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Re: does shoplifting matter? do you look down on shoplifters? [Re: AntiEverything] * 1
    #14350378 - 04/25/11 05:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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i love how you exclude even the notion of what he is saying while insulting him at the same time.




Sometimes the direct path is the correct path.


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Re: does shoplifting matter? do you look down on shoplifters? [Re: AntiEverything]
    #14350383 - 04/25/11 05:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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i love how you exclude even the notion of what he is saying while insulting him at the same time. oppressive education regimes have prevailed




its like scientists who refuse to debate with religious people about evolution vs creationism on tv. when you put someone who is actually speaking about a legitimate topic side by side with an idiot, you make the idiot look like they have merit.


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Re: does shoplifting matter? do you look down on shoplifters? [Re: Silversoul] * 3
    #14350387 - 04/25/11 05:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

How can any of you look down on petty theft when supporting a system based on global theft and fraud?

The hypocrisy and idiocy is astounding.

:facepalm:



Unless you are living in an eco commune or completely out of the commerce system then NONE of you have the right to say jack shit about a shoplifter.


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Re: does shoplifting matter? do you look down on shoplifters? [Re: owls]
    #14350389 - 04/25/11 05:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Stealing in need is horrible to have to do but if you really have to I don't think anyone would blame you.

People who steal out of greed are assholes.

Torrenting isn't stealing IMO.


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Re: does shoplifting matter? do you look down on shoplifters? [Re: nice1]
    #14350391 - 04/25/11 05:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

What system is that?


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Re: does shoplifting matter? do you look down on shoplifters? [Re: nice1]
    #14350392 - 04/25/11 05:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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nice1 said:
How can any of you look down on petty theft when supporting a system based on global theft and fraud?

The hypocrisy and idiocy is astounding.

:facepalm:




Uhmm I look down on global theft and fraud also.

Damn is that hard to understand?


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Re: does shoplifting matter? do you look down on shoplifters? [Re: AntiEverything]
    #14350397 - 04/25/11 05:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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AntiEverything said:
haha good one owls

i think it is justifiable to steal when necessary, i never do it though because it is rarely necessary in america.



Go up to a church any church, even a mosque and theyll give you tons of free food- Pounds of drumsticks, lunch meat, snacks and drinks.  My buddy (whose family is broke as fuck) told me, "there is absolutely no reason to go hungry in America."  Anytime a bum asks him for cash for food, he tells them go to the church on ----.  They always get super pissed.


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Re: does shoplifting matter? do you look down on shoplifters? [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
    #14350399 - 04/25/11 05:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

name calling is uncalled for man, i'm not an idiot :sad:


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Re: does shoplifting matter? do you look down on shoplifters? [Re: 4runner]
    #14350402 - 04/25/11 05:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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anunnakian said:
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nice1 said:
How can any of you look down on petty theft when supporting a system based on global theft and fraud?

The hypocrisy and idiocy is astounding.

:facepalm:




Uhmm I look down on global theft and fraud also.

Damn is that hard to understand?




Clearly for some... it is.


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Re: does shoplifting matter? do you look down on shoplifters? [Re: nice1]
    #14350404 - 04/25/11 05:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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nice1 said:
How can any of you look down on petty theft when supporting a system based on global theft and fraud?

The hypocrisy and idiocy is astounding.

:facepalm:



What makes you think you have the slightest clue about what system I support?

The arrogance and presumptuousness is astounding.

:huxleyfacepalm:


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Re: does shoplifting matter? do you look down on shoplifters? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #14350405 - 04/25/11 05:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

so lets say you live in a village and the richest man in town has pilfered all the bread and is hoarding it for himself

justifiable to steal bred for the rest of the village or not?

im looking at this from a purely philosophical standpoint




under the parameters of capitalism that is how the game actually works, i dont give what anyone says, thats what the fatcats are doing to all of us- hoarding resources based upon greed.

edit: i agree that you should never go hungry in america. there is always food for you.

edit#2: the levels of closed mindedness on the shroomery is at an all time high today. stop jumping on owls for his opinion, it makes us look bad as a whole TBH

edit#3: someone who completely denies the possibility of god does not, philosophically, understand what a god is.


Edited by AntiEverything (04/25/11 05:40 PM)


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Re: does shoplifting matter? do you look down on shoplifters? [Re: 4runner]
    #14350411 - 04/25/11 05:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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anunnakian said:
Quote:

nice1 said:
How can any of you look down on petty theft when supporting a system based on global theft and fraud?

The hypocrisy and idiocy is astounding.

:facepalm:




Uhmm I look down on global theft and fraud also.

Damn is that hard to understand?




yet you are supporting it and playing your role in it?  :facepalm:  or do you live in a commune and grow all your own food and have no money?


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Re: does shoplifting matter? do you look down on shoplifters? [Re: AntiEverything]
    #14350415 - 04/25/11 05:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

AntiEverything said:
so lets say you live in a village and the richest man in town has pilfered all the bread and is hoarding it for himself

justifiable to steal bred for the rest of the village or not?

im looking at this from a purely philosophical standpoint




under the parameters of capitalism that is how the game actually works, i dont give what anyone says, thats what the fatcats are doing to all of us- hoarding resources based upon greed.




the main difference is that they didnt steal your resources. you paid them money for their resources, and now youre complaining that they have the money.

if you dont like them having your money, dont buy their stuff. :omgz:


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Re: does shoplifting matter? do you look down on shoplifters? [Re: 4runner]
    #14350414 - 04/25/11 05:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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anunnakian said:
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In the grand scheme of things, claims of possession don't matter.



In the grand scheme..... now what does that mean exactly? I surly won't need it when I die, I'll give you that.

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If you can't defend your things from thieves than that is your problem.



So you like to prey on the weak. You sound like like a great person.




Prey that gets caught is weak by definition. Spare me the moral lecture, I don't steal. But if you get stolen from, its because you were too easy to steal from. That is what life is all about. If someone takes your girlfriend its because you weren't good enough. If someone gets the job you wanted its because you weren't good enough. If someone steals from you its because you weren't good enough. Whining about it won't change anything.


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Re: does shoplifting matter? do you look down on shoplifters? [Re: Silversoul]
    #14350419 - 04/25/11 05:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Silversoul said:
Quote:

nice1 said:
How can any of you look down on petty theft when supporting a system based on global theft and fraud?

The hypocrisy and idiocy is astounding.

:facepalm:



What makes you think you have the slightest clue about what system I support?

The arrogance and presumptuousness is astounding.

:huxleyfacepalm:




Because unless you don't have any money and live in an eco commune then you are supporting the same system as I am.

I'm willing to bet by the fact you have a computer with net access that you used money or stole.  :lol:


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Re: does shoplifting matter? do you look down on shoplifters? [Re: AntiEverything]
    #14350422 - 04/25/11 05:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

AntiEverything said:
so lets say you live in a village and the richest man in town has pilfered all the bread and is hoarding it for himself

justifiable to steal bred for the rest of the village or not?

im looking at this from a purely philosophical standpoint




under the parameters of capitalism that is how the game actually works, i dont give what anyone says, thats what the fatcats are doing to all of us- hoarding resources based upon greed.




No. If he has pilfered the bread that all of you need to survive, notify law enforcement.

If the fatcats are stealing from you, you are dealing with the wrong fatcats.


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Re: does shoplifting matter? do you look down on shoplifters? [Re: nice1]
    #14350428 - 04/25/11 05:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Because unless you don't have any money and live in an eco commune then you are supporting the same system as I am.



And if you do the things you mention, then you're doing nothing to help.  And if you steal, you're just making it worse.  Meanwhile, I actually do things to try and change the system from within.


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Re: does shoplifting matter? do you look down on shoplifters? [Re: psilyguy]
    #14350431 - 04/25/11 05:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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psilyguy said:
Quote:

anunnakian said:
Quote:

psilyguy said:
In the grand scheme of things, claims of possession don't matter.



In the grand scheme..... now what does that mean exactly? I surly won't need it when I die, I'll give you that.

Quote:

psilyguy said:
If you can't defend your things from thieves than that is your problem.



So you like to prey on the weak. You sound like like a great person.




Prey that gets caught is weak by definition. Spare me the moral lecture, I don't steal. But if you get stolen from, its because you were too easy to steal from. That is what life is all about. If someone takes your girlfriend its because you weren't good enough. If someone gets the job you wanted its because you weren't good enough. If someone steals from you its because you weren't good enough. Whining about it won't change anything.




So it's the victims fault?

:whatever:


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Re: does shoplifting matter? do you look down on shoplifters? [Re: Silversoul]
    #14350438 - 04/25/11 05:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

What are those things?

Ad hom attacks on internet confessed shoplifters doesn't count :tongue:


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Re: does shoplifting matter? do you look down on shoplifters? [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #14350439 - 04/25/11 05:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

psilyguy said:
Quote:

anunnakian said:
Quote:

psilyguy said:
In the grand scheme of things, claims of possession don't matter.



In the grand scheme..... now what does that mean exactly? I surly won't need it when I die, I'll give you that.

Quote:

psilyguy said:
If you can't defend your things from thieves than that is your problem.



So you like to prey on the weak. You sound like like a great person.




Prey that gets caught is weak by definition. Spare me the moral lecture, I don't steal. But if you get stolen from, its because you were too easy to steal from. That is what life is all about. If someone takes your girlfriend its because you weren't good enough. If someone gets the job you wanted its because you weren't good enough. If someone steals from you its because you weren't good enough. Whining about it won't change anything.




So it's the victims fault?

:whatever:





i once raped a girl because she was too weak to get away. :thumbup: not my problem. the courts totally let me free and put her in jail for being a weak bitch.


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