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Religions that you actually like.
    #14349727 - 04/25/11 03:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I was raised by close-minded Christians, and when I became a hardcore atheist about two years ago, I decided that I disliked ALL religion (even though I didn't know much about religions that weren't Abrahamic.)

Nowadays I'm not an atheist and I enjoy a lot of Eastern religions. Buddhism, Hinduism, etc, are awesome to study and they can easily mesh with science.

What religions (or philosophies) do you enjoy studying and applying to your life?

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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: ROFL_my_ WAFFLE]
    #14349742 - 04/25/11 03:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Taoism, Buddhism, Hinduism.

I think that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam can also mesh with science though.

I try to be open in my approach to all religions- Baha'i style, I guess.


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: ROFL_my_ WAFFLE]
    #14349745 - 04/25/11 03:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)



Most eastern religion is cool also; Taoism, buddhism, hinduism, jainism etc whatnot

Shintoism too


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: propensity]
    #14349775 - 04/25/11 03:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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What is that? :Feelstrippyman:


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: ROFL_my_ WAFFLE]
    #14349778 - 04/25/11 03:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Neopaganism is compeletely inclusive of science.


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: ROFL_my_ WAFFLE]
    #14349781 - 04/25/11 03:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yggdrasil

Oh shit, the pic in Wikipedia is way cooler



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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: ROFL_my_ WAFFLE] * 1
    #14349785 - 04/25/11 03:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Discordianism. :smoker:


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: The_Ghost]
    #14349812 - 04/25/11 03:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I don't particularly like any religion as a form of organised group of faith. I do enjoy all religion though, but when taken into the context of a mythological story, eg. seeing the Bible as equivalent to Greek mythology or something. But to be honest, anything that isn't Scientology is ok in my books.


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: The_Ghost]
    #14349838 - 04/25/11 03:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Taoism, Buddhism. Haven't looked into Hinduism at all.

I'm right on with buddhism except for what seems like one of the main foundations of it. The whole reincarnation thing. I don't care to speculate exactly what happens when I die, I just feel that I will be somewhere. Almost if this body is a machine that my soul or spirit is remote controlling for the time.

I don't know if I even beleive that. Who knows.

I do know that I like the philosophy, but the reincarnation thing I'm not sure about. I take nothing on faith. I question even the masters like they said to do.

"Don't blindly believe what I say. Don't believe me because others convince you of my words. Don't believe anything you see, read, or hear from others, whether of authority, religious teachers or texts. Don't rely on logic alone, nor speculation. Don't infer or be deceived by appearances."

I'm down with Taoism and Buddhism. I have studied them both for a few years now but I'm not sure if I would consider myself either. Like I said, I take nothing by faith. I only know what makes sense logically to me. I can accept ideas, but I won't make beliefs out of them.


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: ROFL_my_ WAFFLE]
    #14349846 - 04/25/11 03:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Pretty much every religion has forms of it that I like and don't like.  Christianity has a lot more depth to it than what you get in your average Southern Baptist or Pentecostal church.  I enjoy learning some of the deep mysteries and profound theological ideas that lie within the tradition.  My understanding of Christianity has also been enriched by exploring Judaism and particularly the mysteries of the Kabbalah.  And lately, I've been on a quest to learn more about Islam.  I've been to a mosque before, and I find their form of prayer and worship to be particularly powerful.  I've also seen Qawalli performances(a form of Sufi devotional singing) and really enjoyed it.

I really like all world religions, but I'd say I like exploring the Abrahamic traditions more, simply because they get so dismissively bashed by supposedly open-minded hippies.


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: ROFL_my_ WAFFLE]
    #14349857 - 04/25/11 04:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i would consider my metaphysical view to be loosely gnostic christian with elements of rosicrucianism, kabbalistic magick and eastern philosophy. i probably wouldn't ever proclaim myself to be aligned with any particular church or tradtion though. it's just the best way to describe how the world seems to work to me, and that opinion changes as i grow anyway.

i'm fascinated with the abrahamic faiths at a scholarly level. while i may not agree with everything they have to say, reading guys like augustine and thomas aquinas has undoubtedly enriched my understanding of the christian tradition. i would like to learn more about islam, especially suffism (and suffi poetry in particular) and the mystical side of judaism. the eastern traditions have a lot to offer as well.

i really just enjoy studying religion and mythology. i do find fundamentalist stuff difficult to take seriously on any level though, and unfortunately that leads me to holding prejudiced opinions against people who hold such views. even with scholarly christianity i have intellectual reservations about things like incarnation and the notion of god being separate from nature.


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: Silversoul]
    #14349901 - 04/25/11 04:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Pretty every religion has forms of it that I like and don't like.  Christianity has a lot more depth to it than what you get in your average Southern Baptist or Pentecostal church.  I enjoy learning some of the deep mysteries and profound theological ideas that lie within the tradition. 

I really like all world religions, but I'd say I like exploring the Abrahamic traditions more, simply because they get so dismissively bashed by supposedly open-minded hippies.




I absolutely agree with this.  I'm an Agnostic myself, but am deeply interested in all religions on an intellectual level.  I feel that religion is part of the universal human experience; It doesn't matter that I don't believe because the vast majority of the masses do, and to many of them it is the single most important facet of their existence.

I was raised as a very casual Lutheran, I still go on Holidays if I am home to make my mother happy.  It doesn't bother me at all, my disbelief isn't militant at all and I see no harm in accommodating her on something so small as that.

I've taken quite a few religious history courses during my college career, all as electives (I have a Geophysics degree!), but all with the intention of gaining a deeper understanding of the respective beliefs of their adherents, and early Christian history is one of my favorites.  There are whole other interpretations of symbolism that one doesn't realize until exposed to it, from the apostle Peter being the rock (Petros) of the early Church to the common "fish" symbol having arisen because it was easy for early Christians to trace with their feet in the dirt to identify with one another.

I also love religious architecture, of all kinds.  I've been to many of the most remarkable buildings of different faiths and am never without a sense of awe at the time and work poured into them.


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #14349969 - 04/25/11 04:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

buddhism and taoism are cool


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    #14350147 - 04/25/11 04:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I've considered myself a Taoist almost as soon as i hit the teen years though martial arts studies, but lost my way for quite a long time afterwards. Now I'm nearing 25 and after a few mushroom trips last year the Way naturally started applying itself again. :hug:

In the recent years though, Buddhism, Hinduism, and Krishna Consciousness have all intrigued me greatly.

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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: ROFL_my_ WAFFLE] * 1
    #14350348 - 04/25/11 05:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

None of them. However, I've known a lot of good individuals that where part of all different kinds of religions.


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: ROFL_my_ WAFFLE]
    #14350393 - 04/25/11 05:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: Mello Kitty] * 1
    #14350436 - 04/25/11 05:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

religion is dildos


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: Salomon]
    #14350609 - 04/25/11 06:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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religion is dildos



I heard that in Skwisgaar's voice.


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: ROFL_my_ WAFFLE]
    #14350692 - 04/25/11 06:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I think all good love based religions/spirituality date back to  :mushroom2:  :mushroomgrow:  :shroomer:  :shroomin:  :deemsters:  :psychsplit:  :trippinballs:  :tripping:

Here are some that I like some aspects of: Rastafari, Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, Mysticism, ect...


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: 28064212]
    #14350775 - 04/25/11 06:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Sikhism Buddhism Hinduism Taoism & Zoroastrianism


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: Envix]
    #14350831 - 04/25/11 06:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i respect Buddhism


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: ROFL_my_ WAFFLE]
    #14350846 - 04/25/11 06:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I respect the 'religion' and philosophies of Bruce Lee which tie in pretty closely with buddhism and taoism



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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: ROFL_my_ WAFFLE]
    #14350967 - 04/25/11 07:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Which religion tolerates and promotes the use of psychedelics, says that the sun is the source of life and that there is an explanation for everything?

Something like a drugged up version of gnostic monism but what exactly would this be :strokebeard2:


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: Shroomism]
    #14487527 - 05/20/11 11:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I respect the 'religion' and philosophies of Bruce Lee which tie in pretty closely with buddhism and taoism







Bruce Lee has his own religion? I'm down.


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: smurf_master]
    #14487544 - 05/20/11 11:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i like the Baha'i ideals that all religions were purposed, righteously, by and as messengers of truth.

and that all religions are of and about the same ideals.


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #14487623 - 05/21/11 12:10 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Except that one where you smoke alot of weed.


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #14487629 - 05/21/11 12:12 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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i like the Baha'i ideals that all religions were purposed, righteously, by and as messengers of truth.

and that all religions are of and about the same ideals.




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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: smurf_master]
    #14487665 - 05/21/11 12:21 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Except that one where you smoke alot of weed.



even that one. one can abstain from substances or not... doesn't effect your staying in the faith. all religions are one, according to their teachings. :shrug:


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #14487686 - 05/21/11 12:25 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Atheism is the only religion I like.

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    #14487698 - 05/21/11 12:27 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I believe in nothing except nihilism. 

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    #14487710 - 05/21/11 12:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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    #14487721 - 05/21/11 12:33 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I believe in nothing except nihilism. 

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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #14487748 - 05/21/11 12:41 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

As long as you are defining religion as anything with a tax exempt status I don't think all religions are equal or one at all.


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    #14487763 - 05/21/11 12:44 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Don't judge me just because I slack in the sacred halls of Bob.


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: blewmeanie]
    #14489129 - 05/21/11 10:47 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I try to respect every religion or at least every believer as long as they don't try to convert me.

I don't specially like any since I don't identify myself with any, and I think the world would be a better place without it.


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: ROFL_my_ WAFFLE]
    #14489254 - 05/21/11 11:24 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You don't need to label yourself.  Just be open minded.

I aint joining any cults.  I dont need any labels.


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: nice1]
    #14490536 - 05/21/11 05:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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You don't need to label yourself.  Just be open minded.

I aint joining any cults.  I dont need any labels.



You do need labels to intelligently engage with other people on your views. Else it will be many many long discussions to even begin to explain your way of making sense of the world spiritually


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    #14490888 - 05/21/11 06:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

create your own religion!


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: PoisonCrazy]
    #14490905 - 05/21/11 06:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i like yogic philosophy (e.g. patanjali). it is very direct. i feel like i would enjoy studying something more steeped in symbolism (e.g. judaism) but i don't know how to study it. the standard judeo-christian texts bore me. okay, i have never looked at a jewish text but i feel that it would be similar to the bible in its style.


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: Epigallo]
    #14492679 - 05/22/11 04:36 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Its all just a bunch of :blah: anyway. Fuck dat shit :awedrugs:


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: mellowparty]
    #14492955 - 05/22/11 07:37 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i have concluded that all religions are different means to justify the same end.

the specifics of religion do not matter. in our information era, they function on a socio-judicial level, they are to direct morality. what remains 'just' is up to the venerable eyes of god (judges, the bible). the reason that justice is an arbitrary way to value something is because the outcome is only fair if you are weighing two equals (i believe Machiavelli said this), whatever moral decision that the judge makes is always set to an arbitrary standard, religion universalizes this standard, this is the reason jefferson wrote our constitution under god and in the name of justice. everyone in the society is born with the religious ideaology to consign to the symbolic pact or literally the material action of following the laws and doing what you are told. religion did not always function to control the masses (new opiate for the masses, zizek), it was to explain terrestrial phenomena with celestial answers, globalism removes this shroud of mysticism and makes the philosophical debate less metaphysical and more material, thusly religion just serves to create law and order.


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: AntiEverything]
    #14493145 - 05/22/11 09:06 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

God is fake.


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: smurf_master]
    #14493164 - 05/22/11 09:15 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

What does it matter what we think we know?  In the end, there is no denying the Truth.


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: shroomer33]
    #14493233 - 05/22/11 09:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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What does it matter what we think we know?  In the end, there is no denying the Truth.



This is nonsense. Wtf do is mean: "In the end there is no denying the Truth."


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: PoisonCrazy]
    #14494719 - 05/22/11 04:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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What does it matter what we think we know?  In the end, there is no denying the Truth.



This is nonsense. Wtf do is mean: "In the end there is no denying the Truth."




When you're dead(the end), you'll find out.  That is all it means.

Whatever misconceptions about reality anyone has will be quickly rectified at that point.


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: shroomer33]
    #14494735 - 05/22/11 04:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Church of the flying spaghetti monster. (yes its real) (yes i am actually a believer)


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: shroomer33]
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What does it matter what we think we know?  In the end, there is no denying the Truth.



This is nonsense. Wtf do is mean: "In the end there is no denying the Truth."




When you're dead(the end), you'll find out.  That is all it means.

Whatever misconceptions about reality anyone has will be quickly rectified at that point.



Except if I am right and "I" ends upon death. Then this life is all that matters... Perhaps you cannot deny that the self ends after death (if this is true) but you also won't be able to process that information.


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: PoisonCrazy]
    #14495771 - 05/22/11 07:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: realfuzzhead]
    #14497247 - 05/23/11 01:17 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Saganism



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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: shroomer33]
    #14497285 - 05/23/11 01:29 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: blewmeanie]
    #14497409 - 05/23/11 02:13 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well, If you wanna call Buddhism a religion, I am very fond of it. I respect the religious people themselves, but in no way do I respect the source material of any Abrahamic religion, mormonism, or scientology.


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: ROFL_my_ WAFFLE]
    #14497484 - 05/23/11 03:02 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I actually think Christianity is alright, when preached by sane individuals. I feel the same way about all other religions.


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14497699 - 05/23/11 05:21 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I actually think Christianity is alright, when preached by sane individuals. I feel the same way about all other religions.




The thing is, though, when ever christianity is "alright" it is when people pick and choose what they want out of the bible. If people really followed it then it'd be a shittier world in my opinion. You can learn all the good things from the bible without ever reading the bible. If people are gonna pick and choose, why bother calling yourself christian?


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: ROFL_my_ WAFFLE]
    #14497701 - 05/23/11 05:23 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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What religions (or philosophies) do you enjoy studying and applying to your life?

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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: blewmeanie]
    #14499623 - 05/23/11 03:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Saganism



Nice.



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dude yes.

Imagine starting Saganism chapters. :hmm::lightbulb:

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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #14499649 - 05/23/11 03:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I actually think Christianity is alright, when preached by sane individuals. I feel the same way about all other religions.




The thing is, though, when ever christianity is "alright" it is when people pick and choose what they want out of the bible. If people really followed it then it'd be a shittier world in my opinion. You can learn all the good things from the bible without ever reading the bible. If people are gonna pick and choose, why bother calling yourself christian?




Well. I don't think the laws of ancient times really apply to current times. So "picking and choosing" is perfectly valid when the laws don't really apply to the modern world (e.g. not eating pork).

Other than that, if people REALLY followed what Christ taught, the world would be a much greater place! Selflessness, love, ridding yourself of jealousy/coveting/desires...

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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: ROFL_my_ WAFFLE]
    #14500862 - 05/23/11 07:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I have gained the most from Hermeticism, so naturally I like it the most. But I like all religion. I think something can be learned from all of them.


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: MLDSMDA]
    #14500903 - 05/23/11 07:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

What have you gained from Hermeticism?


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    #14500925 - 05/23/11 07:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Peace of mind. And a unification of most religions. It's not exactly a religion but it is. It just made me realize my connection to the divine and enabled me to gain control of my mind when I needed it most.


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    #14500934 - 05/23/11 07:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Interesting. I feel like I've gained peace of mind in the acceptance that I know nothing. Death is almost exciting, because it's a whole new set of possibilities.


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    #14500960 - 05/23/11 08:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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    #14500977 - 05/23/11 08:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

So for a long time I was nothing and didnt care about religion or spirituality or atheism. Then life changes nudged me in the direction of the 'new age' mumbo jumbo; I quickly got away from that and went to world religions then finally to Occultism and Philosophy. Just recently I have most been able to identify my self as a Theosophist, which isnt really a religion, and that is where I am at today.

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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: ROFL_my_ WAFFLE]
    #14500985 - 05/23/11 08:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Aren't they not allowed to eat cows under Hinduism, in a country that is starving?
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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14502447 - 05/24/11 01:07 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Well. I don't think the laws of ancient times really apply to current times. So "picking and choosing" is perfectly valid when the laws don't really apply to the modern world (e.g. not eating pork).

Other than that, if people REALLY followed what Christ taught, the world would be a much greater place! Selflessness, love, ridding yourself of jealousy/coveting/desires...

The simple fact is that most Christians are nothing like Jesus.




I also don't think value systems used in western societies just occurred naturally. I think they came from Christianity and over generations permeated from the church into secular culture at large.

It could very well be an obsolete system. :shrug: Still, in today's world with capitalism running wild and anti-social thinkers openly preaching the gospel of unmitigated greed and moral nihilism, I think it may be hasty to abandon it altogether. If you are going to bash on Christianity then you should target its failures as a moral torchlight for humanity rather than its mythology, which is merely incidental (unless you, personally, believe in fairy-tales).

EDIT: Also, I forgot to mention that the New Testament is extraordinarily liberal with regards to "the old laws." Basically, you get to pick and choose. All that's demanded is that you believe in the power of personal sacrifice and in the golden rule. The Christ mythology serves only to reinforce these essential values. And given how many non-Christians think Jesus was an awesome guy and an exemplary role model, it seems to work pretty well.


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14502515 - 05/24/11 01:24 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Well. I don't think the laws of ancient times really apply to current times. So "picking and choosing" is perfectly valid when the laws don't really apply to the modern world (e.g. not eating pork).

Other than that, if people REALLY followed what Christ taught, the world would be a much greater place! Selflessness, love, ridding yourself of jealousy/coveting/desires...

The simple fact is that most Christians are nothing like Jesus.




I also don't think value systems used in western societies just occurred naturally. I think they came from Christianity and over generations permeated from the church into secular culture at large.

It could very well be an obsolete system. :shrug: Still, in today's world with capitalism running wild and anti-social thinkers openly preaching the gospel of unmitigated greed and moral nihilism, I think it may be hasty to abandon it altogether. If you are going to bash on Christianity then you should target its failures as a moral torchlight for humanity rather than its mythology, which is merely incidental (unless you, personally, believe in fairy-tales).

EDIT: Also, I forgot to mention that the New Testament is extraordinarily liberal with regards to "the old laws." Basically, you get to pick and choose. All that's demanded is that you believe in the power of personal sacrifice and in the golden rule. The Christ mythology serves only to reinforce these essential values. And given how many non-Christians think Jesus was an awesome guy, it seems to work pretty well.




This undermines that the bible is the word of God. Jesus also said:
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven."

So, good ol' Jesus willl lay the smackdown if you eat shellfish or give women any power.

That whole you get to eat anything you want is a St. Paul thing.
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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: rational]
    #14502519 - 05/24/11 01:25 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Hinduism




I'll come right out and say it, Hinduism is fucked-up. There's a lot about it that's pretty cool and exotic, but it's interwoven with the rigidly conservative Indian caste system that for millenia has kept the black man down.


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This undermines that the bible is the word of God. Jesus also said:
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven."

So, good ol' Jesus willl lay the smackdown if you eat shellfish or give women any power.

That whole you get to eat anything you want is a St. Paul thing.
Basically, the bible is mess.




Jesus also said that the meek shall inherit the earth, so this thing about being "called least" in the kingdom of heaven seems like a riddle to me. He certainly never said that breakers of Mosaic law would be cast into the fire with the hypocrites.


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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Hinduism




I'll come right out and say it, Hinduism is fucked-up. There's a lot about it that's pretty cool and exotic, but it's interwoven with the rigidly conservative Indian caste system that for millenia has kept the black man down.



There are many Hindu sects that reject the caste system, just as there are many Christian denominations who reject homophobia and exclusivism.


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    #14502561 - 05/24/11 01:34 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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    #14502564 - 05/24/11 01:35 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I think the Bahai faith has a crucial social role in (maybe some day possibly) ending absurd bickering and battles about which religion is "right" or which religion is "better". 

I can't believe it isn't obvious to more people argueing their angry opinions with eachother that they're completely contradicting themselves by getting mean and nasty towards their brethren.

But the problem with the church hyenas has roots a lot deeper than the preacher they listen to. As perverse and unnatural as this world is, throats are bound to be slashed in the name of the Lord, Ronald Regan, or Oprah.

Just drop it people! Exit the jungle of arguable literature and learn how to feel the differences of right and wrong, and the rewards and benefits of listening to your heart and acting on it.

^^Isn't that the best place to start a growing human being? Do we really need to be throwing mystic symbolic stories at 6 year olds whose biggest concern is how to sneak a few cookies under their pillow before bedtime?


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This undermines that the bible is the word of God. Jesus also said:
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven."

So, good ol' Jesus willl lay the smackdown if you eat shellfish or give women any power.

That whole you get to eat anything you want is a St. Paul thing.
Basically, the bible is mess.




Jesus also said that the meek shall inherit the earth, so this thing about being "called least" in the kingdom of heaven seems like a riddle to me. He certainly never said that breakers of Mosaic law would be cast into the fire with the hypocrites.





So why would God create a situation where you need to answer a riddle to receive his love? What if he created you stupid? So either I can do whatever the hell i want, for instance rape a baby, but if I accept Jesus I'm good to go to heaven. But if I lead an awesome life, but denounce Jesus, I'll go to hell. There is no such unconditional love in the bible.


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    #14502585 - 05/24/11 01:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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So why would God create a situation where you need to answer a riddle to receive his love? What if he created you stupid? So either I can do whatever the hell i want, for instance rape a baby, but if I accept Jesus I'm good to go to heaven. But if I lead an awesome life, but denounce Jesus, I'll go to hell. There is no such unconditional love in the bible.




All of this is true - according to St. Augustine, who did not write the Bible and who IMO was a hack.

The Bible doesn't even say anything about Hell unless you choose to interpret it a certain way. It certainly never says "and you're gonna be tortured for like, ever, dude." Most of these doctrines came after its writing, and we now take them for granted because of their widespread acceptance by mental midgets.


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    #14502599 - 05/24/11 01:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

New International Version (©1984)
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."-Revelation 21:8

How else CAN this be interpreted...remember, the ENTIRE bible is suposed to be from God, so this is from the horses mouth.


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #14502619 - 05/24/11 01:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I take that to mean that your name and influence in the world will die along with your body, and your personality will be lost to the sands of time. I mean, shit, if you sleep around and have lots of babies with strange women then you will not be able to raise them with your own values and ideas, and after you die it will be like you never existed except as a faceless drone. This is the "second death."

And the "Word of God"? Let's be honest here, the Bible was written at a time when being able to pass down information that would survive fully intact longer than two generations represented God-like power.

You can interpret this type of language any way you like, and you yourself seem to be adhering to a fundamentalist interpretation which reinforces your preconceived and non-constructive denunciation of Christianity.


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #14502625 - 05/24/11 02:01 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I take that to mean that your name and influence in the world will die along with your body, and your personality will be lost to the sands of time. I mean, shit, if you sleep around and have lots of babies with strange women then you will not be able to raise them with your own values and ideas, and after you die it will be like you never existed except as a faceless drone. This is the "second death."

And the "Word of God"? Let's be honest here, the Bible was written at a time when being able to pass down information that would survive fully intact longer than two generations represented God-like power.

You can interpret this type of language any way you like, and you yourself seem to be adhering to a fundamentalist interpretation which reinforces your preconceived and non-constructive denunciation of Christianity.




So you do not believe it is the word of God? So you and I are talking mythology here, right? I think denunciation of christianity is productive considering the damages it has done.


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #14502652 - 05/24/11 02:12 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I think that Christianity laid the foundation for secular society as we know it today, and that blanket denunciations of such a thing are not constructive unless you are a tribal anarchist. (If that's the case, I apologize for my prior assumptions.)

Certain interpretations and movements under the umbrella of Christianity have done incalculable human and cultural damage, it's true, so you should denounce those rather than the endeavor as a whole. In the 20th century alone, areligious movements have killed hundreds of millions, so I think it may not be useful to assign the blame for human bloodthirstiness to religion.

As for God? The Bible itself isn't really clear on what God "is," and neither are any of us. I believe God is in all of us and all around us, so both of us are speaking the word of God. Where's the truth? Only you can decide.


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    #14502945 - 05/24/11 05:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I identify most with Naturalistic Pantheism.

I think the appeal is it's rational approach to the universe. I tend to dislike religions based on blind faith and particularly abhor proselytism. I find Eastern religions/ philosophies fascinating, probably because they promote critical thinking and self-evaluation.

I love learning about all religions, mostly from an anthropological perspective.


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Re: Religions that you actually like. [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14503018 - 05/24/11 06:07 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Hinduism




I'll come right out and say it, Hinduism is fucked-up. There's a lot about it that's pretty cool and exotic, but it's interwoven with the rigidly conservative Indian caste system that for millenia has kept the black man down.




You bet. It's specially interesting when husbands set their wives of fire on account of not paying their marriage portion.


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