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resptodd
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Prep for a mushie night! Not good.
#14354052 - 04/26/11 08:30 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Fudge!!! 10yrs ago I used to be able to eat mushies with no problem. Now I'm middle aged and don't like dealing with the nausea I've been experiencing lately. Soo, I've acquired a few PC's. I've tried to set up good environments to trip on. All the good shit: Sunny day, Good mood, healthy bland foods, lot's of cool ideas on what to do during the trip. But, Damn!!! The nausea from the first hour is killing me. It feels like a bad hangover without the headache. I don't like it (neither does my Lady, she doesn't have as bad nausea, but definitely notices). It sets up for a not so comfortable trip (not a "bad trip"). But, I end up obsessing over the nausea. I think the nausea stops me from having that really cool time where everything is bright and funny. What are some remedies for the nausea?
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Dave Bowman
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Re: Prep for a mushie night! Not good. [Re: resptodd]
#14354061 - 04/26/11 08:36 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Next time make tea instead of eating the actual mushrooms... I was always skeptical about this but I will Never go back to eating the whole goods. It doesn't diminish the trip whatsoever and you won't get as bad stomach discomfort, like if you ate the entire mushrooms.
Also what helps for me is not eating at least 4 hours before the trip and then drinking the tea. I make my tea with honey and cinnamon and you can't taste anything gross at all.
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bholzer
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Re: Prep for a mushie night! Not good. [Re: Dave Bowman]
#14354081 - 04/26/11 08:41 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Eat some ginger, it helps more than I could ever have imagined!
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Re: Prep for a mushie night! Not good. [Re: Dave Bowman]
#14354095 - 04/26/11 08:46 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yup... IMHO, Tea would help you (search this forum for hints on how to make tea)... Can make it with water, apple juice, cranberry juice, ect.... Keep volume down to say cup or less
I agree, honey and ginger both help me... I make ginger tea and have it sit on the stove (no heat just cause), and drink a bit at like the one hour point then later cause it's good... Basically, cut up fresh ginger root, boil say 20 minutes, tea spoon of honey per cup, drink...
Peppermint could help also...
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shroomzi8
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Re: Prep for a mushie night! Not good. [Re: bholzer]
#14354102 - 04/26/11 08:49 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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i grind them up and stick them in gel caps. no taste, all of the trip and no unhappy tummy! id never go back now! 
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Re: Prep for a mushie night! Not good. [Re: shroomzi8]
#14354129 - 04/26/11 09:00 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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shroomzi8 said: i grind them up and stick them in gel caps. no taste, all of the trip and no unhappy tummy! id never go back now!  
Do grind them with mortar/pestle?
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p_walter
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Re: Prep for a mushie night! Not good. [Re: fatppl12]
#14354134 - 04/26/11 09:04 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I use a small coffee grinder. Works okay, just have to be careful not to overdo it.
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Cyclohexylamine
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Re: Prep for a mushie night! Not good. [Re: p_walter]
#14354138 - 04/26/11 09:08 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Look in my signature - I suffer from the same problem and found a way around it with hot chocolate shroom tea.
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shroomzi8
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yep....mortar and pestle.
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Cyclohexylamine
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Re: Prep for a mushie night! Not good. [Re: shroomzi8]
#14354241 - 04/26/11 09:44 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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shroomzi8 said: yep....mortar and pestle.
I found putting them in caps didn't change the nausea  Thats why I tried tea.
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resptodd
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Gel caps sound cool. I guess the capsule dissolves in the gut and passes through the stomach, so no nausea? I see 0.5gram gel caps "00" size. But, 6 big ass pills?!? Or maybe not 3grams because it's all cut up fine and digests better? Is drinking OJ with them over-rated? Or does it actually work? --- My experience has led me to avoid alcohol at all costs. Mushies and alcohol just doesn't mix well for me.
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Re: Prep for a mushie night! Not good. [Re: resptodd]
#14354884 - 04/26/11 12:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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TEA, GINGER, CANNABIS - GOOD TIMES
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Re: Prep for a mushie night! Not good. [Re: Libertin]
#14355129 - 04/26/11 12:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Libertin said: TEA, GINGER, CANNABIS - GOOD TIMES
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Re: Prep for a mushie night! Not good. [Re: Libertin]
#14355136 - 04/26/11 12:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm 26 and I still feel that nausea feeling the first hour.. kinda freaks me out.. I even threw up.. I think it's because your scared of something.. not sure.. or the combination of junk food and shrooms .. not good
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Re: Prep for a mushie night! Not good. [Re: mesoamerican]
#14355184 - 04/26/11 01:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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tea works well for me, gel caps are also very good.
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shroomzi8
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Re: Prep for a mushie night! Not good. [Re: resptodd]
#14359352 - 04/27/11 02:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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resptodd said: Gel caps sound cool. I guess the capsule dissolves in the gut and passes through the stomach, so no nausea? I see 0.5gram gel caps "00" size. But, 6 big ass pills?!? Or maybe not 3grams because it's all cut up fine and digests better? Is drinking OJ with them over-rated? Or does it actually work? --- My experience has led me to avoid alcohol at all costs. Mushies and alcohol just doesn't mix well for me.
'00' caps do .5 g each, so yes 6 pils will do 3g. they are easy to swallow, imo and i never get gut rot. the other way i like is to shove them up my ass. i realize this may not be to everyones taste but it works a treat, wih a good trip and no bad effects. doc t recently reccomended a mushroom tea enema =. sounds perfectly feasable. i was chatting to eatmypeach here who told me about the 'az-tek' wich is an anal shrooming thing.
hope this is a bit of a help without freaking you out with as play too much!
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Re: Prep for a mushie night! Not good. [Re: shroomzi8]
#14359361 - 04/27/11 02:21 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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try suck on some chocolate, i always works for me.
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Re: Prep for a mushie night! Not good. [Re: monkiman]
#14359401 - 04/27/11 02:45 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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i've been lemon teking lately where i time my come up. so i'll indulge in physical activities and things to keep my mind off of what is coming, and when my internal clock says its time, i sit down close my eyes, take a few deap breaths, say a prayer, and just smile. i've been able to work through any pre come on anxieties and nausea side effects with that method and it always sends me in feeling good and relaxed for my trips. Mind over Matter- If you don't Mind, it don't Matter.
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German Kahuna
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Re: Prep for a mushie night! Not good. [Re: resptodd] 1
#14359402 - 04/27/11 02:46 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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resptodd said: Gel caps sound cool. I guess the capsule dissolves in the gut and passes through the stomach, so no nausea?
Wrong. the acids in your stomach dissolve it and it's not really helpful to anyone who really has a problem with shroom nausea, as the mushrooms will be in bits, but these bits still consist of uncooked mycochitin (the same stuff that the exoskeleton of insects is made of!), which our stomach is unable to break up properly, hence the nausea in people with an irritable stomach. The best bet will always be to get the actives out of the mushroom matter without consuming it - in a tea.
However, there is a number of people that still get nausea. It is due to the body effects of psilocybin/psilocin, which can include a feeling of dizziness, as if you were on moving ground, similar to what you experience during sea sickness. If making tea doesn't help with the nausea part, you can try sea sickness meds. There are pills and chewing gum you can get at pharmacies and drugstores.
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Re: Prep for a mushie night! Not good. [Re: German Kahuna]
#14361218 - 04/27/11 01:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah, I think the fiber is the big cause of nausea. Lemon juice extraction works well. The possible disadvantage of lemon is that the come-up is really fast, so be prepared for that. Also, try a slightly smaller than normal dose with lemon.
I'd go with 1.5g per person with lemon for an enjoyable time. Grind 3g shrooms, soak the material in 2 1.2 shots of lemon juice. Stir a few times. Strain and squish the juice out of the mushroom material, divide it up. Get everything you need readily accessible before you dose because of the fast onset. I shit you not, for some reason the lemon juice really glues you to a chair for a while.
+1 on ginger.
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