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Re: how introverted are you? [Re: bigmike7104]
    #14348537 - 04/25/11 11:08 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It was the most significant moment of my entire life.  I've eaten 10 strips, and 15+ grams of mushrooms, and never come close to that experience again.  I doubt I ever will.  It was the start of a whole new life and a whole new me.  My life was put into perspective.  Not everything was life or death.  And the beauty of life and being has never and probably will never be as clear to me as that day.

I was immune to bad trips when I was young.  Like every other teenager, I thought I was invincible, and nothing scared me.  My first bad trip was in my 20s.

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Re: how introverted are you? [Re: BothHands]
    #14349389 - 04/25/11 02:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Damn, Iv always wondered about combining the two; what a way to get into psyches tho. I love the 2Cs because I am completely impervious to neg thought while on them. Shrooms are only for when Im in the most stable of times. Hey at least you weren't taking any SSRIs which could have resulted in serotonin syndrome.

Psyches are like my introversion maintenance medicine, without them I wouldn't be nearly as assured of my choice. At this point I cant imagine a world without them, so bland. Of course there's always lucid dreaming but that takes a bit of luck:sleep:

The other reason for the introversion has been mycology, started out with only the intent to trip now I have isolated lions mane and a whole bunch of cloned/isolated active strains mainly for the fun of the hobby; every moment I spend with friends is one less moment on here where I could actually learn something to make these systems more efficient; sounds kinda hypocritical since Im socializing with all of you but I think of this as a much different situation.

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Re: how introverted are you? [Re: Wise Toad]
    #14349981 - 04/25/11 04:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

combining the two?  The two what?

you mean anti-psychotics and psychedelics?  If you combine them, you won't trip at all.  Anti-psychotics block the receptors that psychedelics work on.  But when the receptors are blocked all the time, they gets more sensitive.  So when you come OFF the psyches, and still have sensitive receptors, that's where you could possibly intensify your experience.

I've also been on every SSRI known to man, but I came off those about a month before I came off the antipsychotic.

Haha, yeah, 2C's don't just make me impervious to bad thoughts, they make me impervious to ALL thoughts.  Nothing goes through my head at all.  I feel really good, but I'm not thinking "wow, I feel good."  It's just a completely still state of being with no thought whatsoever.

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Re: how introverted are you? [Re: BothHands]
    #14350264 - 04/25/11 05:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah thats what I meant, I had just never heard of anyone using the two at the same time. What you say makes perfect sense since thats the job of anti psyches, yet, I wondered since instead of taking just an anti psyche to curb your naturally abnormal level of serotonin you would be taking two drugs with conflicting effects; have you ever taken the two in combination or heard of anyone who has?

SSRIs made my IBS worse back when I had it, those doctors could use a good:facepalm2:

2C-I does for sure, been meaning to try 2C-B, however, 2C-T-7 has given me some of the most amazing introspective mind trips ever; It was on a completely different level than all other psyches Iv been on. I wish I could find some more:shakingfist:

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Re: how introverted are you? [Re: Wise Toad]
    #14350333 - 04/25/11 05:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Actually, I have combined them.  In fact, I use trazadone to kill bad trips.  And that's what it does, it lessens or eliminates the intensity of the trip.  And puts me the fuck to sleep. :lol:


I got the same thoughtless stillness from 2C-I, 2C-E, and 2C-P.  Only tried 2C-B once, but it was with MDMA, so I can't comment on its effects alone.  Haven't tried any of the others.

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Re: how introverted are you? [Re: BothHands]
    #14350540 - 04/25/11 05:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Heres wishing they were legal, both the anti psyches and the 2Cs. Im still debating whether or not to try MDMA, I have heard mixed reviews, the most important thing to me is my mental state afterward. Iv talked to friends who tried it and were slow for days, maybe thats just him

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Re: how introverted are you? [Re: Wise Toad]
    #14350584 - 04/25/11 06:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, the last time I took MDMA I feel in love with my best friend.  Knowing I could never have her on top of the serotonin depletion ended up being the worst crash of my entire life.  I didn't get out of bed to stop crying for 5 days.

But usually it's not that bad.  Usually just a bit of sadness for one or two days.  MDMA is the most euphoric substance I've ever done in my life.  Have you ever eaten bridgesii?  It's got the exact same type of euphoria, but even more powerful.

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Re: how introverted are you? [Re: BothHands]
    #14350675 - 04/25/11 06:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

you mean mescal? No, I haven't tried any form of cactus but its been on my hit list for some time. Hmm, thats legal right, I might be able to get some then but I really want some peyote

The most euphoric drug Iv ever used is HBWR, take five seeds and a bowl or two of weed an hour after dropping and every two subsequent hours. Ineffable suffice it to say I had a philosophical conversation with the sun(in an old N64 video game called paper mario, no I didn't go blind). Shit just starts talking to you and every sound, taste, and color is a mental orgasm. I just ordered some more from tranceplants, should be here in a day or two

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Re: how introverted are you? [Re: Wise Toad]
    #14350689 - 04/25/11 06:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

No, mescal is a mexican alcoholic beverage.

bridgesii does contain mescaline though.  But it also contains a whole lot of other alkaloids that make it better than ordinary mescaline.

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Re: how introverted are you? [Re: BothHands]
    #14351142 - 04/25/11 07:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Really, hmm. I will have to check both out then. I always thought mescal was short for mescaline since thats how one of my friends used it when talking about different cactus's he was trying to get his hands on(which he never did)

Just looked up mescal, your right there is nothing psychedelic about it. On the other hand I just found a whole bunch of sites selling bridgesii:cactus: As soon as exams are through and summer hits experimentation begins:stirthepot: and by experimentation I of course mean mixing different kinds of psychedelics and testing them out on friends. Gotta be careful with the MAOI aspect tho

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Re: how introverted are you? [Re: Wise Toad]
    #14351481 - 04/25/11 08:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Why test on friends when you can test on yourself?

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Re: how introverted are you? [Re: Wise Toad]
    #14351593 - 04/25/11 08:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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No, mescal is a mexican alcoholic beverage.




I can vouch for this. Drank plenty of it. Mescal is tequila with the worm in it, real tequila.

I've never heard of bridgesii tho.

Last summer at badfish I took shrooms with Molly ,K and mescaline. It was the most amazing experience ever. Had slight bad vibes from the K but it didn't last long. Its just cause I was at the tip of a k hole then snapped out and was tripping balls. I had obliviated oev's. I remember walking through the woods at night peeling my eyes open and all I could see were these mayian/aztec type faces and symbols morphing insanely and I couldn't see anything but that.

Once that seized the mescaline took over and the forest came to life. My blind spot kept moving in front of me and I couldn't find my tent because of this. Every time I'd find it I'd try and walk towards it and POOF it was gone so I just lied there holding on to the tree moving my feet and body in the mud cause it was raining while the forest was breathing coming to life turning into a jungle in ecstasy. It was a very good festival. Best trip of my life.

Sucks a couple months after I tried hbwr and had a bad trip, I laid there cold, sweating and blue for hours without going to the hospital. I couldn't eat for months after, if I tried my nerves would act up horribly. I had some really bad symptoms for a long time I won't go into detail about. For 6 months I did not smile, all I did was lay in bed and hope that tomarro I would feel better. I'm still not perfect yet. I couldnt see a physician for a long time due to no insurance but now that I'm insured I've seen a good physician and now kno my thyroid's out of whack. One of my symptoms are my sex drive being gone, it seems to slightly be coming back now but the thyroid and adrenal gland work closely together.

Sucks but I've learned from it. No more new drugs. I have a good enough selection as is. I'm a lot better then I was when this started tho. I was really bad for a long time, it was really sketchy. I'd stand up out of bed and get so weak immediately, I'd start sweating and feel like I was gonna collapse and that would happen even occasionally when trying to do simple tasks. Felt like I was gonna have heart failure but its not my heart I know it. Just not having the right proteins being through bio-synthesis and stuff like that I think is what cause those problems. It appears my metabolism has been altered. I have to constantly eat thick starchy foods now or I feel fucked up. Thyroids main purpose is to control the bodies metabolism. My tsh was up 8 and t3 was up 1.6 with a normal t4 indicating hyperthyroidsm, opposite of fat people but I see a specialist(endocrinologist) may 4th so not much longer.

Blah sorry for the rant but that's been me for the past 9 months and what I've been coping with. Sucks cause I wanna dose, Haha.


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Re: how introverted are you? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
    #14351795 - 04/25/11 09:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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No, mescal is a mexican alcoholic beverage.




I can vouch for this. Drank plenty of it. Mescal is tequila with the worm in it, real tequila.

I've never heard of bridgesii tho.





Actually, it's not tequila at all.  Although it's also made from agave, it's a different drink.  And it doesn't always have a worm in it either.  The worm originally meant that the mescal was poor quality because the agave was infested at harvest time.  But now the worm is added as a marketing ploy.

And bridgesii is just a type of mescaline containing cacti.  Much like San Pedro, Peruvian Torch, and Peyote.  Bridgesii is the scientific name though, but it's more commonly known as Achuma.

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Re: how introverted are you? [Re: BothHands]
    #14351814 - 04/25/11 09:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

All Mescal I've drank at the bar was tequila with worm. Every time at the bar I ask for "Mescal" instead of patron that's what I get.

I'm familiar with the agavi plant use for fermentation to make tequila.

Didn't know that about the worm tho. I thought all good tequila was from agavi.

Now bridgesii rings a bell tho.


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Re: how introverted are you? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
    #14351852 - 04/25/11 09:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It usually has a worm in it, especially in the US.  It's done as a marketing ploy.  But if you buy mescal in Mexico, you're much less likely to get a worm because the mexicans know it's supposed to indicate poor quality.

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Re: how introverted are you? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
    #14351870 - 04/25/11 09:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

All tequila is made from agave, and all mescal is also made from agave.  But that doesn't mean mescal is tequila. 


I believe mescal is also made from a different type of agave, but I may be mistaken.

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Re: how introverted are you? [Re: BothHands]
    #14352158 - 04/25/11 10:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ill test it out on some friends who come back in town from college. They will pay for their portion of the drug, with only 12 weeks in the summer and tolerance to psyches I will need some lab rats to find out what works best. Believe me I don't plan on missing out but 48 experiments is much better than 12. I found a deal of 4 12" cuttings of bridgesii on amazon. How have you taken these in the past, what was the dosage. Ill look into it on erowid after this, considering I just dont have the time/concentration right now as its taken me 15 minutes to type this far in between a whole bunch of other stuff.

Nutsmcbo: How was K, Iv heard good things from friends but seeing as they only shot it up I didn't want to try.

The HBWR did that to you? Damn man, exactly why I have things lying around now to kill bad trips. Going blue on anything is generally bad:sad: ipecac is my last resort. Its among my favorite drugs, I usually do cold water extractions since the seeds themselves don't go to well with my colon.

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Re: how introverted are you? [Re: Wise Toad]
    #14352256 - 04/25/11 10:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I usually use 2 feet and make a tea.

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Re: how introverted are you? [Re: Wise Toad]
    #14352376 - 04/25/11 10:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Nutsmcbo: How was K, Iv heard good things from friends but seeing as they only shot it up I didn't want to try.

The HBWR did that to you? Damn man, exactly why I have things lying around now to kill bad trips. Going blue on anything is generally bad ipecac is my last resort. Its among my favorite drugs, I usually do cold water extractions since the seeds themselves don't go to well with my colon.





The k was cool. I just blew it but it doesnt take a lot. I was camping at a badish concert for that experience and i have to say it was amazing. I'd like to give the K a shot by itself. It was hard to gauge really what it did. It was kinda like a blur and I had anxiety cause I lost some time and when I came to I was tripping hard so for a few brief seconds I was like WTF, where am i you know. But I really wanna try it again by itself.

Yea man I was surprised those hbwr seeds did that to me. It was really bad man. Pain in my head and all kinds of shit. Idk if I got some seeds that were sprayed or what. The psych effects weren't even that strong BTW if you ask me. Not compared to the physical things I had going on. I'm tough to man, I still don't know what they screwed up yet but I see the specialist in 9 days I'm sure I healed up from most of it by now but Im still not 100% man.

I got the hbwr from iamshaman. I heard they were cool but Idk man. Maybe I just had a really potent batch. I bought the more expensive ones they had, Idk? I couldn't believe those did that to me tho, I mean especially with the other drugs and combinations of psychs I've done and totally been cool with.

As for the k I'm not sure cause I did it and I was already tripping on shrooms for a bit then dozed more shrooms and blew Molly with it and took a dose of mescaline at the same time. After we did everything in the tent we all went walking towards the stage and I don't remember much. I snapped out of it at the stage and my dude was like you k holed, don't worry and that's when i was like whoa cause of the tif of brief anxiety but realized what happened and was cool but after that I saw some crazy visuals. Idk if it was a combination of the K with the shrooms but there's no way the mescaline kicked in yet cause it had only been 20 mins and that's when I was seeing wall to wall oev's. I seriously was peeling my eyeslids open with my hands walking man. I couldn't see anything but the mayian/aztec stuff morphing. It was pretty awesome.

I wanna give k another go by itself. I've taken it easy for the last 9 months since hbwr. They fucked something up and I'm not sure what yet. I tried blazing pot after the experience and I couldn't even really tolerate it. It seems to mess with my nerves, like muscle skeletal type shit. I don't care but it doesn't feel good so I don't now.

I've drank like 3 times cause its the only thing I can tolerate now. I did try dosing mush in like Feb drunk to null it but it wasn't pleasant at all and it was a low dose so I didnt get anything out of it really.

I have a good enough selection of drugs to do that I've already done so once I'm better I have a rule no new drugs now. And I have xanax and ativan that quack docs gave me that I didn't need when I didn't have insurance because when things got real bad like heart failure type symptoms I had to go to the ER. So I do have that now if I ever do dose or someone around me needs it which is a good idea. I'll pick up some ipicac as well for last resort, good thinking :thumbup:

I'm a lot better now tho then I was for that first 6 months so don't worry anyone. I'm almost 100% again but just not quite.


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Re: how introverted are you? [Re: Mr. Anderson]
    #14352863 - 04/26/11 12:06 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

If you weren't getting any mental effects from the HBWR then either they were Specosa or sprayed. True nervosa is very mental but that mental aspect plays heavily into the physical, its hard to explain.

Keep that xanax around, it being a benzo you can use it to terminate bad trips since your still getting back on your feet after that donkey punch of a horrible trip. The ipicac wont cancel a trip if your already into it but it will flush any poison out thats still left in your stomach, so if you feel anything that shouldn't be(poison) quickly use it.

So you snorted the K, I think I could handle that. Never snorted anything before but fuck it; for K I might be willing to try. Of course this will be a one time thing, I cannot risk getting addicted to anything. In the past I have had fun messing with friends who like to snort things. Got one friend to snort hot sauce and another to snort piracetam; Im sure that must have been one brain boosting dose since its a nootropic but damn. Speaking of which, any time I trip/smoke now I swallow a small bit of piracetam and it potentates the hell out of any experience.

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