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OfflineMetaMountain
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5th trip 27gms nuthin!!! + Blueing=potency Nah!(pics Proof)
    #1435359 - 04/07/03 05:08 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Hi every one thanks to shroomery and sporeworks...my first harvest !!!....got a digital scale and everything....Pes amazonian..harvested after veil broke..

1. Ingested fresh off the rice cakes 16.2 gms (chewed)...absolutely nuthin....nada...no effects...body high...Zero..I did not consume anymore because i figured that it once u eat em the receptors dont accept anymore...is this true..??

Ques: What is the quantity i should have next ?...When can i have for maximum results??

Do I have very high tolerance ?? i have never had a psychedelic high...this is my first time got the whole set and setting thing in place..outside the city..and just spent the eve getting stoned..:(...maybe the shrooms were not potent....








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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1435377 - 04/07/03 05:26 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

I think it was Timothy Leary that said " when in doubt, double the dose"

But the best thing you can do first is dry them and invest in a scale...it hard to judge doses when they are wet.....


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: Psychonaut]
    #1435381 - 04/07/03 05:30 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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the best thing you can do first is dry them and invest in a scale





I already have a scale and i used the shroomery calculator too... :frown: :crazy: :ooo: 

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1435421 - 04/07/03 06:04 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

that's a pretty low dose anyway.
had you eaten anything?


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: felix]
    #1435433 - 04/07/03 06:22 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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that's a pretty low dose anyway.
had you eaten anything?




No infact i had been fasting for the whole day...it was my 1st trip so all the preparartons were made according to the psy FAQ...how much to consume now ??...25gms wet should do it...i guess but i should not get blown away...1st time apprehensions...i guess

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1435451 - 04/07/03 06:36 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

that's weird, 16g wet should get you pretty high at least!

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: stefan]
    #1435676 - 04/07/03 09:26 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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absolutely nuthin....nada




is this "nada" portuguese or spanish???

lol..like the idea of double dosing....going far....
really good......in fact, it is dangerous. But....


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: marcosbj]
    #1435698 - 04/07/03 09:40 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

take 35 grams wet and sit back and just watch


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: NariusFractal]
    #1435707 - 04/07/03 09:44 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

sometimes the first flush is less potent, as well as 16g wet not being much

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: ]
    #1435723 - 04/07/03 09:51 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

16g and no feeling at all?... 16g good shrooms would give me a nice low level trip..... good luck with 35g :laugh:

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: Annom]
    #1436668 - 04/07/03 03:44 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Ok guys 36gms wet fresh and still nuthin(its been 1.5 hours).........WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON HERE.....sigh

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1436722 - 04/07/03 04:19 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

just to add something....my shrooms turn blue when handled...so i guess they are potent....

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1436771 - 04/07/03 04:36 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

You ate the 16 grams yesterday? Even if you didn't feel anything, the psilocybin would still be in your system, so you'd have a tolerance to it the next day. Plus, on consecutive days you should double the dose to get the same trip, which you did, so you should have expected to feel nothing. Try waiting a week or two and eating another 35 grams. I tripped my balls off yesterday on my first grow/first trip, just like you, and I only ate 24.4 grams on Cambodians. The world just seems so different now (but for the better).

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1437282 - 04/07/03 07:05 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

HAHAHAHAHA, I'm sorry but this is funny as hell.  You wanna know why, because you do not know what you are putting in your body and obviously should do some better research.  :smirk:  Sorry, I do not mean to mock and I know in your position I would be pissed as hell. 


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: diggitydankman]
    #1437450 - 04/07/03 08:23 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

WTF is so funny asshole...I really dont know why he didnt get off at all but you are an ass to just laugh at him so go away.


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: TxTec]
    #1437965 - 04/07/03 11:30 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

i'm thinking that maybye you have a high tolorance eat 40grams wet next time


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: george castanza]
    #1438051 - 04/08/03 12:06 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

That sounds very, very weird.

You should dry them before you eat...even though it shouldn't really make any difference, it ALWAYS does with me, wet shrooms give me a weird trip, its not as intense as dried mushrooms.

Ive had dried ammazonians before and 1 gram dried would get me hallucinating.  This is very weird......the only thing I can say to you, is you either have a very high tolerance, or wait another hour and watch out :wink:

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: diggitydankman]
    #1438084 - 04/08/03 12:21 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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HAHAHAHAHA, I'm sorry but this is funny as hell. You wanna know why, because you do not know what you are putting in your body and obviously should do some better research. Sorry, I do not mean to mock and I know in your position I would be pissed as hell.




Dude i am in India ...see my previuos posts mushrooms are as unknown here as elephant processions are there...i did shit loads of research for two years before i got into growing them...i was planning my first psychedelic experience for about as long...

I am seriously considering the fact that i may be tolerant to tryptamine ..alsoi have tried 320 mgs of DXM (I know its not a tryptamine) to no effect) about a year back...i cant understand....really whats up with this...

I think I will just chill for 2 weeks and try a higher dose...hope that doesnt blow my brains into outer space though...

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: ShRo_0My]
    #1438092 - 04/08/03 12:24 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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You should dry them before you eat...even though it shouldn't really make any difference, it ALWAYS does with me, wet shrooms give me a weird trip, its not as intense as dried mushrooms.






Hey i thought that dry = less potency i have them straight off the casings dont even wait so that i get the most outta it...howzzat?

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1438924 - 04/08/03 10:42 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

take more. they'll hit you eventually. keep trying, you'll trip.


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1438990 - 04/08/03 11:02 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Wet or dry shouldnt make a bit of difference....maybe you need to make a purchase from The Little Guy because you definatley have something amiss with what you have now. I have been shroomin since 1971 and have been picking from all the cow fields available in my area an havent had any problems at all.I started cultivating this winter an grew Eq`s,GT`s,Mexi-cubs,Pesa hawaiian and Mazatepec`s all from The little guy with spectacular results....I`ll send ya a Mazzy print from some i grew if you think you can syringe it properly...PM me if interested.


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: TxTec]
    #1439616 - 04/08/03 02:07 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Your offer is most graciously accepted...thankx...

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: ShRo_0My]
    #1439664 - 04/08/03 02:20 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Is it possible that the shrooms are not viable??...that they are duds.....they look perfect just like the photos...in the grow logs and i even have a bumper harvest...loads of beauty...but i have no idea that the last two months of work would lead to this consequence.....thankx for all the support and help i have got on this forum...really appreciated

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1439922 - 04/08/03 04:02 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Are you on any medications? Have you done any other drugs recently that might have created a cross tolerance? Is your scale accurate?

Wet fruit should be a bit stronger than dry fruit, but not by much.

How long ago did you eat food, or drink, before taking the shrooms? Did you eat or drink anything with the shrooms?

Are you sure that you are growing a Cubensis species? Does the fruit bruise blue after 10-20 minutes when you cut them open?

My first time out was on 12g of fresh P. Cubensis - PF race and I was a carpet toy for most of the night. I have never seen it with shrooms, but I have a friend that is 100% immune to LSD. I suppose the same thing could be happening here, but I hope not for your sake.

A few people have to 'learn' how to trip. It takes their brain a while to figure out how to react to the magic, more or less. Don't give up hope yet...


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1439930 - 04/08/03 04:05 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry about my smart-ass remark. There is no reference that I could find in the Shroomery FAQ to tolerance build-up. I assumed that there would be, but I made a mistake and I also assumed that you were some young kid out to just get fucked up and I am highly against this use of the wonderful mushroom. However, before fully knowing the reactions of a drug you should try visiting erowid.org. There is wonderful information there that will help in any further experiences. Once again I apoligize and wish you much luck on your further experiences.


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: diggitydankman]
    #1439947 - 04/08/03 04:14 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Depression meds? SSRI's will give you crazy acid tolerance (keeps seratonin in while acid tries to dump it all).May be true with psilocybin. Just an idea.

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: nosaj]
    #1439977 - 04/08/03 04:24 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

I believe X is the drug of which you speak.


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: diggitydankman]
    #1441969 - 04/09/03 04:57 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

it doesnt matter if they are dry or wet....me and a freind had been growin cubes, and yesterday harvested and ate them wet....we did a very silly thing and didnt get an accurate weight of what we ate, but i think it was around 30g....HOLY SHIT....level 1000....!
if u have ever seen the beavis and butthead movie, the bit in the desert, trippin out....i swear it was exactly the same as that but more intense....if you seem to think that dry are more intense...holy shit..i dont think i will be drying the rest of my shrooms!


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: LiBerAtedCapSter]
    #1442025 - 04/09/03 05:54 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

If you ate 30gms wet that would have been about 3 gms dry and if you split them with a friend and got that high you probably consumed a bit more than 30 gms wet....3 gms dry is a lot for one person to comsume and you probably had extremely potent ones if you an your friend had a experiance of that magnitude.I am glad you had a good experiance but i havent seen a big difference in potency between dry and wet. MJ said it best earlier when he stated that the potency can differ a lot even if the same shrooms are just across the street from each other. Last summer me an my friend picked a lot of field shrooms several times from the same field and we picked a few {ordinary Gulf Coast field shrooms} that spun us off the platter an we had been doing them together for years...we probably only did 2.5 gms apiece and we still talk about that wondering why they were so damn incredible. :smile:


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: Seuss]
    #1442086 - 04/09/03 06:38 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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Are you on any medications? Have you done any other drugs recently that might have created a cross tolerance? Is your scale accurate?





No medications whatsoever..xcept homeopathy...I have never done a psychedelic of any kind..(thats why i am growing shrooms)...my scale a latest model Tanita 1479V Professional mini..got it for a steal.. :grin: $62...

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How long ago did you eat food, or drink, before taking the shrooms? Did you eat or drink anything with the shrooms?] 




I fasted the whole day with one meal at 3pm...then only little fruits..then went running in the eve and dosed at 12:00am..ate the shrooms whole with sips of organic orange juice..must have had a maximum of 1/2 pint

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Are you sure that you are growing a Cubensis species? Does the fruit bruise blue after 10-20 minutes when you cut them open?




The print is from Sporeworks they are reputed enough....Pes Amazonian..the shrooms go almost dark blue from  Psilocin/psilocybin oxidation...amazingly blue...they look like what photographs i have seen of them in the grow log and gallery..

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  A few people have to 'learn' how to trip. It takes their brain a while to figure out how to react to the magic, more or less. Don't give up hope yet...




This i believe could be true...i am a very hyper active almost psychedelic person as it is...maybe i am not breaking through...but its after all a substance...if i ingest i have to break through..right??....anyway i have tried dxm 320gms...lsd 4 times (blotter)....nothing has caused me to trip....thats why i grew them shrooms...thinking that the stuff i had earlier must have been bogus....anyway thats my story.....





 

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1442539 - 04/09/03 10:20 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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If you ate 30gms wet that would have been about 3 gms dry and if you split them with a friend and got that high you probably consumed a bit more than 30 gms wet




noo, we ate about 30g each


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: LiBerAtedCapSter]
    #1442809 - 04/09/03 11:37 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Thats insane you ate 30 grams and didnt feel anything. I guess its possible you got some wierd mutation in the shrooms that causes low potency, but that is real unlikely. Has anyone else tripped from these?

My best advice for you is to wait atleast 2 weeks from last time eating and try again with about 40 / 4 grams (wet/dry) on an empty stomach.


Hard to believe you ate 30 grams and felt nothing, i can eat around 5 grams and not really trip, but i definatly can tell something is going on. If you have to wonder if your tripping then your not. You will know its an intoxication that is very very pronounced. Out of every drug ive done lsd and mushrooms are the only ones i cant "contain" myself on. Or act like im not high.


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: baraka]
    #1451966 - 04/12/03 08:48 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

I gave my friend 3.5 grams and he too didnt feel a thing...

Hey methinks these Spores i bought from Sporeworks give beautiful flushes but there is nothing to them...like there is no psilocybin in them...sucks...how the hell is that possible...they turn blue and every thing....so i guess i will wait for the second flush and then eat em...thats cause some people here say that it the first flush is sometimes less in potency...do ya think its worth it??

Does anyone know what can be done in my situation??

I guess i will grow again...then maybe...

Edited by MetaMountain (04/12/03 09:04 AM)

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1451975 - 04/12/03 09:07 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

chew them up better? fast? eat more?

potency varies.. maybe you just got really unlucky?

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: ]
    #1452094 - 04/12/03 10:24 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Okkkk this is the quintisential(sp?)...test ate 7.5gms dry...stilll........nothin...(ate about 1.5 hrs ago)...surely then the mushies are dead..... :confused: :mad: 

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Re: 1st grow 4th trip 7gmsdry...nuthin!!! :) [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1452242 - 04/12/03 11:25 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

If I was you, I would just increase your dosage to 40g wet, like the previous poster said. Some people do need more to trip.


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1452261 - 04/12/03 11:35 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

It sounded like they were duds from the start of the post to me. I guess your best bet is to get spores from somewhere else. Good luck!

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1452519 - 04/12/03 01:03 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

As has been stated before you keep eating them before you have had time to fully recover from the tolerance factor. It is always a rule that if you want to trip on consecutive or (for me) any day the same week you would need to double the dose. This is why I laughed the first time. I would have guaranteed that the second time and third time you would have no effect as would almost all of the people who do research and understand the concept of tolerance. Surely you realize that the more weed you smoke (if at least multiple times a week) the more weed you have to smoke to get the same effect. Why would shrooms be any different? Each time you try all you are essential doing is increasing your tolerance more. Wait two weeks before you try anything again because by now you won't get any effect from them. Where you are at you would need to technically eat fourteen grams dry to get to the point where you were last time (nowhere). This leads me too belive that, while you may have a higher than average normal tolerance to psychadelics, your body now has an exeptionally high tolerance. Quit wasting your mushrooms and read the FAQ as I did find an excerpt about tolerance in it.


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: diggitydankman]
    #1453089 - 04/12/03 04:43 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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As has been stated before you keep eating them before you have had time to fully recover from the tolerance factor. It is always a rule that if you want to trip on consecutive or (for me) any day the same week you would need to double the dose. This is why I laughed the first time. I would have guaranteed that the second time and third time you would have no effect as would almost all of the people who do research and understand the concept of tolerance. Surely you realize that the more weed you smoke (if at least multiple times a week) the more weed you have to smoke to get the same effect. Why would shrooms be any different? Each time you try all you are essential doing is increasing your tolerance more. Wait two weeks before you try anything again because by now you won't get any effect from them. Where you are at you would need to technically eat fourteen grams dry to get to the point where you were last time (nowhere). This leads me too belive that, while you may have a higher than average normal tolerance to psychadelics, your body now has an exeptionally high tolerance. Quit wasting your mushrooms and read the FAQ as I did find an excerpt about tolerance in it. 




HEY i gave the mushies to some one else too and the result was the same...so it has to be the shrooms then...i guess i need to do the whole process again.... :smile: 

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1453913 - 04/12/03 11:10 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

I think 16 grams wet it something around 1.5 (very roughly) dry... which is not a lot, which would explain why you didn't feel anything (although, you should've felt SOMETHING, maybe you have a small natural tolerance to shrooms?)

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1454176 - 04/13/03 02:41 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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Dude i am in India ...see my previuos posts mushrooms are as unknown here as elephant processions are there




Psilocybes cubensis grows in India

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: mesq]
    #1454305 - 04/13/03 05:27 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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Psilocybes cubensis grows in India 




They do grow here in the wild but nobody and i mean nobody Knows how to trip or what the mushrooms are.I am in the biggest city....no one has any idea at all...and i am a little alone here in my quest.... :crazy:  I am like an out cast here even thinking about them....

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1454351 - 04/13/03 06:40 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

MetaMountain post in the Hunting forum because MJ has been all over and can probably help....One of the most popular specis is Orissa India and the Allen species was originally from Elephant dung! so just ask and those guys will help you....I got your pm`s and will not forget you. :wink:


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: TxTec]
    #1454453 - 04/13/03 09:15 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

I dont know if this has been asked already but what strain were they? What substrate was used? And nex time try pre-loading with about 250 milligrams of 5-htp and a multi-vitamin, just as an experiment.


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: gir]
    #1454489 - 04/13/03 09:44 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Why do you think that 5-HTP would help if taken before a trip? I have heard that it is good to take before X, but that is because X causes your brain to dump serotonin stores and the 5-HTP (being a precursor to 5-HT) will help replenish those stores on the next day. As far as I know psiloc(yb)in does not release excess serotonin, it interacts in two specific types of receptors that normally sertonin molecules interact with.


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: gir]
    #1455066 - 04/13/03 04:45 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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dont know if this has been asked already but what strain were they? What substrate was used? And nex time try pre-loading with about 250 milligrams of 5-htp and a multi-vitamin, just as an experiment.



:PES Amazonian:Brf..14 cakes = 4 casings (Peat /perlite/potting soil/verm)

Well i take my regular vitamins...everyday...like omega 3 x 3
Vitamin C x 3
Low potency multi vit x 3
Vitamin E x 2
These are cool right with shrooms...right??
(i have been eating them for years anyway)

Will try and get 5htp...does it help??

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Re: 1st grow 4th trip 7gmsdry...nuthin!!! :) [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1457305 - 04/14/03 02:32 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

only advice i can give:
1) give some to your friends, see if they trip

2) smoke salvia... salvia has this tendency to break through psychological barriers preventing psychedelic experiences.


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Re: 1st grow 4th trip 7gmsdry...nuthin!!! :) [Re: entiformatie]
    #1460909 - 04/15/03 03:42 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)




so there it is ...
Can some one id them..please it looks pretty normal to me...

Here is one from the side....

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Re: 1st grow 4th trip 7gmsdry...nuthin!!! :) [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1460973 - 04/15/03 04:00 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Some problem with uploading the image so ...double post...

And so this was the last time...for the current grow i guess i have to start all over again.The suspence is killing me as i have never tripped on a psychedelic and i have wanted to from the time i have been reading about them...like two years..its almost as if my destiny does not want me to trip....but i am not gonna give up...i will do this another time...guess it will be a couple of months till you guys hear from me again..i will have to throw away my casings..and cakes..now...sob...

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: peeko]
    #1461761 - 04/15/03 08:08 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Dude, you need to understand the concept of tolerance. Don't throw your stuff away, keep growing, but wait 2 weeks, then try eating 50-60 wet grams. Your post dates in between trips show that you only waited 3 days. It's either your mushrooms have a really low level of psilocybin (it's there if they bruise, and a low level means any physical tolerance for you and you won't trip) or you have a naturally high tolerance, which means you don't want a physical one as well.

If you're really intent on tripping and you don't fear a level 5 (or you think you can handle it for your first trip), save all of your flushes, stop giving friends your mushrooms, and eat 60 wet grams. Then if you don't feel anything (anxiety, tingling, upset stomach) in 45 minutes, eat another 60. Make sure you don't eat for at least 5 hours before eating the mushrooms, and make sure you chew them up well. I'm interested if that would work for you...

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1461921 - 04/15/03 08:48 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

ok you post about dosing less then a week from dosing and your first dose was low. Its TOLERANCE man, wait a month till you try again. If your mushrooms are bruising blue then they are active. If your mushrooms are P.cubensis(which your pics show) then they are active. Your pictures show wet definate p.cubensis mushrooms. You understand wet dry difference too right? because i find this hard to believe you cant trip hehe.


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: baraka]
    #1461933 - 04/15/03 08:51 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Oh looking at the last picture of the mushrooms on the scale, they are really waterlogged i can tell by the coloration of the base.

Waterlogged shrooms will cause overweighing.

try drying them out and getting a weight to dose off from there.


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: baraka]
    #1462024 - 04/15/03 09:18 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

I don't see any blue staining in those pics

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: oneducktwoducks]
    #1462036 - 04/15/03 09:22 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe he will listen to you and baraka. I was tryin to tell him from the begin, but someone seems a bit stubborn.


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: diggitydankman]
    #1462876 - 04/16/03 02:17 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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Maybe he will listen to you and baraka. I was tryin to tell him from the begin, but someone seems a bit stubborn.




Guys.....I get the tolerance idea...but there is one undeniable thing...I should get some kinda trip from...the above weight?....a little ? dont you think so ....the tolerance factor is not that much...if you eat the shrooms four days apart...something might happen...even a tiny bit will tell me that they are potent...its not possible that i eat that much and get nothing..i even ate 10 wet grams later as a booster...

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1463014 - 04/16/03 04:32 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

no harm in just waiting 10 days to eat 50 grams fresh, right? right :-)


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1463257 - 04/16/03 08:51 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Not necessarily. If you have anaturally high tolerance to psychadelics, and you increase the tolerance physically then you are not going to have much luck. Wait two weeks. That is all you can do now.


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: diggitydankman]
    #1463422 - 04/16/03 10:36 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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Not necessarily. If you have anaturally high tolerance to psychadelics, and you increase the tolerance physically then you are not going to have much luck. Wait two weeks. That is all you can do now.




I will wait for two weeks before i try them....But...there is a flaw in the tolerance theory....I gave 3gms dry to a friend...he did not feel a thing from it...that is what stumps me..

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It's either your mushrooms have a really low level of psilocybin (it's there if they bruise, and a low level means any physical tolerance for you and you won't trip)




This dont fit cause they bruise...and very badly too...so the thing about blueing = potency comes into serious question here.I will post a pic of the blueing...so you all can verify yourselves....

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1464061 - 04/16/03 02:21 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

The blueing equals potency lost as the blue color comes from oxidation of psilocin. There are many factors affecting potency including substrate (BRF=lowest in potency) and length of time taken to dry (longer = more oxidized psilocin = less potency). Take all this into account when you judge for your next dose.


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1464064 - 04/16/03 02:22 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

I remember reading somewhere about mushrooms that bruise but aren't physchedelic, so you can't use just bruising for a definite ID. I'm not sure if it was on here or through a Google search though. Try looking for a site that lists mushrooms that blue and compare pictures and descriptions. Maybe you have some medicinal or edible strain...

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: oneducktwoducks]
    #1464177 - 04/16/03 03:00 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

dude, look at the picture he posted. They are cubes no doubt about it.


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: baraka]
    #1466121 - 04/17/03 01:23 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Totally Baraka you are on the king...these are cubies and i have serious doubt about the oxidation theory..whats every body's take on thsi...i will also post the pics of the shrooms blueing to prove my case...sometime today..gotta get some batteries for my digicam now..see ya..later..

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1467877 - 04/17/03 04:08 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Ok I am sure this is going to raise hell for me, But facts are facts..Have a look



After 2mins..(was much bluer than the Photograph shows)


So what do you people have to comment..methinks this thing about blueing=potency..does not augur very well..I know I am a relative newbie..but hey i have a point..dont I ??

I have personally fed (between 25 to 65 gms wet) these shrooms (with my own hand..if you must know) to 3 different people with no effect whatsoever..so the tolerance thing doesnt apply in this case..Please dont say that..


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1468074 - 04/17/03 05:00 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

looks like a cube to me, honestly, i would just try a different strain. GT's kick my ass while lipa yai dont' do ANYTHING. I really dont know what to say other than that.


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1468229 - 04/17/03 05:54 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Keep the faith, and wait for second flush..


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: Raadt]
    #1468515 - 04/17/03 08:18 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

and ive had 3.5 grams of lipa yai rock my world much more then 5 grams of eq's did. Go figure.

Potency varies greatly from flush to flush. Try picking them shrooms earlier. Like right when the viel is getting strechy, or when it breaks.


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    #1469062 - 04/18/03 12:12 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Hey MetaMountain, (Not Mesc),

Shrooms are very common in India and especially depending on what state you are in. Liiberty caps in Pune, Cubensis in much of the country. The WEstern Ghat mountains has a city known to tourists as Mushroom City. They have been going there for thirty years and have shrooms. PEter Gorman reported about the mushroosm of Tamilnadu, India. I pickjed cubensis in Orissa and Copelandia species are all over, plus sivx new spedcies of Hypholoma are now known to come from India.

Read below for some information for you on where to find shrooms in India.

And again, it depends onthe time of the years.

India, like southeast Asia is one giant cow field with no fences in most locations.

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From the book Psychedelics Reinmmagined edited by Tom Lyttle and froman chapter buy john W. Allen and Jochen Gartz, Ph.D.

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Mushroom festivals are also common in parts of India, Bali (Schultes and Hofmann, 1980; W?lty, 1981), the British Isles (Harries & Evans, 1981; Peden et al., 1982), and other European countries (Gartz,1993).


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India, is a very large country comprised of many different climates, thereby providing ideal climatic environments for the growth of several varieties of psychotropic fungi. It is also probably the largest cattle pasture in the world. Cows are sacred in India and are allowed to roam freely across the land. So far only five species of psilocybian fungi have been botanically reported from India. They include: Panaeolus subbalteatus (Sarbhuy & Daniel, 1981); P. semilanceata, and Panaeolus papillionaceus from Pune, India (Bhide et al., 1987); C. cyanescens from Bengal (Bose, 1919-1928, 1920: Butler and Bisby, 1931) and recently from Madras on the Southeast coast of India (Gerhardt, 1990). While some of the four above mentioned species are probably consumed by tourists for recreational purposes, the following two species are not well known of and most assuringly not used in India for their psychoactive effects. Psilocybe atrobrunnea is reported to occur in Bhubaneshwar, Orissa, India (Sinha and Padhi, 1978) but contains no active indoles (Christiansen ey al., 1981, 1984). Another species belonging to the genera Inocybe, Inocybe corydalina (Sathe and Sasangam, 1977) was just recently identified as a psilocybin containing mushroom (Gartz, 1986; Stijve and Kuyper, 1985; Stijve et al., 1985).

Afirst there seemed to be some mystery regarding the presence of P. cubensis and/or P. subcubensis in India. Reports from tourists indicate that P. cubensis does occur in India (also see Guzm?n, Allen & Gartz, 1999, for the mycological reference to its locations in India). Even Terence McKenna (1988) recently questioned the existence of P. cubensis in India by stating that there is a "lack of confirmation in India of the presence of Psilocybe cubensis or other psilocybin-containing mushrooms." As noted above, there are also9 several other psilocybian species which have been botanically identified from India.

Wasson (Forte, 1988) wrote that "Stropharia cubensis was known to tribals and sudras" and wondered if that species was "responsible for the elevation of the cow to a sacred status." Wasson (1982) first reported on Stropharia cubensis from India in 1970 in an article of which he was co-author along with Roger Heim. In 1965, Wasson was in Dumka in the Santal Parganas in the Indian state of Bihar. An informant, a widow of a Luthern pastor, described a fungus to Wasson, as "(big, growing only in dung mostly of cattle, and white reaching an intense cream color in the umbonate center)." Wasson noted that the description tallied with Stropharia cubensis (Wasson, 1982:595).

Two years later, while during another expedition to India, this time in the Simlipal Hills of Nawana in the Indian state of Orissa, Wasson met with the chief of the village who also described the same mushroom from the dung of cattle. Wasson claimed that the chiefs description of the mushroom was similar to the one from the Lutheran pastors widow.

One point of interest which has as yet not been followed up on were Wassons remarks regarding the painted designs in many of the Santal houses which Wasson visited in. Wasson wondered "does its [Stropharia cubensis] entheogenic virtue account for the colored geometrical designs, endlessly varied that decorate the exteriors of many Santal houses."

Reports from foreign travelers (JWA, unpublished notes, 1989-1991) indicate that full moon mushroom festivals and other illicit drug festivals such as the ones celebrated on Koh Pha-Ngan in Thailand, are also held in India. Goa, a large European tourist populated district on the west coast of India is known by foreign travelers as a center of drug consuming activity for many trekkers and tourists who visit Goa.

Several tourists (JWA, Pers. Comms., 1991) visiting the Thai European district of Bamlumpoo have mentioned that tourists and travelers in Western India often attend "full moon" drug festivals, including a small population of European "hippies" who reside in Goa and belong to the drug sub-culture that exists there.

Recently, Mark D. Merlin, a professor of the University of Hawaii's Biology Department (December, 1992), reported that magic mushrooms were offered for sale to him while he traveled south of Goa along the Western coast of India. However, Dr. Merlin was unable to examine the mushrooms to determine and confirm whether the mushroom vendor had real "magic mushrooms" or not. Furthermore, a young female student at the University of Hawaii related to one of the authors (JWA), the presence of the "infamous mushroom women" who gathered magic mushrooms in the woods near her village in Tamilnadu State and then sell them to tourists. According to this student, these women supplement their income by collecting "magic mushrooms" in the Western Ghat mountains during the two monsoon seasons. Besides gathering entheogenic fungi for profit, the mushroom ladies regularly gathered wild berries, edible mushrooms and firewood. The student informed the senior author that European travelers, trekkers, and freaks referred to her home village (town) of Kodaikanadu in the Indian state of Tamilnadu as "mushroom city." She reported that psychoactive mushrooms were common in rain forest clearings near her village in the Western Ghat Mountains and that the mushrooms occurred in grass growing in Gaur and cow manure (see Gorman, 1995, for further information. Gorman also visited India in search of magic shrooms. eventually he found some but was actually chased by two mad policemen who wanted to thrash him just for being a tourists (Gorman 1985)..

Gorman wrote of his shroom adventures in India in an issue of High Times magazine).

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And here is a list from a paper by me, Guzman and Gartz on what magic shrooms are in India.

India (wide distribution)
Copelandia bispora (Natarajan & Raman, 1983).
Copelandia cyanescens (Bose, 1920; Natarajan & Raman, 1983; Ott, 1993; Gerhardt, 1996).
Copelandia tirunelveliensis (Natarajan & Raman, 1983).
Copelandia tropica (Natarajan & Raman, 1983).
Gymnopilus sapineus (Natarajan & Raman, 1983).
Gymnopilus spectabilis (Natarajan & Raman, 1983; Ott, 1993).
Hypholoma gigaspora Natarajan & Raman (Natarajan & Raman, 1985; Guzm?n,1995).
Hypholoma guzmanii (Natarajan & Raman, 1983; Guzm?n, 1995).
Inocybe corydalina Qu?let (Sathe & Sasangam, 1977).
Panaeolina microsperma (Natarajan & Raman, 1983).
Panaeolus africanus (Natarajan & Raman, 1983).
Panaeolus ater (Ola'h, 1968, 1969, 1970).
Panaeolus papilionaceus (Bhide et al., 1987).
Panaeolus subbalteatus (Berk. & Br.) Sacc. (Ola'h, 1969; Natarajan & Raman,1983).
Panaeolus venezoalanus (Gerhardt, 1996).
Psilocybe cubensis (Earle) Singer (Natarajan & Raman, 1983).
Psilocybe goniospora (Pegler, 1977).
Psilocybe indica (Sathe & Daniel, 1980; Guzm?n, 1995).
Psilocybe natarajanii (=P. aztecorum var. Bononi (Guzm?n) Guzm?n sensu Natarajan & Raman (Guzm?n, 1995).
Psilocybe pseudoaztecorum Natarajan & Raman (Natarajan & Raman, 1985; Guzm?n,1995).
Psilocybe semilanceata (Bhide et al., 1987; Ott, 1993).

India, Bengal
Copelandia cyanescens (Berk. & Br.) Singer.

India, Bihar
Psilocybe cubensis (Earle) Singer (Heim & Wasson, 1958; Allen & Merlin, 1992a,b).

India, Kerala
Psilocybe indica Sathe & Daniel (Sathe & Daniel, 1980; Guzm?n, 1995).

India, Madras
Psilocybe pseudoaztecorum Natarajan & Raman (Natarajan & Raman, 1985; Guzm?n,1995).
Copelandia cyanescens (Berk. & Br.) Singer (Allen & Merlin, 1992a, b).

India, Orissa
Psilocybe cubensis (Earle) Singer.

India, Pune
Psilocybe semilanceata (Fr.:Secr.) P. Kumm.
Panaeolus papillionaceus (Fr.:Bull.) Qu?l
Sri Lanka (Ceylon)
Copelandia cyanescens (Berk. & Br.) Singer (Coomarasway, 1979; Singer, 1969; Pegler, 1986).
Copelandia cambodgeniensis (Gerhardt, 1996).
Panaeolus Ater (Ola'h, 1969).
Panaeolus rubricaulis (Gerhardt, 1996).
Psilocybe goniospora (Berk. & Br.) Singer (Pegler, 1986; Guzm?n, 1983, 1995).
Psilocybe ochreata (Berk. & Br.) Horak ex Guzm?n (Guzm?n, 1983; Pegler, 1986). Psilocybe rostrata (Pegler, 1986; Guzm?n, 1995).

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Six of the above noted Psilocybe species newly discoveed in India have had their names changed to the genera Hypholoma.

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So my dear Mesc, as you can see, there are many shrooms to be found in India. It is just depends on where you are and who you know. They are aware of the shrooms in many areas. In fact they even pick edible shrooms so people who own cattle know of them. ANd there are millins of cattle inthat country.

By the way, while Hindi's do not eat the mat of cows, they do eat Buffalo meat and other four-legged ruminants.

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1469091 - 04/18/03 12:26 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

eat alot of them. then take more dxm 700mg+

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1469173 - 04/18/03 01:08 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

I think I have heard a lot of bad advice here.

Be patient...and be careful.

Try again.

The physical tolerance of psilocybin/psilocin wears off after 3-4 days.

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: Joshua]
    #1469314 - 04/18/03 02:23 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

MJ it wasnt me who was questioning the prevalence of Psilocybes in India I was responding to this :

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Dude i am in India ...see my previuos posts mushrooms are as unknown here as elephant processions are there...





From someone previously in this thread.

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: mesq]
    #1469753 - 04/18/03 08:53 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

I realized that after I sent you a pm.

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: the spiral]
    #1525529 - 05/06/03 07:16 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Just keep eating till ya can't physically eat any more... always goes down a treat... hehe

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: Smiley_Riley]
    #1525607 - 05/06/03 07:54 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

I realize this isnt gonna help you alot :wink:
I Myself have a high tolerance, I've tried 1.5, 1.75, 2 Dried grams before without feeling any effects at all, i've tried different shrooms and more, 4 grams this time, this turned out to give me about a level 1 trip, the last time I tripped I ate about 6 dried grams and I got a level 2/3 trip, probably because I smoked alot of ganj with it too..

What im saying is.. you're not the only one with a high tolerance, just keep trying more, and try different strains, and you probably will trip.

Stay safe...

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Just keep eating till ya can't physically eat any more... always goes down a treat... hehe 




this for example I wouldnt call very safe  :tongue:


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: Tripz Versus Kaboom]
    #1526872 - 05/07/03 06:12 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

maybe your letting the caps open too much..next time pic the shroomies as the veil is breaking not after it already borke....maybe that hass umthing to do with lack of potency


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: JameZTheNewbie]
    #1527431 - 05/07/03 11:53 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

the first time, I ate 3g of GT and had a really intense great trip. A week later me and four friends ate the rest of it (around 2 grams each), wasn't as intense, but everyone tripped. I can't imagine eating 7grams and not loosing my shit. Good luck dude.

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: tak_old]
    #1527892 - 05/07/03 02:23 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

well guys all of you thanks for all the support i have been dished out here...but now I have finally run out of shrooms i still have a couple of questions for my next grow:

Ques: I have One more syringe of the Pes Amazonian left with me is it worth going for another grow??

Ques: Does using grain over brf cause a diff in potency?

And For the record this thread will be dead only when i get my first trip....Period

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1528598 - 05/07/03 07:18 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Eat 20 dry grams. If you can or can't trip, that should let you know!  :laugh:

Just kidding - don't do that, you will likely end up in another world.. maybe permenantly.


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: the spiral]
    #1551741 - 05/15/03 04:09 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Man... a DXM 320mg would do no more than releive yr cough.... next time up yr DX dosage to upwards of a gram.... then you'll be fukin laughin....

As for yr shrooms... i'm having the same problem with mine (PC Mexicana), unless the wild shrooms around melbourne are fukin kik arse (which they probly are) these home grown one are shit... i ate 40 or so shrooms last friday night, and can't say that i "tripped".... i think i'm gonna try drying them out next time.... seyaa!

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: Smiley_Riley]
    #1551782 - 05/15/03 04:17 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Man... a DXM 320mg would do no more than releive yr cough.... next time up yr DX dosage to upwards of a gram.... then you'll be fukin laughin....





So this is why ODD is moderated... I understand now. Be careful doing upwards of a gram of DXM... depending upon your body weight, this could be getting into the danger zone for an OD.


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: Seuss]
    #1552684 - 05/15/03 09:45 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Yea, i've tried a gram+, and could barly even form sentences. I would start to say something, and then just repeat some word I was stuck on untill I just gave up. And all over the walls and ceiling were red worm like things flying around. Wasn't exactly fun.


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: Annom]
    #1552886 - 05/15/03 11:10 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

some people , because of being abused as children or whatever cannot "let go" and trip, I read once about a guy that was given high doses of LSD and  nothing happened until one day he had a very strong trip
but that took a long time


hell I notice half a gram :grin: of shrooms 


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1553498 - 05/16/03 07:00 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Sorry That I did'nt read the entire thread.but are you taking any kind of medication? I know that some SSRIs can lessen the effects of shrooms.Try on an empty stomach maybe?

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: Pinhead]
    #1553505 - 05/16/03 07:07 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

I guess I should of read the previous posts...What I suggested was already mentioned.A friend of mine was telling me that when he was young (Hes 62 now)he and a friend did quite a bit of acid..His friend tripped his ass off but my friend felt nothing.Then a month later when he was driving through the country a giant stone wall appeared in the middle of the road. He got out of his car to examine it and walked right through it! Bizzare huh? I had a hard as hell time beleiving that after a month's time he would get hallucinations..If it was anyone else telling me I would of just blew it off.

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #1554669 - 05/16/03 05:03 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

some people , because of being abused as children or whatever cannot "let go" and trip, I read once about a guy that was given high doses of LSD and nothing happened until one day he had a very strong trip
but that took a long time
 




I am Pretty chill about my child abuse episode yeah i did have it...I rarely think about my past...I have had a disturbed childhood but its kinda like everyone i meet here :cool:...anyway these are some of the issues i know will come up when I trip and would like them to infact...I hope i do  :crazy:??...trip that is :laugh:

     

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: oneducktwoducks]
    #1554988 - 05/16/03 08:16 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

hahaha, good advice


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: Cracka_X]
    #1555276 - 05/16/03 11:03 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Have you researched syrian rue? Scientific name is peganum harmala. It can be obtained fairly easily on the internet and could posibly be something you could find easily in India. It is used to make dye for carpets in the middle east and I think india as well.

Any way it is a monoamine oxidase inhibiter which basically means that it shuts down or impairs the chemistry in you body that stops thing like shrooms from working efficiently.

Be careful. Some foods can not be eaten with MAOI's. And alcohol is out as well. Read up on it at Erowid and decide for yourself it could be your ticket to enlightenment.


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: Ekstaza]
    #1667951 - 06/27/03 07:34 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

try rue...but start slow!


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: frizzed]
    #1668458 - 06/28/03 12:45 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

hrrm in the picture with your scale the weigh is..27grams.... that looks like alot more than 2.7 dry grams. ahah i think ur scale is waaaayyy off


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: FazEd]
    #1669973 - 06/28/03 06:02 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

The scale is measuring correctly as 27 wet :crazy:...here is the scale check it out...its quite enough for Mushroom weighing.. [url=http://Tanita 1479V]http://www.oldwillknott.com/t1479v.html[/url] ...

My girlfriend had the last of those shrooms but she heaved it...so i guess we will never know....(Maybe?) 

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1673503 - 06/30/03 08:10 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

I feel bad for you. Maybe while you are groing your next flush of shrooms you could do some research in other hallucinogens?
You can order Salvia online (it's still legal, but maybe not for long). But there are also a lot of people who have trouble breaking through with Salvia.
You can also order Woodrose seeds.
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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: cybrbeast]
    #1674249 - 06/30/03 02:46 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

damn man, i feel so sorry for you, my first shroom trip was off five of my friends little cubies and they SPOKE to me! if i had a problem like yours, i would try rue with like 25g wet, but that could be a big dose as rue supposedly doubles the total time trippin and the intensity of the trip, or so i've been led to believe.
but, eh, it is a great tragedy to die without ever having lived, unless ya got plans for the other side :wink:

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: Psychonaut]
    #1674440 - 06/30/03 04:17 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

" when in doubt, double the dose"




I think the Mushroom king "Paul Stamets" said that in one of his books.


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1674622 - 06/30/03 05:14 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Yes lots of shitty advice.

Are you growing these on Brown Rice Flour?
Im willing to bet that is your problem...
IMO BRF is shit for potency.
Move up to corn or birdseed, and spawn to straw.
You will have no problem getting off on 3 dried grams.

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: Effed]
    #1674929 - 06/30/03 07:24 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)



My advice is to not take your multivitamins that day.

There was a discussion on the shroomery a while ago about 'carotene' being an inhibitor. (do some research, i think its the thing that causes fruits/veggies to become orange, exept oranges themselves. ie: carrots, cantaloupe, etc.)

Most multivitamins have carotene. Especialy 'herbal eye medicines'.


Altho my first guess would be the potency. You can test the above theory once you've grown some more i guess. =]

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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: RuNE]
    #1693880 - 07/07/03 05:18 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

So, MetaMountain, how is it going?
Any progress in tripping yet?


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: the spiral]
    #1931389 - 09/19/03 01:35 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

"HAHAHAHAHA, I'm sorry but this is funny as hell. You wanna know why, because you do not know what you are putting in your body and obviously should do some better research. Sorry, I do not mean to mock and I know in your position I would be pissed as hell."

Yes i know you've been flamed already but the above post was well out of order. Catch a hold of yourself and calm down.



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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: the spiral]
    #1933125 - 09/19/03 04:32 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

I know 2 people who can't trip on anything, no matter the dose. Theyve tried fungis, misc. exotic tryptamines & phenethylamines, and even good ole uncle cid. The most they got was a stomach ache. I havent really dug too far into neurochemistry but Im pretty sure its safe to say everyones neurochemistry is a little different from everyone elses. These two were perscribbed 5htp and l-tyrosine(daily) by a professional psychedelic guru, and this actually helped a little. But at the same time, SWIM has had fungi harvests that had low to no potency at all. These were Maz's. Then tried eq's tc's which were super! Then tried maz's again with same, lame Maz results.
If you have tried LSD, Dex, and fungus and havent had a psychedelic experience yet, I'm gonna guess that its a brain chemistry thing. Just a guess though...


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