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Invisibleliquidlounge

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Spawning!
    #14353653 - 04/26/11 05:53 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thought i was f***ed and all of my mycelium was contamined, i was proven wrong! :smile:

So today a new problem came up, as i didnt believe i was gonna get good healthy mycelium i have no vermiculit or perlite. What else could i use? Pref. something you can buy in a normal grocery store.

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Re: Spawning! [Re: liquidlounge]
    #14353661 - 04/26/11 05:55 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Cakes or grain?


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Re: Spawning! [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #14353669 - 04/26/11 05:57 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Cakes.


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Re: Spawning! [Re: liquidlounge]
    #14353670 - 04/26/11 05:57 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

What are you spawning to? And why?


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Re: Spawning! [Re: liquidlounge]
    #14353675 - 04/26/11 05:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Do i need anything at all? I realize its the most optimal thing, but cant i just leave my cake filled with white mycelium in the box and do standard procedure but without vermiculit/perlite etc. I wont be rolling the cakes either...


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Re: Spawning! [Re: liquidlounge]
    #14353677 - 04/26/11 06:00 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You seem determined to fail.
Please reevaluate your goals and methods.
Follow the tek- fruit your cakes as cakes in a shotgun FC.


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Re: Spawning! [Re: liquidlounge]
    #14353678 - 04/26/11 06:01 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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liquidlounge said:
Do i need anything at all? I realize its the most optimal thing, but cant i just leave my cake filled with white mycelium in the box and do standard procedure but without vermiculit/perlite etc. I wont be rolling the cakes either...





Yes. You dont have to roll them. Do dunk them though. The lack of verm on the outside my cause your fruits to be a little smaller. But it will work. Dont crumble or spawn. Just keep them as cakes.


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Re: Spawning! [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #14353680 - 04/26/11 06:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You don't have to roll them. You do WANT to roll them.
You need perlite anyway, get verm also.


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Re: Spawning! [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #14353707 - 04/26/11 06:15 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Doc_T said:
You seem determined to fail.
Please reevaluate your goals and methods.
Follow the tek- fruit your cakes as cakes in a shotgun FC.




Thank you so much for your great answer, really helped me.

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wildernessjunkie said:
Yes. You dont have to roll them. Do dunk them though. The lack of verm on the outside my cause your fruits to be a little smaller. But it will work. Dont crumble or spawn. Just keep them as cakes.




(this is how you answer a question Doc_T.)

Ah, nice, i will go for this and we'll see what happens but do i need perlite og vermiculit below the cakes?


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Re: Spawning! [Re: liquidlounge]
    #14353714 - 04/26/11 06:18 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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(this is how you answer a question Doc_T.)




Incorrectly? :rolleyes:

You really want to mess this up, then blame somebody else for your failure.
I won't play your dumb game, dude. Have fun.


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Re: Spawning! [Re: Doc_T]
    #14353768 - 04/26/11 06:43 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Don't be a an idiot. Listen to Doc. Roll the cakes in fine verm.

There's a lot of things you 'could' get away with. But typically people want to know what they 'should' do for optimal results.


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Re: Spawning! [Re: anonjon]
    #14353827 - 04/26/11 07:05 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Don't be a an idiot. Listen to Doc. Roll the cakes in fine verm.

There's a lot of things you 'could' get away with. But typically people want to know what they 'should' do for optimal results.




Lol.

Nah im gonna try without vermiculit/perlite this time as i wont get any by the end of NEXT week...

Put the cakes in a plastic bag with some breathing holes (will spray over with some water in a couple of hours), fingers crossed!


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Re: Spawning! [Re: liquidlounge]
    #14354049 - 04/26/11 08:29 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yeah u can grow mushroom pretty much anyway doc t would shit if she seen my ghetto set up


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Re: Spawning! [Re: darkhawk37]
    #14355364 - 04/26/11 01:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Dont confuse what you can get away with, with how to get the optimum results. Though not rolling your cakes will work, it will also cost you some results too. If you dont use the perlite, well, thats gonna cost you even more. All of these things stacking up, are little by little, setting you up for fewer and fewer returns.

Sometimes as cultivators I think we focus so much on what the best way to go is, that we miss how forgiving these things are. Its easy to rig up some half ass ghetto set up, and still get shrooms. Is it the best way? No. Will it produce shrooms? Probably. Will you get great results? No

Every corner that is cut, costs you in some way. Just because it will work doesnt mean its a good method. And though what you are wanting to do will work, I still think you should go pick up some Verm and Perlite. You will be much happier with your results.

EDIT:

I dont know about this whole plastic bag busines. That part is definitely not a good idea.


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Re: Spawning! [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #14360835 - 04/27/11 12:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah i understand, however is there nothing i can replace the perlite with? Right now im thinking of putting dry leafs as a replacement lol. Would it help me in any way?


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Re: Spawning! [Re: liquidlounge]
    #14360877 - 04/27/11 12:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

hey don't listen to those guys, i just stuck some grain
in a potted plant and got shrooms!!


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Re: Spawning! [Re: Fungal growth]
    #14360920 - 04/27/11 12:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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hey don't listen to those guys, i just stuck some grain
in a potted plant and got shrooms!!




Nice, well i wanna listen to them because they know whats best for the shrooms BUT surely theres gotta be other ways? Right now (for fun & experiment) i put dry leafs underneath, as a replacement for perlite. No idea if it will harm or do good or nothing. Time will tell!


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Re: Spawning! [Re: Fungal growth]
    #14360934 - 04/27/11 12:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Fungal growth said:
hey don't listen to those guys, i just stuck some grain
in a potted plant and got shrooms!!




be careful bro.

ive had shrooms pop up in my indoor plants without putting spawn in there.

be sure to get a proper ID :thumbup:


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Re: Spawning! [Re: liquidlounge]
    #14360938 - 04/27/11 12:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)



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