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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1454176 - 04/13/03 02:41 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

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Dude i am in India ...see my previuos posts mushrooms are as unknown here as elephant processions are there




Psilocybes cubensis grows in India


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: mesq]
    #1454305 - 04/13/03 05:27 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

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Psilocybes cubensis grows in India 




They do grow here in the wild but nobody and i mean nobody Knows how to trip or what the mushrooms are.I am in the biggest city....no one has any idea at all...and i am a little alone here in my quest.... :crazy:  I am like an out cast here even thinking about them....


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1454351 - 04/13/03 06:40 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

MetaMountain post in the Hunting forum because MJ has been all over and can probably help....One of the most popular specis is Orissa India and the Allen species was originally from Elephant dung! so just ask and those guys will help you....I got your pm`s and will not forget you. :wink:


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: TxTec]
    #1454453 - 04/13/03 09:15 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

I dont know if this has been asked already but what strain were they? What substrate was used? And nex time try pre-loading with about 250 milligrams of 5-htp and a multi-vitamin, just as an experiment.


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: gir]
    #1454489 - 04/13/03 09:44 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

Why do you think that 5-HTP would help if taken before a trip? I have heard that it is good to take before X, but that is because X causes your brain to dump serotonin stores and the 5-HTP (being a precursor to 5-HT) will help replenish those stores on the next day. As far as I know psiloc(yb)in does not release excess serotonin, it interacts in two specific types of receptors that normally sertonin molecules interact with.


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: gir]
    #1455066 - 04/13/03 04:45 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

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dont know if this has been asked already but what strain were they? What substrate was used? And nex time try pre-loading with about 250 milligrams of 5-htp and a multi-vitamin, just as an experiment.



:PES Amazonian:Brf..14 cakes = 4 casings (Peat /perlite/potting soil/verm)

Well i take my regular vitamins...everyday...like omega 3 x 3
Vitamin C x 3
Low potency multi vit x 3
Vitamin E x 2
These are cool right with shrooms...right??
(i have been eating them for years anyway)

Will try and get 5htp...does it help??


Edited by MetaMountain (04/13/03 04:48 PM)


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Re: 1st grow 4th trip 7gmsdry...nuthin!!! :) [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1457305 - 04/14/03 02:32 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

only advice i can give:
1) give some to your friends, see if they trip

2) smoke salvia... salvia has this tendency to break through psychological barriers preventing psychedelic experiences.


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Re: 1st grow 4th trip 7gmsdry...nuthin!!! :) [Re: entiformatie]
    #1460909 - 04/15/03 03:42 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)




so there it is ...
Can some one id them..please it looks pretty normal to me...

Here is one from the side....


Edited by MetaMountain (04/15/03 03:45 PM)


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Re: 1st grow 4th trip 7gmsdry...nuthin!!! :) [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1460973 - 04/15/03 04:00 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

Some problem with uploading the image so ...double post...

And so this was the last time...for the current grow i guess i have to start all over again.The suspence is killing me as i have never tripped on a psychedelic and i have wanted to from the time i have been reading about them...like two years..its almost as if my destiny does not want me to trip....but i am not gonna give up...i will do this another time...guess it will be a couple of months till you guys hear from me again..i will have to throw away my casings..and cakes..now...sob...


Edited by MetaMountain (04/15/03 04:07 PM)


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: peeko]
    #1461761 - 04/15/03 08:08 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

Dude, you need to understand the concept of tolerance. Don't throw your stuff away, keep growing, but wait 2 weeks, then try eating 50-60 wet grams. Your post dates in between trips show that you only waited 3 days. It's either your mushrooms have a really low level of psilocybin (it's there if they bruise, and a low level means any physical tolerance for you and you won't trip) or you have a naturally high tolerance, which means you don't want a physical one as well.

If you're really intent on tripping and you don't fear a level 5 (or you think you can handle it for your first trip), save all of your flushes, stop giving friends your mushrooms, and eat 60 wet grams. Then if you don't feel anything (anxiety, tingling, upset stomach) in 45 minutes, eat another 60. Make sure you don't eat for at least 5 hours before eating the mushrooms, and make sure you chew them up well. I'm interested if that would work for you...


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1461921 - 04/15/03 08:48 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

ok you post about dosing less then a week from dosing and your first dose was low. Its TOLERANCE man, wait a month till you try again. If your mushrooms are bruising blue then they are active. If your mushrooms are P.cubensis(which your pics show) then they are active. Your pictures show wet definate p.cubensis mushrooms. You understand wet dry difference too right? because i find this hard to believe you cant trip hehe.


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: baraka]
    #1461933 - 04/15/03 08:51 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

Oh looking at the last picture of the mushrooms on the scale, they are really waterlogged i can tell by the coloration of the base.

Waterlogged shrooms will cause overweighing.

try drying them out and getting a weight to dose off from there.


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: baraka]
    #1462024 - 04/15/03 09:18 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

I don't see any blue staining in those pics


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: oneducktwoducks]
    #1462036 - 04/15/03 09:22 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

Maybe he will listen to you and baraka. I was tryin to tell him from the begin, but someone seems a bit stubborn.


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: diggitydankman]
    #1462876 - 04/16/03 02:17 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

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Maybe he will listen to you and baraka. I was tryin to tell him from the begin, but someone seems a bit stubborn.




Guys.....I get the tolerance idea...but there is one undeniable thing...I should get some kinda trip from...the above weight?....a little ? dont you think so ....the tolerance factor is not that much...if you eat the shrooms four days apart...something might happen...even a tiny bit will tell me that they are potent...its not possible that i eat that much and get nothing..i even ate 10 wet grams later as a booster...


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1463014 - 04/16/03 04:32 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

no harm in just waiting 10 days to eat 50 grams fresh, right? right :-)


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1463257 - 04/16/03 08:51 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

Not necessarily. If you have anaturally high tolerance to psychadelics, and you increase the tolerance physically then you are not going to have much luck. Wait two weeks. That is all you can do now.


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: diggitydankman]
    #1463422 - 04/16/03 10:36 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

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Not necessarily. If you have anaturally high tolerance to psychadelics, and you increase the tolerance physically then you are not going to have much luck. Wait two weeks. That is all you can do now.




I will wait for two weeks before i try them....But...there is a flaw in the tolerance theory....I gave 3gms dry to a friend...he did not feel a thing from it...that is what stumps me..

Quote:

It's either your mushrooms have a really low level of psilocybin (it's there if they bruise, and a low level means any physical tolerance for you and you won't trip)




This dont fit cause they bruise...and very badly too...so the thing about blueing = potency comes into serious question here.I will post a pic of the blueing...so you all can verify yourselves....


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1464061 - 04/16/03 02:21 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

The blueing equals potency lost as the blue color comes from oxidation of psilocin. There are many factors affecting potency including substrate (BRF=lowest in potency) and length of time taken to dry (longer = more oxidized psilocin = less potency). Take all this into account when you judge for your next dose.


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Re: 1st grow 1st trip 16.2gms wet...nuthin!!! [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1464064 - 04/16/03 02:22 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

I remember reading somewhere about mushrooms that bruise but aren't physchedelic, so you can't use just bruising for a definite ID. I'm not sure if it was on here or through a Google search though. Try looking for a site that lists mushrooms that blue and compare pictures and descriptions. Maybe you have some medicinal or edible strain...


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