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AntiEverything
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Re: should we let shell drill in the arctic? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14350143 - 04/25/11 04:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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polar bears are key to biodiversity
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JT


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Re: should we let shell drill in the arctic? [Re: twighead]
#14350152 - 04/25/11 04:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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yeah, i have a family member at AEP. i have to hear about the monumentally stupid regulations all the time.
biomass fuels? lol. they've been so effective. that great corn ethanol some gas stations were carrying for a while? wasn't any cheaper than gas, came with its own environmental problems, and drove food prices up.
the environmental cost of drilling is negligible unless you have a huge fuck up and spill like in the gulf. how often does that happen though?
we are going to drill for that oil eventually no matter what. be it ten, 15 years from now, it's gonna get drilled when supplies start running drying up (as the rest of alaska is right now). go ahead stop driving and using electricity, otherwise you're just being hypocrites.
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AntiEverything
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Re: should we let shell drill in the arctic? [Re: JT] 1
#14350188 - 04/25/11 04:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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good point, lets keep testing the limits of ecological diversity while greenwashing our culture with non-inherent fixes like 15% ethonol mixes in gasoline preperations and drilling for oil in places that are already losing biodiversity because of climate change.... oh and guess what we are excluding the possibility that we might not drill with our political rhetoric even tho we know that oil isn't sustainable and never will be 
brilliant
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Re: should we let shell drill in the arctic? [Re: AntiEverything]
#14350192 - 04/25/11 04:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I would love to drive across the US and just see acre's and acre's of hemp
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Re: should we let shell drill in the arctic? [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#14350217 - 04/25/11 05:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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blewmeanie said: I really don't think we need an oil spill in the arctic.
why not, it's a frozen wasteland 11.9mos out of the year
That's exactly why. It would be almost impossible to deal with an oil spill in the arctic.
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Re: should we let shell drill in the arctic? [Re: blewmeanie]
#14350225 - 04/25/11 05:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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anyone see the South Park about the BP spill? i think we should just start to curtail are dependence on oil now.
"we're sorry...
sorry...
sorry.."
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Re: should we let shell drill in the arctic? [Re: JT]
#14350363 - 04/25/11 05:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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JT said: yeah, i have a family member at AEP. i have to hear about the monumentally stupid regulations all the time.
biomass fuels? lol. they've been so effective. that great corn ethanol some gas stations were carrying for a while? wasn't any cheaper than gas, came with its own environmental problems, and drove food prices up.
the environmental cost of drilling is negligible unless you have a huge fuck up and spill like in the gulf. how often does that happen though?
we are going to drill for that oil eventually no matter what. be it ten, 15 years from now, it's gonna get drilled when supplies start running drying up (as the rest of alaska is right now). go ahead stop driving and using electricity, otherwise you're just being hypocrites.
You're not actually listening to anything we've said. We know oil is here and now and needed, but that doesn't mean we can't ween ourselves off of dependance. I have no apologies for these regulations, without them our environment would be destroyed, bar none.
Corn ethanol is a failure, that's a given, but it isn't our only option. If you don't already know, Henry Ford built his first cars to run on Hemp and Hemp mixtures. Other than hemp, there are countless other alternatives being developed to curb our appetite. People like you are holding us back because, "why move forward when we can drill?"
And don't get me started on fuel prices and these "oil spills." Negligible my ass, tell that to all the people who are sick or dead because of the chemical dispersants BP used, Corexit is killing people.
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Re: should we let shell drill in the arctic? [Re: JT]
#14350370 - 04/25/11 05:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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JT said: yeah, i have a family member at AEP. i have to hear about the monumentally stupid regulations all the time.
biomass fuels? lol. they've been so effective. that great corn ethanol some gas stations were carrying for a while? wasn't any cheaper than gas, came with its own environmental problems, and drove food prices up.
you're leaving out an important fact that hemp is a much more viable source for biofuel than corn being that hemp's much easier to grow, can be harvested a few times a year, is easier to ship, and on top of all that produces more fuel in the end.
you're right about the price of biofuel's not currently being any cheaper than the gas we currently use, but you also aren't considering the fact that 5-10 years down the road the price we're paying for gas will probably be closer to 6-7$ a gallon, while the price of biofuels will remain about the same as what it costs now. PLUS since many people don't even know about using hemp for bio-fuel there isn't a very large amount of farmers growing hemp because there isn't much of a market for it currently.
the longer we see increases in gas prices the more curious people will be about alternatives to fuels, and hopefully the knowledge on hemp based bio fuels will expand and we can have more people farming hemp and producing bio fuels than we have drilling oil. and at the same time more people will begin to switch to bio-fuels creating a larger market giving farmers more of a reason to keep producing hemp, possibly even driving the price down- because the fact is that ANYONE can grow and produce hemp in their own backyard. now i don't know how easy it is to convert it to biofuels, but the more people learn about hemp for bio fuel we will possibly have an overabundance of hemp to be used for fuel.
now i'm not extremely knowledgable on this subject by any means, but it's pretty easy to see how much greater the possibilities are for our society to use hemp based bio fuels over fossil fuels.
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Re: should we let shell drill in the arctic? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14350382 - 04/25/11 05:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Kada said: I don't think we should drill anywhere.
We could totally live without oil.
buggies need oil for their axles
I was playing a new version of Oregon Trails, I Learned you could also use Buffalo fat... oh wait. Maybe that won't work.
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Re: should we let shell drill in the arctic? [Re: 4runner]
#14350471 - 04/25/11 05:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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lunar nuke reactors beaming microwave energy to dishes on earth the way to go
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twighead
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Re: should we let shell drill in the arctic? [Re: 4runner]
#14350576 - 04/25/11 06:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Kada said: I don't think we should drill anywhere.
We could totally live without oil.
buggies need oil for their axles
I was playing a new version of Oregon Trails, I Learned you could also use Buffalo fat... oh wait. Maybe that won't work.
Not to be off topic but, new oregon trail!?
That shit was like the original first person shooter.
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Re: should we let shell drill in the arctic? [Re: twighead]
#14350607 - 04/25/11 06:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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twighead said: Not to be off topic but, new oregon trail!?
That shit was like the original first person shooter.
Its pretty retarded, got it in some ipod app torrent.
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Re: should we let shell drill in the arctic? [Re: 4runner]
#14350773 - 04/25/11 06:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Oh but the idea... whether the game is retarded or not, almost makes me want to go get it.
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Prisoner#1
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Re: should we let shell drill in the arctic? [Re: blewmeanie]
#14350857 - 04/25/11 06:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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blewmeanie said: I really don't think we need an oil spill in the arctic.
why not, it's a frozen wasteland 11.9mos out of the year
That's exactly why. It would be almost impossible to deal with an oil spill in the arctic.
wait for it to freeze, take the ice pick to it and sweep up the pieces
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Re: should we let shell drill in the arctic? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14350864 - 04/25/11 06:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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wait for it to freeze, take the ice pick to it and sweep up the pieces
oil actually freezes? 
if anything a massive oil spill in the arctic would only speed up the melting of major polar icecaps n sech
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Re: should we let shell drill in the arctic? [Re: 4runner]
#14350873 - 04/25/11 06:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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anunnakian said:
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Kada said: I don't think we should drill anywhere.
We could totally live without oil.
buggies need oil for their axles
I was playing a new version of Oregon Trails, I Learned you could also use Buffalo fat... oh wait. Maybe that won't work.
right... you'll die of dysentery
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Re: should we let shell drill in the arctic? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14350895 - 04/25/11 07:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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blewmeanie said: I really don't think we need an oil spill in the arctic.
why not, it's a frozen wasteland 11.9mos out of the year
That's exactly why. It would be almost impossible to deal with an oil spill in the arctic.
wait for it to freeze, take the ice pick to it and sweep up the pieces
You better be trollin.
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Re: should we let shell drill in the arctic? [Re: 4runner]
#14350921 - 04/25/11 07:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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anunnakian said: Dude it's the arctic I say go for. I won't ever live there. They can have Africa to.
Not in my backyard! I don't give a fuck!
what a terrible attitude to adopt.
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Prisoner#1
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Re: should we let shell drill in the arctic? [Re: blewmeanie]
#14350947 - 04/25/11 07:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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4runner


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Re: should we let shell drill in the arctic? [Re: McTwist]
#14350958 - 04/25/11 07:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's more in jest, but yet still pretty true. That is how pretty much everyone thinks.
Like the dead senator that wanted wind power to save the world but not where they wanted to do it because he like to sail. 
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And dammit pris don't, don't say shit like that, I was doing good on that game. Now the next time I try it little Jimmie is gonna die.
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nice troll face lol.
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