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OfflinejivJaN
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Compulsive Lying and Psychotherapy
    #14313847 - 04/18/11 08:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I was just thinking about my mother and how she could possibly benefit from seeing a shrink. She's under a lot of stress constantly , has a hard time completely relaxing and she sleeps so lightly i'm amazed how someone like that hasn't completely lost their marbles yet.
I mean.. even the tiniest sound can wake her up and her reaction is one of panic.
Ill go in there to grab a lighter if mine dies or smthn along those lines and she'll suddenly wake up in fear

" What are you doing sneaking around here !!?!?? You almost gave me a heart attack ! "

anyhow... as i was thinking about her paying a visit to a decent shrink that would play the listener role , it came to my mind that the whole process might not even prove to be beneficial. She would lie about so many things.

Feel free to share any thoughts or experiences related to this topic.
I have lots of questions but maybe you will answer some of them before i even ask.

:bigjoint:


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All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional.
They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively.
I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life  and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal.
If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..

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Re: Compulsive Lying and Psychotherapy [Re: jivJaN]
    #14313862 - 04/18/11 09:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

That is certainly a tricky situation.  Compulsive lying is hard to get over.  However, a Shrink is professionally trained and experienced in these situations.  If you inform the shrink about her issues, he/she will work the right angle and prove to be greatly beneficial!  Good luck to you and your mother.  I do now know if your religious or not, but I will certainly send some prayers your way.


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Re: Compulsive Lying and Psychotherapy [Re: Eat LSD]
    #14314966 - 04/19/11 12:08 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Indeed.

My mother has problems as well a bit paranoid. Always stressed, worries about everything.

I tell her to relax which last about 2 days I just gave up. I ignore her half the time.

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Re: Compulsive Lying and Psychotherapy [Re: jivJaN]
    #14317724 - 04/19/11 02:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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jivJaN said:
I was just thinking about my mother and how she could possibly benefit from seeing a shrink. She's under a lot of stress constantly , has a hard time completely relaxing and she sleeps so lightly i'm amazed how someone like that hasn't completely lost their marbles yet.
I mean.. even the tiniest sound can wake her up and her reaction is one of panic.
Ill go in there to grab a lighter if mine dies or smthn along those lines and she'll suddenly wake up in fear

" What are you doing sneaking around here !!?!?? You almost gave me a heart attack ! "

anyhow... as i was thinking about her paying a visit to a decent shrink that would play the listener role , it came to my mind that the whole process might not even prove to be beneficial. She would lie about so many things.

Feel free to share any thoughts or experiences related to this topic.
I have lots of questions but maybe you will answer some of them before i even ask.

:bigjoint:




Well, if she's going there convinced by someone else, there are even less chances for her to be honest and try to help herself. Of course, she might also start feeling better without actually resolving the actual conflict. IMO, anything is better than feeling bad - even a more care-free attitude without any resolution of the core problem. And who knows, maybe in time she would even be interested in changing something on a deeper level.


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Re: Compulsive Lying and Psychotherapy [Re: jivJaN] * 1
    #14331656 - 04/22/11 03:39 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

you have to learn to move silently and in slow motion.
also how to pick up objects without any noise at all.
practice
stealth is one of the healing arts.


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Re: Compulsive Lying and Psychotherapy [Re: redgreenvines]
    #14332974 - 04/22/11 11:46 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

if you can get her to read Handbook to Higher Consciousness by Ken Keyes
that might help. it might help a lot.


seriously take redgreenvines' advice here very seriously

maybe watch Being There with Peter Sellers - the main character does what redgreenvines is talking about

the reflections of you handling yourself and what is around you are people and animals and thus
when you experience yourself handling things that experience is you
(all that you touch, all that you see.. is all your life (you) will ever be)
be gentle
you will then become more sensitive to this truth and
it will permeate your being (in handling and maybe stillness too)

Edited by Ferdinando (04/22/11 11:58 AM)

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Re: Compulsive Lying and Psychotherapy [Re: Ferdinando]
    #14341451 - 04/23/11 11:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

@Red, 1+

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Re: Compulsive Lying and Psychotherapy [Re: jivJaN]
    #14343573 - 04/24/11 01:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

jivJaN said:
I was just thinking about my mother and how she could possibly benefit from seeing a shrink. She's under a lot of stress constantly , has a hard time completely relaxing and she sleeps so lightly i'm amazed how someone like that hasn't completely lost their marbles yet.
I mean.. even the tiniest sound can wake her up and her reaction is one of panic.
Ill go in there to grab a lighter if mine dies or smthn along those lines and she'll suddenly wake up in fear

" What are you doing sneaking around here !!?!?? You almost gave me a heart attack ! "

anyhow... as i was thinking about her paying a visit to a decent shrink that would play the listener role , it came to my mind that the whole process might not even prove to be beneficial. She would lie about so many things.

Feel free to share any thoughts or experiences related to this topic.
I have lots of questions but maybe you will answer some of them before i even ask.

:bigjoint:





The old Freudian techniques of psychoanalysis would expect the underlying issues to emerge regardless of her lying. Idea being that there is no way to hide what is beneath it all. The lies themselves would reveal as much as non-lies, because there is likely pathology driving the lying.

It's also the least practiced, most time consuming and expensive form of psychological treatment around. I doubt insurance would cover it.


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Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain

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Re: Compulsive Lying and Psychotherapy [Re: Kickle]
    #14347088 - 04/25/11 01:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

seems like your a good son and want the best for her, my advice would be to completely accept her for who she is, there is nothing more beneficial a person can do than to be the one person in their life who doesnt judge them AT ALL. everyone is innocent when you really think about it we're all just trying to be happy the best way we know how, no matter how much it doesnt seem like it sometimes. no matter how manipulative or lazy or cowardly a person seems underneath it they wish they could be strong and humble and honest. just try it just be completely nonjudgemental especially when shes at her worst which is when youll see the effect the most. try to see your own faults in her and see her fighting the urge not to do or say the right thing you can often see in their face when the urge wins. and last but most important, if they take advantage of your nonjudgment and milk it for all its worth, fight the urge to give up and go that one last step further and be nonjudgemental even of that. if you view an issue in someone,(like pathological lying), as its own separate entity which just wants an unconditional audience it will resolve itself as soon as it gets that even for one second as long as it is complete non judgement. just follow through all the way and i promise it will help!


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Re: Compulsive Lying and Psychotherapy [Re: zoomfan]
    #14347572 - 04/25/11 05:37 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

great post zoomfan
I have been doing something like that with my mother today after watching some film of me and family from when I was 11
most if not all of us used to be better like.. better examples
less hung-up about perceived flaws, more free-spirited

it works like a charm on people
I don't think we can stop the rolling boulder of people's habitual reactions, but we can soften it

Edited by Ferdinando (04/25/11 05:40 AM)

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Re: Compulsive Lying and Psychotherapy [Re: Ferdinando]
    #14350260 - 04/25/11 05:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

thanks ferdinando, i agree, and softening it is often enough to save a relationship and both be a bit more happy fortunately!


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