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 Visigoth
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 clumping always from the bottom of jars 
#1434879 - 04/06/03 11:08 PM (21 years, 15 days ago) |
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Has anyone ever noticed, when u pull ur birdseed jars out of the pc to shake em, it's always that bottom part that tends to stick together and produce clumps. Any reason for this?? Anything u can do to stop it?? Thanks for the info!!!
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Re: clumping always from the bottom of jars [Re: Visigoth]
#1435003 - 04/07/03 12:03 AM (21 years, 15 days ago) |
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No idea what kinda PC ya got............ but...... use a spacer/grate/whatever in the bottom........ so no jars are touching the water. That should resolve the problemo............... 
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Re: clumping always from the bottom of jars [Re: Visigoth]
#1435105 - 04/07/03 01:18 AM (21 years, 15 days ago) |
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Have you ever seen a brf jar that has to much moisture in it? The bottom looks wetter cause the moisture settles a little. Maby that is happening with your birdseed. Just a gess.
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Re: clumping always from the bottom of jars [Re: Visigoth]
#1435962 - 04/07/03 11:39 AM (21 years, 14 days ago) |
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Forgot to add, Are you draining the WBS .....WELL....before loading jars?
By WELL, I mean drain until there is not any water dripping, not a drop.
Also, besides a spacer/grate in the PC bottom to keep the jars out of water (while being PC'ed).
Remove jars from PC while HOT, wear oven mitts & shake the jars. WBS tends to be dry on the jar top & more moist towards the bottom. Shaking while HOT, blends it all togather .............. &..... it works fine.
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Re: clumping always from the bottom of jars [Re: Visigoth]
#1436002 - 04/07/03 11:49 AM (21 years, 14 days ago) |
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mine are sometimes clumpy at the bottom too. it's from a tad too much water.
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Re: clumping always from the bottom of jars [Re: ]
#1436150 - 04/07/03 12:41 PM (21 years, 14 days ago) |
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Yeah, I've not been soaking it before hand. Just weighing the seed/water out, and putting it all in and pc'ing, which has worked really well in the past. It just came out kinda clumpy the other night and I was wondering if their was anything to fix it. If using it to spawn dung u really don't need that much water. Right now the ratio is 248 grams seed:142 grams water, I wonder what the lowest amount of water u could use and still achieve colonization??
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Re: clumping always from the bottom of jars [Re: Visigoth]
#1436321 - 04/07/03 01:38 PM (21 years, 14 days ago) |
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Try it this way.
6T WBS Tek (Wild Bird Seed) Bulk Spawn Preparation Method.
WBS consists primarily of white millet. It is often a combination of white, red millet & milo - with a small percentage of sunflower seeds and sometimes tiny amounts of crushed corn. Some expensive brands are coated with a fungicide. For use as spawn material, treated WBS is not advisable.
You can find untreated WBS in 5 -10 & 20 pound bags, at low prices at most large chain grocery stores, or chain type pet supply stores. For instance, PetsMart has 40 pound bags for around $8.
Simply place whatever quantity you intend to use in a plastic pot, tub or bucket. Bear in mind, dry seed will expand about 20 to 25% - after it absorbs its capacity of water. Add tap water & soak the seed overnight. A 8 to 12 hour soak is fine. Seed soaked longer will begin to ferment. But, is still usable after soaking 24 to 36 hours.
There is no need to remove any floating husks, or sunflower seeds. These add lignin ( a good thing) & do not harbor any more possible contams than does the millet. It is all going to get thoroughly sterilized - anyway.
Once soaked, simply rinse the seed very thoroughly in a colander, or strainer. Then allow it to drain - WELL. As in 30 or more minutes. If it is drips - one drop. It is not drained - WELL.
Load pint or quart jars ? full, apply internal filter disk, material, polyfil or whatever method you use allow gas exchange through a ? or 3/8 inch hole in the lid. Screw lid on tight & back it off ? turn. Place a double layer of paper coffee filters over the lid & jar top, held down by a thick rubber band. Place the jars in the PC.
PC at 15 pounds for a full 60 minutes. 90 minutes is better, if you have the time. Allow the PC pressure to drop to zero & let it cool a bit. Open while still hot & remove jars. The paper coffee filters will dry almost instantly, when the PC is opened. Tighten lids (if necessary), shake jars to insure there are no clumps of seed inside. Place jars inside the oven on a rack, to cool, overnight. External coffee filters simply add another layer of protection to the jars content.
Once cooled to room temperature, store in a clean cardboard box - until used. Using them sooner than later is preferable. Note: This method was done in an All American PC. Some brands with a weighted pressure system require more internal water & it may be advisable to also cover the coffee filters with tin foil- while PC'ing, so no excess boiling water gains entry into the jars. Simply remove the tinfoil when you remove the jars from the PC.
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