just jump into a large group conflict indiscriminately?

I mean I doubt they were rooting for the aggressors, christ.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: blujay]
    #14356688 - 04/26/11 05:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Equal employment policies are unfortunately necessary





Like affirmative action?


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: skatealex2]
    #14356694 - 04/26/11 05:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I was just about post to remind people that our policy on flames will be enforced here.

I may be too late, but I ask you guys to keep it civil no matter how you feel inside, practice some restraint.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: blujay] * 1
    #14356727 - 04/26/11 05:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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If your unwilling to let go of the serfdom of a fast food job to stop someone from getting beat so bad they start to seizure then you seriously need to reevaluate your outlook on life.




You may re-evaluate your outlook on life when someone stops putting free food in front of you, or get bullshit-sued for busting some middle-schooler's face when you can already barely afford to keep your own teeth in your head.

Never mind that aspect, you're asking people with what medical coverage to just jump into a large group conflict indiscriminately?

I mean I doubt they were rooting for the aggressors, christ.




You dont need to lay hands on them and you have cameras recording everything that happens, all a worker would have needed to do would be jump in the middle of them and block the shots, there kids that dont know how to throw a punch and Im willing to bet once someone tries to stop it others will help out. Honestly getting a couple shots to the face or a busted nose isnt going to be the end of you might cost a couple hundred to get it set in place to heal right (if your healthcare isnt free) but I find that worth stopping somebody from getting brain damage.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14356747 - 04/26/11 06:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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If your unwilling to let go of the serfdom of a fast food job to stop someone from getting beat so bad they start to seizure then you seriously need to reevaluate your outlook on life.




You may re-evaluate your outlook on life when someone stops putting free food in front of you, or get bullshit-sued for busting some middle-schooler's face when you can already barely afford to keep your own teeth in your head.

Never mind that aspect, you're asking people with what medical coverage to just jump into a large group conflict indiscriminately?

I mean I doubt they were rooting for the aggressors, christ.




Who roots for somebody who is on the floor, being beaten by multiple assailants, and having a seizure?

The McDonald's employees are clearly in the wrong here. They simply did not do enough. Also, they're fucking asshats for rooting for those fucking rednecks.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14356749 - 04/26/11 06:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Things like that are pretty easy to say from the calm environment of a desk.

Let's say you go in there to "block the shots," and someone clips your chin.

I don't know about you, but I'd be liable to lash out irrationally at that point.

Boom, fired, boom arrested, boom possibly sued.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14356774 - 04/26/11 06:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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If your unwilling to let go of the serfdom of a fast food job to stop someone from getting beat so bad they start to seizure then you seriously need to reevaluate your outlook on life.




You may re-evaluate your outlook on life when someone stops putting free food in front of you, or get bullshit-sued for busting some middle-schooler's face when you can already barely afford to keep your own teeth in your head.

Never mind that aspect, you're asking people with what medical coverage to just jump into a large group conflict indiscriminately?

I mean I doubt they were rooting for the aggressors, christ.




You dont need to lay hands on them and you have cameras recording everything that happens, all a worker would have needed to do would be jump in the middle of them and block the shots, there kids that dont know how to throw a punch and Im willing to bet once someone tries to stop it others will help out. Honestly getting a couple shots to the face or a busted nose isnt going to be the end of you might cost a couple hundred to get it set in place to heal right (if your healthcare isnt free) but I find that worth stopping somebody from getting brain damage.




Did we watch the same video? Where the manager, at least twice, put himself between the victim and the assailant? Where he TRIED to get these two people to leave without laying hands on them, at least twice, only to have them jump back in? If he'd had hit the girl in the face, we'd all be sitting here arguing about whether he was right to do that instead.

Sorry dude, but this is one of those wildebeests getting mauled by lions things...helping is liable to get you eaten.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14356775 - 04/26/11 06:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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If your unwilling to let go of the serfdom of a fast food job to stop someone from getting beat so bad they start to seizure then you seriously need to reevaluate your outlook on life.




You may re-evaluate your outlook on life when someone stops putting free food in front of you, or get bullshit-sued for busting some middle-schooler's face when you can already barely afford to keep your own teeth in your head.

Never mind that aspect, you're asking people with what medical coverage to just jump into a large group conflict indiscriminately?

I mean I doubt they were rooting for the aggressors, christ.




You dont need to lay hands on them and you have cameras recording everything that happens, all a worker would have needed to do would be jump in the middle of them and block the shots, there kids that dont know how to throw a punch and Im willing to bet once someone tries to stop it others will help out. Honestly getting a couple shots to the face or a busted nose isnt going to be the end of you might cost a couple hundred to get it set in place to heal right (if your healthcare isnt free) but I find that worth stopping somebody from getting brain damage.




You're right I guess, I don't know what our refusal to intervene says about us as a society, but it's probably not good. I don't think anyone would have white-knighted regardless of her gender though, even if it was sexist-hate-crime on the part of the aggressors.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14356783 - 04/26/11 06:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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The McDonald's employees are clearly in the wrong here. They simply did not do enough. Also, they're fucking asshats for rooting for those fucking rednecks.




I wish I had your level of ESP I guess, because I didn't see anyone egging it on. Which does happen, sometimes.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: blujay]
    #14356791 - 04/26/11 06:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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The McDonald's employees are clearly in the wrong here. They simply did not do enough. Also, they're fucking asshats for rooting for those fucking rednecks.




I wish I had your level of ESP I guess, because I didn't see anyone egging it on. Which does happen, sometimes.




Again: nobody roots for the one who is on the floor helplessly being beaten by multiple assailants. They deserve much worse than being fired.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: blujay]
    #14356810 - 04/26/11 06:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I dont know about you but I have jumped in between fights before, I did get a couple shots to the mouth and head from breaking up one between two girls but it didnt cause me to fly into a rage and crack her in the head, all it made me do was wrap my arms around her and restrain her.

And that manager handled it like a :tard:


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #14356826 - 04/26/11 06:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I was just about post to remind people that our policy on flames will be enforced here.

I may be too late, but I ask you guys to keep it civil no matter how you feel inside, practice some restraint.




Thanks, I deleted it right away. I was just like :crazyeyes:


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    #14357708 - 04/26/11 09:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Because people working fast food surely have better options, right?



Fast food jobs are a dime a dozen. If you put your shitty minimum-wage job over saving someone from being savagely beaten, you're a selfish fucking cunt.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: NetDiver]
    #14357742 - 04/26/11 09:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Because people working fast food surely have better options, right?



Fast food jobs are a dime a dozen. If you put your shitty minimum-wage job over saving someone from being savagely beaten, you're a selfish fucking cunt.




And that is why change.org advocates new corporate policy to discourage employees from gawking and doing nothing while innocent people get beaten to death by rednecks in McDonald's establishments.

Lots of selfish cunts out there...


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: PreparationH]
    #14360378 - 04/27/11 10:10 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

who gives a fuck... shit like this happens everyday.


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: ToastedTubby]
    #14360383 - 04/27/11 10:11 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I give a fuck :shrug: thanks for bumping though :cheers:


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Re: holy shit people are fucked up [Re: PreparationH]
    #14360488 - 04/27/11 10:39 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

wow, thats really fucked up :nonono:
I hope those bitches go to jail :mad2:
of course since the girl was transgendered, nothing's going to happen :mad:


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