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Shrewmz

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Haven't taken O Chem, DMT extraction easy?
#14349753 - 04/25/11 03:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Haven't taken O Chem yet.... but would I be able to extract DMT if I followed the instructions of a tek step by step with perfection? Or would I have a high tendency to fuck it up
Tek I wanna use - http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10089233
Edited by Shrewmz (04/25/11 03:42 PM)
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bryguy27007
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Re: Haven't taken O Chem, DMT extraction easy? [Re: Shrewmz]
#14349783 - 04/25/11 03:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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You for sure do not need O-Chem to do a STB extraction. I did an extraction and I haven't even had high school chemistry. It's extremely easy.
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Re: Haven't taken O Chem, DMT extraction easy? [Re: Shrewmz]
#14349787 - 04/25/11 03:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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ha ha, if you know what organic chemistry is you can manage the extraction!
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Shrewmz

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Re: Haven't taken O Chem, DMT extraction easy? [Re: Me_Roy]
#14349799 - 04/25/11 03:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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haha ok, just need a scale! Could it be done without a scale? or is it retarded to even consider doing an extraction without a scale....
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Re: Haven't taken O Chem, DMT extraction easy? [Re: Shrewmz]
#14349902 - 04/25/11 04:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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What do you need a scale for? Maybe a milligram scale to weigh out end product, you don't need a scale for the extraction.
Get gloves and a turkey baster though. I tried to do it without them a while ago because I'm an idiot. I would not recommend it. Keep something on hand to neutralize spills. Wear gloves. Don't be stupid. Keep the area well ventilated. Don't do it next to a flame or source of heat.
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Shrewmz

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Re: Haven't taken O Chem, DMT extraction easy? [Re: bryguy27007]
#14349934 - 04/25/11 04:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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ok I'll make sure I take the necessary precautions heh, thanks for inspiring confidence in me haha
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Re: Haven't taken O Chem, DMT extraction easy? [Re: bryguy27007]
#14349948 - 04/25/11 04:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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bryguy27007 said: What do you need a scale for? Maybe a milligram scale to weigh out end product, you don't need a scale for the extraction.
Get gloves and a turkey baster though. I tried to do it without them a while ago because I'm an idiot. I would not recommend it. Keep something on hand to neutralize spills. Wear gloves. Don't be stupid. Keep the area well ventilated. Don't do it next to a flame or source of heat.
Goggles. I imagine that most people don't get all geared up as they would for a university chemistry lab, but if I were to do an extraction I would wear a lab coat, an apron, gloves, goggles, and a pair of shoes that cover the top of my feet completely. But I'm just paranoid about spilling dangerous things on myself.
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Re: Haven't taken O Chem, DMT extraction easy? [Re: healing]
#14350536 - 04/25/11 05:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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just follow the tek perfectly and youll have DMT. dont deviate from the tek. plan ahead. have everything you need on hand, then do it.
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Re: Haven't taken O Chem, DMT extraction easy? [Re: Ajaxx]
#14350830 - 04/25/11 06:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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BE CAREFUL when adding the lye to water. ALWAYS add the powder to water, and add it in SMALL amounts.
ANY spill should be taken with the utmost seriousness, as a single lye particle landed on my face and I was like well I'll be ok, and it ended up leaving a mark that lasted a week.
You don't need orgo lol. I'm taking orgo right now and I did an extraction before the class... I must say I now know nothing that helps me any further.
To further my ironic plight, though, I must admit that the extraction I'm doing now (while in orgo) has severely screwed up and I'm gonna have to get rid of it ><
I usually do a 1:1 ratio for lye/bark so I use a scale. I add just a little more naphtha than the gram amount of lye or bark.
250 g lye/bark needs about 180-300 ml naphtha per pull. THe lower the better as I've found out... think about saturation there.
If you have specific questions and don't want to make a post, I'm ALWAYS down to help people starting these out. THe past few days I've been reading a lot on these and I am quite knowledgeable.
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Re: Haven't taken O Chem, DMT extraction easy? [Re: Angel_Above]
#14350933 - 04/25/11 07:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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If you don't have a scale use volumetric measurements for the lye and root bark.
If you don't know how much bark your using, I think its generally safer to use too much water and to little naphtha, especially if your using powdered bark because the yields tend to be slightly less than whole/shredded bark.
Good luck!
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All I can add to the great advice you've gotten so far is if you come across an ammonia wash in the STB tek your using leave it out. It's much more trouble than its worth.
Go for it, its super easy.
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Re: Haven't taken O Chem, DMT extraction easy? [Re: vegantoker]
#14351127 - 04/25/11 07:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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vegantoker said: All I can add to the great advice you've gotten so far is if you come across an ammonia wash in the STB tek your using leave it out. It's much more trouble than its worth.
Go for it, its super easy. 
One thing I would personally say is that a recrystallization is definitely worth it...
but the MAIN thing you want to make sure you do is a sodium carbonate wash.
The sodium carbonate is so cheap (I just steal some from the nearest pool store.. there's no covers under the lids so I pinch some in a bag and leave)
put the naphtha in a jar, add a pinch of sodium carbonate and some distilled water (about 1/5 the volume is a good starting point). Shake violently, let sit for 5 minutes, take out the mucky water on the bottom and repeat*
*note - you only need to add the pinch once, but I would suggest doing the water step at least 3 times.
I went from really red/brown naphtha to naphtha that was super pale yellow. I literally had a jaw drop comparing the photos.
It's always worth cleaning the product this will remove any plant fats/insolubles that might end up in the product. Would you rater have a gram of DMT or a .7g of pale yellow or white DMT that is less harsh and more effective?
It's really your call.
And wow man, you really got a lot of good replies. Feel lucky, there's literally DMT posts everyday in this thing haha
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Re: Haven't taken O Chem, DMT extraction easy? [Re: Angel_Above]
#14351244 - 04/25/11 07:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Meh, as long as your careful when pulling the napatha your fine imo. I get pure white dmt crystals 3-5 pulls with STB, the last two are pale yellow. I think I almost like the yellow dmt better. You don't want red because that would mean you sucked up some lye/rootbark water with your napatha and you don't want to do that.
Granted I've never tried the sodium carbonate wash so maybe its awesome. I just don't want him to think his dmt will be dirty without a wash, because if your careful it won't be .
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Shrewmz

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Re: Haven't taken O Chem, DMT extraction easy? [Re: Angel_Above]
#14351410 - 04/25/11 08:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks for all the replies!
@Angel_Above, Thanks for the tip, so pretty much I just follow the steps of the STB tek until I get the purple/reddish solution, then do a sodium carbonate wash and then evaporate from there? Sounds easy enough, and I know how serious strong bases are, played with some in chemistry a couple years back and my friend lost alot of skin on his hands
So if I had 250g of MHRB I could do almost 10 extractions? Sounds like a fun hobby with a great reward!
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Re: Haven't taken O Chem, DMT extraction easy? [Re: Shrewmz]
#14351602 - 04/25/11 08:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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You are going to extract 25g 10 times? Why not do all 250g at once? With a once percent yield you would get a quarter gram of DMT with every extraction. Seems like a work of work for no reason, unless I'm missing something.
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Re: Haven't taken O Chem, DMT extraction easy? [Re: Shrewmz]
#14351611 - 04/25/11 08:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I would do 5. 50g is easy to to work with. Plus you'll get a decent yield per extraction.
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Re: Haven't taken O Chem, DMT extraction easy? [Re: vegantoker]
#14351641 - 04/25/11 08:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ahh, for some reason I thought that it was bad to extract more than 25g at a time... silly me, but I'd probably extract 50g my first time to build up the confidence and go from there
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Re: Haven't taken O Chem, DMT extraction easy? [Re: Shrewmz]
#14352308 - 04/25/11 10:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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extract 100g your first time.... trust me it is awesome to see those snow globes. Use Noman's tek it is pretty straight forward and has never failed me once, after a few extractions you will become the master of it.
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Re: Haven't taken O Chem, DMT extraction easy? [Re: JimLahey]
#14353045 - 04/26/11 12:52 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Maybe that's why I didn't get a good yield when I did it. I did 250 grams at once and didn't have a turkey baster. I need to try again.
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Re: Haven't taken O Chem, DMT extraction easy? [Re: bryguy27007]
#14353235 - 04/26/11 01:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Get a glass turkey baster if you can. It will hold up to the chemicals better. Check your local ace hardware.
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