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The Pinning of my first Isolate... 1
#14349311 - 04/25/11 02:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Just wanted to show off!  Here is my first bin of a B+ isolate i worked on... Pinset looks incredible... Its a 71qt monotub...

Some are coming in faster than others, but there are tons of knots on it...
Sorry for the shitty pics, hope to get a nice DSLR soon! 
Mission was a success!
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
#14349358 - 04/25/11 02:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: Doc_T]
#14349362 - 04/25/11 02:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Looks awesome congrats on your first iso grow. Too bad it was bogus +
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: UnnamedGrower]
#14349399 - 04/25/11 02:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nice job, dude.  Im looking forward to it.
 Keep us updated.
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: UnnamedGrower]
#14349486 - 04/25/11 02:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've had awesome results with MS B+  These are some spores that ive had for quite some times now... Been reproducing these from a syringe i got ~10yrs ago...
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
#14349564 - 04/25/11 03:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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UnnamedGrower said: Too bad it was bogus +
I've had awesome results with MS B+  These are some spores that ive had for quite some times now... Been reproducing these from a syringe i got ~10yrs ago...
O yea lots of ppl have great success with b+ but I ended up with over a lb of bunk shit so Im bitter towards the strain(I know its not a strain)
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
#14349590 - 04/25/11 03:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Excellent work. B+ still remains as one of my favorites.
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Isolating can be a lot of work, but its a fun hobby and the results can be just outstanding. Congrats!
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: Doc_T]
#14349826 - 04/25/11 03:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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looking good keep us posted i wanna see the harvest.
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: trekie]
#14361409 - 04/27/11 02:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Since there is much popcorn going on...
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: Luger0815]
#14361539 - 04/27/11 02:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
#14367124 - 04/28/11 02:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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wow that is niceee..
Can't wait till I can test my 1st iso. Waiting on my pint jar to fully colonize to make a GLC. Then the real fun begins. 
Keep the pics and updates coming
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
#14367455 - 04/28/11 03:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: faceyneck]
#14367570 - 04/28/11 03:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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What kind of light source do you have? And how close to the tub is it?
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: Luger0815]
#14367583 - 04/28/11 03:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I believe he told me just a 100watt incandescent from the room it's in.
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: faceyneck]
#14367590 - 04/28/11 03:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hmmm...
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: Luger0815]
#14367623 - 04/28/11 03:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah, I thought the same thing!
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: faceyneck]
#14368075 - 04/28/11 04:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Bah... Its a work in progress... Money doesnt grow on trees around my parts
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
#14368126 - 04/28/11 04:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm loving this!
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
#14369267 - 04/28/11 08:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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total said: Bah... Its a work in progress... Money doesnt grow on trees around my parts 
Yeah, it grows on horse manure. 

We just wanna see you get the best bang for yer' buck, bro. Do you expose them to sunlight via the window? That's the best option, even if you had daylight fluorescents.
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: faceyneck]
#14369383 - 04/28/11 08:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Good job total 
I wish my tubs looked like yours.
Mine are all dried, unevenly colonized and require a lining
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: Belief]
#14369448 - 04/28/11 08:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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6 hours later...
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
#14369623 - 04/28/11 09:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
#14370337 - 04/28/11 11:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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total said: Bah... Its a work in progress... Money doesnt grow on trees around my parts 
I am sure that you know about the benefit of light. But as i saw the fruits i just asked me if they maybe got a lack of light.  .
Nice grow...
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: Luger0815]
#14370608 - 04/29/11 12:20 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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These 2 were just to get me back on my feet and re-up on some supplies... I know i need lights Expect more from me soon...
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
#14373172 - 04/29/11 03:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
#14373201 - 04/29/11 03:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nice, keep up the good work.
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
#14373208 - 04/29/11 03:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
#14375262 - 04/29/11 10:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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total said: Daily Bump:

Are you misting, Toats?
I've discovered misting is extremely beneficial, cased or no. The mycelium looks so fluffy and fragile, I thought maybe you haven't been misting? 
In the future, you should know that Stamets says in GGMM that some species benefit from damage to the primordia. So don't worry about doing harm to primordia before, during and after pin initiation. If you do damage them, either nothing bad will happen or you'll get a better pinset.
What I do is mist once a day when I fan the tubs, and I mist up to what Hyphae would call "near saturation;" the point JUUUUST before pools start to form. Then once the pinset is in full swing, I DRENCH the fucker! Like, I mist to the point where puddles form; I mist until no more water can possibly be held on the substrate surface. It's helped yield quite a bit. I got stuck with some shitty B+ genetics - all the same genes in this series of bins - and the first one I didn't mist just fanned, and yielded a mere 5.25oz for a 60-quart bin. 
With this method, I've increased average yield up to at least 6oz. I don't have a total average yet as the last two bins from this series are drying right now. I can tell by the wet harvest though that all of them have well beat out the first tub.
I had no idea until I started misting how much water an uncased substrate can absorb. 

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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
#14375295 - 04/29/11 11:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Fan moar.
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: Doc_T]
#14375335 - 04/29/11 11:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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beautiful tub o' B+ cant wait to see them mature
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
#14375985 - 04/30/11 03:17 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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total said: Daily Bump:

Beautyfull.....
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
#14376194 - 04/30/11 05:48 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I wonder if those are just lanky genes, or if they aren't getting enough FAE.
What's your fanning regimen?
I've had some strains come from B+ that were just genetically very lanky stems with unusually small caps.
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: faceyneck]
#14376284 - 04/30/11 07:11 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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faceyneck said: What I do is mist once a day when I fan the tubs, and I mist up to what Hyphae would call "near saturation;" the point JUUUUST before pools start to form. Then once the pinset is in full swing, I DRENCH the fucker! Like, I mist to the point where puddles form; I mist until no more water can possibly be held on the substrate surface. It's helped yield quite a bit. I got stuck with some shitty B+ genetics - all the same genes in this series of bins - and the first one I didn't mist just fanned, and yielded a mere 5.25oz for a 60-quart bin. 
With this method, I've increased average yield up to at least 6oz. I don't have a total average yet as the last two bins from this series are drying right now. I can tell by the wet harvest though that all of them have well beat out the first tub.
I had no idea until I started misting how much water an uncased substrate can absorb.
You've had me thinking a lot lately Facey and I have been drastically upping the water. I think I was underwatering and never realized it.
So Facey your routine is something like this:?
It's day 10, sub is fully colonized. Facey unwraps the saran from the lid and top 2 holes, pulls out the fill from one of the bottom holes.
Then what? When do you start with the misting routine u mention? Day 11?
When do you put the fill back in the bottom hole, or do you?
By what day would u normally see pins if fully colonized by day 10?
Are you substituting the dunks between flushes with heavy drenchings from the mist bottle?
In the time between flushes are you drenching it daily?
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: mister]
#14376307 - 04/30/11 07:19 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: Carl Sagan]
#14376619 - 04/30/11 09:19 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I am late to the game: Great work Total!
Very pretty grow.
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: Javadog]
#14377397 - 04/30/11 12:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I fan anywhere from 2-3x day... They are very lacking on light/misting...
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
#14377986 - 04/30/11 02:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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show us the harvest!!!!! cmon dont leave us hanging.
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They are just now starting to open up and fan out...

I just went and bought 2x fluorescent light fixtures and 4x 48" 40w 6500 Daylight bulbs... Hope its not overkill...
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
#14380445 - 05/01/11 12:02 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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New lighting...

48" should be enough to cover 3 tubs side by side... The fixture or bulb doesnt even warm up much, so i think its safe to sit the fixture right on the tubs...
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
#14381210 - 05/01/11 03:37 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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total said: New lighting...

48" should be enough to cover 3 tubs side by side... The fixture or bulb doesnt even warm up much, so i think its safe to sit the fixture right on the tubs... 
Nice light. Why not put some big thumb screws into your ceiling, and hang the light off of it?
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: CaptainAhab]
#14382293 - 05/01/11 12:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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CaptainAhab said: Nice light. Why not put some big thumb screws into your ceiling, and hang the light off of it?
Because i want the light as close to the bins as possible... I plan on building 2 shelves above these bins, so i can stack them 3 high, and each stack will have their own light...
In the meantime, here is a pic pre-harvest...
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
#14382325 - 05/01/11 12:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
#14382446 - 05/01/11 12:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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  Exiting to see so many mature fruits and no visible spores. With this new light, the fruits of the next grow will stand straight, like pines in the wood. Nice grow.
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: Luger0815]
#14382661 - 05/01/11 01:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Will make them ezier to pick, thats for sure! No more weaving in between each other!
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: anonjon]
#14386551 - 05/02/11 01:44 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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faceyneck said: What I do is mist once a day when I fan the tubs, and I mist up to what Hyphae would call "near saturation;" the point JUUUUST before pools start to form. Then once the pinset is in full swing, I DRENCH the fucker! Like, I mist to the point where puddles form; I mist until no more water can possibly be held on the substrate surface. It's helped yield quite a bit. I got stuck with some shitty B+ genetics - all the same genes in this series of bins - and the first one I didn't mist just fanned, and yielded a mere 5.25oz for a 60-quart bin. 
With this method, I've increased average yield up to at least 6oz. I don't have a total average yet as the last two bins from this series are drying right now. I can tell by the wet harvest though that all of them have well beat out the first tub.
I had no idea until I started misting how much water an uncased substrate can absorb.
You've had me thinking a lot lately Facey and I have been drastically upping the water. I think I was underwatering and never realized it.
So Facey your routine is something like this:?
It's day 10, sub is fully colonized. Facey unwraps the saran from the lid and top 2 holes, pulls out the fill from one of the bottom holes.
Then what? When do you start with the misting routine u mention? Day 11?
When do you put the fill back in the bottom hole, or do you?
By what day would u normally see pins if fully colonized by day 10?
Are you substituting the dunks between flushes with heavy drenchings from the mist bottle?
In the time between flushes are you drenching it daily?
Sorry it's taken me a bit to get back to you Jon. Been crazy busy making up tubs and cleaning/reorganizing my living space.
I typically get full colonization in about a week's time, if the temperature is at between 75-78 degrees. Lower than that and it can take up to about 12 days.
I don't saran wrap any of the holes or lid actually, because I feel guilty about throwing away plastic. It's certainly a good idea though. I stack the tubs on each other to ensure the weight of each tub keeps the lids tight; I stack up to 6 tubs on each other. I then place 2 5lb weights on the uppermost bin to keep its lid tight on there.
To introduce fruiting, I put the tubs in my closet with a 4' 40watt (...I THINK it's a 40 watt anyway ) fluorescent light fixture propped against a corner vertically. This is long enough to provide a LOT of light to 5 or 6 tubs, regardless of whether or not the lids are transparent which is important to me. (...all my lids are opaque.) I unplug one of the holes, and turn on a 4" fan with the fan sitting in the middle of the closet pointed straight up standing on the floor. I think you mentioned these fans actually - cheap little 4" fans from Wal-Mart? This is enough air circulation for up to 12 tubs in my closet. If doing 3 rows of tubs, I gotta add an additional 4" fan.
The unplugged hole I have facing toward the wall in the closet the tubs are closest to. I'd take a pic, but unfortunately the closet they're in is my bedroom closet, and my wife's asleep. Sorry. I'll take a pic sometime later today.
I also start fruiting before consolidation now. I've taken some pics of how my substrate looks, which I'll turn into an uncased-bulk-substrate-misting-tek. I haven't uploaded them yet however. I found a substrate that looks the same as how I like mine to be fortunately. It'll suffice for comparison.
Here's what I'd consider fully consolidated:

It's like a pile of snow. 
Here's a tub of monstermitch's from back in the day in the early stages of primordia formation, fully colonized, but NOT consolidated:

The latter picture is MUCH more receptive to water than the former fully consolidated substrate.
Fruiting this way will add to the time it takes before you see pins after initiating fruiting, but it's totally worth it and you won't lose any time. Fruiting this way allows us to ramp up the fresh air exchange to excessive levels. This encourages excessive evaporation, the most important pinning trigger. Also, since the substrate isn't fully consolidated and very receptive to water absorption, we can replace all or nearly all of the water that is lost from day to day.
Then, once the pins are well developed and starting to turn into fruitbodies, we plug the hole back up, and water like CRAZY. Still fanning and misting once a day as we did to encourage pinning, the substrate still gets quite enough fresh air, but the humidity is kept at nearly 100%, and water is given in abundance. 
I usually see pins around day 7 of fruiting, though sometimes a bit later if dealing with a shitty strain/group of strains, like by day 9 or 10. Almost always I see pins by day 7 though. If waiting until fully consolidated, I usually see pins after about 4 days. It takes an extra ~3 days or so to fully consolidate however, so it evens out.
I'll try and post some pics and such in here and in the IRF thread later on today. 
Lemme know if there's anything I forgot to answer, bro!  
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: faceyneck]
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: anonjon]
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Ok guys... Off the 71qt tub, i got just a few grams under 7oz...
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
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Is that wet or dry?
Either way. Nice work!
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I would hope it would be dry. I personally dont think its that much from a 71 q tub for an isolate I regulary get 6-7 oz dry from an MS monotub that is only 47q like the pic in my sig or this one of some AA+
 I think that I am blessed by the mushroom gods. I consistently get wall to wall canopies
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: UnnamedGrower]
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Nice first flush
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: faceyneck]
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faceyneck said:
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faceyneck said: What I do is mist once a day when I fan the tubs, and I mist up to what Hyphae would call "near saturation;" the point JUUUUST before pools start to form. Then once the pinset is in full swing, I DRENCH the fucker! Like, I mist to the point where puddles form; I mist until no more water can possibly be held on the substrate surface. It's helped yield quite a bit. I got stuck with some shitty B+ genetics - all the same genes in this series of bins - and the first one I didn't mist just fanned, and yielded a mere 5.25oz for a 60-quart bin. 
With this method, I've increased average yield up to at least 6oz. I don't have a total average yet as the last two bins from this series are drying right now. I can tell by the wet harvest though that all of them have well beat out the first tub.
I had no idea until I started misting how much water an uncased substrate can absorb.
You've had me thinking a lot lately Facey and I have been drastically upping the water. I think I was underwatering and never realized it.
So Facey your routine is something like this:?
It's day 10, sub is fully colonized. Facey unwraps the saran from the lid and top 2 holes, pulls out the fill from one of the bottom holes.
Then what? When do you start with the misting routine u mention? Day 11?
When do you put the fill back in the bottom hole, or do you?
By what day would u normally see pins if fully colonized by day 10?
Are you substituting the dunks between flushes with heavy drenchings from the mist bottle?
In the time between flushes are you drenching it daily?
Sorry it's taken me a bit to get back to you Jon. Been crazy busy making up tubs and cleaning/reorganizing my living space.
I typically get full colonization in about a week's time, if the temperature is at between 75-78 degrees. Lower than that and it can take up to about 12 days.
I don't saran wrap any of the holes or lid actually, because I feel guilty about throwing away plastic. It's certainly a good idea though. I stack the tubs on each other to ensure the weight of each tub keeps the lids tight; I stack up to 6 tubs on each other. I then place 2 5lb weights on the uppermost bin to keep its lid tight on there.
To introduce fruiting, I put the tubs in my closet with a 4' 40watt (...I THINK it's a 40 watt anyway ) fluorescent light fixture propped against a corner vertically. This is long enough to provide a LOT of light to 5 or 6 tubs, regardless of whether or not the lids are transparent which is important to me. (...all my lids are opaque.) I unplug one of the holes, and turn on a 4" fan with the fan sitting in the middle of the closet pointed straight up standing on the floor. I think you mentioned these fans actually - cheap little 4" fans from Wal-Mart? This is enough air circulation for up to 12 tubs in my closet. If doing 3 rows of tubs, I gotta add an additional 4" fan.
The unplugged hole I have facing toward the wall in the closet the tubs are closest to. I'd take a pic, but unfortunately the closet they're in is my bedroom closet, and my wife's asleep. Sorry. I'll take a pic sometime later today.
I also start fruiting before consolidation now. I've taken some pics of how my substrate looks, which I'll turn into an uncased-bulk-substrate-misting-tek. I haven't uploaded them yet however. I found a substrate that looks the same as how I like mine to be fortunately. It'll suffice for comparison.
Here's what I'd consider fully consolidated:

It's like a pile of snow. 
Here's a tub of monstermitch's from back in the day in the early stages of primordia formation, fully colonized, but NOT consolidated:

The latter picture is MUCH more receptive to water than the former fully consolidated substrate.
Fruiting this way will add to the time it takes before you see pins after initiating fruiting, but it's totally worth it and you won't lose any time. Fruiting this way allows us to ramp up the fresh air exchange to excessive levels. This encourages excessive evaporation, the most important pinning trigger. Also, since the substrate isn't fully consolidated and very receptive to water absorption, we can replace all or nearly all of the water that is lost from day to day.
Then, once the pins are well developed and starting to turn into fruitbodies, we plug the hole back up, and water like CRAZY. Still fanning and misting once a day as we did to encourage pinning, the substrate still gets quite enough fresh air, but the humidity is kept at nearly 100%, and water is given in abundance. 
I usually see pins around day 7 of fruiting, though sometimes a bit later if dealing with a shitty strain/group of strains, like by day 9 or 10. Almost always I see pins by day 7 though. If waiting until fully consolidated, I usually see pins after about 4 days. It takes an extra ~3 days or so to fully consolidate however, so it evens out.
I'll try and post some pics and such in here and in the IRF thread later on today. 
Lemme know if there's anything I forgot to answer, bro!  
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interesting. veeeery interesting. i happen to have 2 tubs going atm, one that was birthed when it looked just like the top pic (pile of snow) and a second that looks like the bottom one (monstermitch's tub). the first was birthed the way i always do, late cased. the other, i'm going to go ahead and birth it ala faceyneck style. tubs are both ms pesa in 58 qt kis bins spawned 7qts spawn to damions bucket. i'll let y'all know how it goes.
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
#14392462 - 05/03/11 12:38 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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total said: Ok guys... Off the 71qt tub, i got just a few grams under 7oz... 
With fanning, misting, running a fan and daylight fluorescent light, you should be able to bump that up to 8-9oz, maybe even 10-11oz.
Try my take on ProfessorPinHead's pinning strategy. I think you'll like it. 
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faceyneck said: I'd also like to add a recommendation for how much water to mist the tubs with each day:
- It's pretty much the same thing Hyphae suggests regarding casing pinning strategy:
- Mist as much water as you possibly can, but without puddles forming.
- Fan manually with the lid vigorously for 5 seconds before and after misting.
- Run a small fan near the tub, but pointed in a direction parallel to the tub(s), or straight up in the air if your fan can. (...that's what I do - straight up in the air.)
- You know you are getting enough air circulation/evaporation if the water on the surface takes ~12 hours to evaporate/absorb away. If it takes longer than that, increase fan speed. If it takes less time, reduce fan speed and/or move fan further away from tub.
After enough pins have formed that you are satisfied with:
- Re-plug up the hole that has been unplugged.
- Continue the misting/fanning regiment of 1x a day.
- Start misting as much as you possibly can. That is - mist to the point of pooling; mist until the surface of the substrate cannot hold any more water; mist until just before water starts running down the sides of the substrate.
- Continue this procedure until it is time to harvest.
Someone recently told me that if they keep misting like this near full maturity of the fruits that they bruise and get gross-looking. This hasn't ever happened to me though. You'll know if it happens to you this go-around. 
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: Fungal growth]
#14392477 - 05/03/11 12:41 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I happen to have a bin of PESH going on at the moment as well! 
So long as you follow the pinning method to the 'T,' the cased and the uncased should yield about the same amount. The cased tub might look prettier though. I didn't take any pics, but I recently harvested a B+ uncased tub that had nearly a full canopy. 
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: faceyneck]
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: Primal Call]
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Nice grow, i want to get into isolates.
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Here are some new shots of bin #2... New lights and daily misting have made the pins on the new bin look considerably better! 
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
#14415433 - 05/07/11 02:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nice pinset..
 looking forward how they will perform with your new light.
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
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total said: Here are some new shots of bin #2... New lights and daily misting have made the pins on the new bin look considerably better! 

Lookin' great, Toats! 
Manually fanning the tubs when you mist should also help, on account of it promoting more evaporation; more so than an increase in fresh air, is my guess.
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: faceyneck]
#14417469 - 05/08/11 12:04 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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wow my friend...it's nice to see a day-to-day progression of the pinset into fruits...thank you for the detail
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: zydisqwap]
#14417480 - 05/08/11 12:09 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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also mind if I ask how many times it took to finally isolate the b+? and was this spore vendor or clone or your own sprints that you used for the agar work?
hope to venture into agar at some point...
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: zydisqwap]
#14417550 - 05/08/11 12:33 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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very nice! making me excited to start my AA+ isolate!
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: zydisqwap]
#14417649 - 05/08/11 01:00 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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zydisqwap said: wow my friend...it's nice to see a day-to-day progression of the pinset into fruits...thank you for the detail
 Today's shot...
 I hooked up one of these to move some air around constantly... Def too little air going around...

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zydisqwap said:also mind if I ask how many times it took to finally isolate the b+?
It was from a cloned mushroom that produced ~3 sectors on a plate... Faceyneck calls it a "Cloned Isolate"  Lets call it that from now on! This is the results of one of them...
It also appears my B+ iso is sporeless! Here is a bad shot of an overly mature side pin off bin #1
 NO SPORES! 
I went ahead and picked those, and took you guys some upclose shots! They bruised heavily where i rubbed the gills for spores that were not there...
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
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crazy man... B+ sporeless.... Love the side pinning you got going on! gonna be a mad flush for ya!
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
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No spores...did you cloned it from a fruit that also dropped no spores?
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: Luger0815]
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Luger0815 said: No spores...did you cloned it from a fruit that also dropped no spores?
Was cloned from a very early pin...
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
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That was a lucky shot. Nice..
 I really enjoy your thread!
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: Luger0815]
#14424606 - 05/09/11 01:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Updated pic...

Coming along very nicely now...
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
#14424656 - 05/09/11 01:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Great pinset.....!
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: Luger0815]
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Luscious.
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: anonjon]
#14426021 - 05/09/11 06:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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 These look much better than the first, with only daily misting and a nice 6500k light
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: Carl Sagan]
#14426311 - 05/09/11 07:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Great looking pinset, and it looks like more pins are showing up daily. I have high hopes for this grow.
Also, sweet luck with the sporeless isolate. You can let those boogers get as large as possible and don't have to think about a mess of spores everywhere.
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: afrosheen]
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Updated Bump:
 Getting there...
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: wow]
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That's looks awesome. I'm hoping mine will look just like this one.
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
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 Getting there... 
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: faceyneck]
#14449620 - 05/14/11 04:21 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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*BUMP*
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: Luger0815]
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Yeah, for sure.

Those should've definitely matured by now. Where you at dawg?
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
#14454939 - 05/15/11 05:44 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Looks great man keep it up =)
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: faceyneck]
#14454977 - 05/15/11 06:10 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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faceyneck said: Yeah, for sure.

Those should've definitely matured by now. Where you at dawg?
Yes, i wonder what's up??
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: Luger0815]
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Total's like that man. Really inconsistent via IM too. 
Still:
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: faceyneck]
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Well, he told me that one bin grew all gnarly apparently... which makes me wanna see some pics even more. 
He said he'd take a pic "...in abit [sic]," and that was like 12 hours ago.
He should understand we all wait upon his every whim for entertainment and act accordingly.
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: faceyneck]
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 Sorry for the late pics... Here you go...

Im quite confused on what is causing the twisted stems... The only thing new is a small 3" fan in the bottom corner of the closet...  Open to suggestions on this one...
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
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Joined very late, just read thread from beginning to now. The first tub looked amazing, enough to make me definately decide to give monotubs a try! Am also curious as to what caused the twisting on the 2nd tub?
Awesome work btw!
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: 4204ME]
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what was your substrate?
I'm wondering what caused the twisting too.
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: dondoodle]
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Those boomers got a lot of water but insufficient fae.
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: anonjon]
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A lot of aborts in that pic
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: Wing]
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Never done an isolate before but from what I have heard I thought they were supposed to all look about the same?? I am a complete noob so I'm sorry if I'm completely wrong.
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: anonjon]
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dondoodle said: what was your substrate?
It was a brick of coir with 2 quarts of vermiculite...
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anonjon said: Those boomers got a lot of water but insufficient fae.
I fanned them daily and also added a fan to the closet... Maybe need a bigger fan...
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
#14465560 - 05/16/11 11:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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total said: Pinset looks incredible...
What are you referring to?
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
#14466122 - 05/17/11 02:34 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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total said:
 Sorry for the late pics... Here you go...

Im quite confused on what is causing the twisted stems... The only thing new is a small 3" fan in the bottom corner of the closet...  Open to suggestions on this one...
This is the same cloned isolate as the other one? 
I don't see how that could be really. I think you said you cloned a sporeless fruit for this grow?
If those are 100% definitely the same genetics as last time, I'm completely stumped. The only nebulous idea I can think of, is spores in the air mated with the strain on the substrate and caused that bizarre mutation.
I highly doubt it's a lack of FAE, but I don't know. The stems are fuzzy with mycelium, a tell-tale sign of insufficient fresh air. Still, those fruits are ALL fucked up.
Was the temperature excessively warm maybe?
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: faceyneck]
#14467864 - 05/17/11 01:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I recently had some amazons turn out exactly the same way. It was after reading this thread and getting crazy with the watering.
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: Wing]
#14467885 - 05/17/11 01:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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winged_1 said: A lot of aborts in that pic
I don't see many aborts. Those pins don't look aborted (yet) to me.
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: Sillicybin]
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I bet that there was too much water in the sub....
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: Luger0815]
#14468545 - 05/17/11 03:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Not gonna lie... I went quite crazy with the spray bottle... Ill try to take it ez'ier on the next few tubs...
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
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total said: Not gonna lie... I went quite crazy with the spray bottle... Ill try to take it ez'ier on the next few tubs...
That's funny we both did the same thing. Blame Facey!
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: anonjon]
#14469510 - 05/17/11 07:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Meh... I did it on my own accord... Also another difference... The first tub was out in the room, this one was pinned in a closet...
I might try to aim a fan into the closet...
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: total]
#14469635 - 05/17/11 07:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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oh yeah, fruiting in the closet is tough keeping the door closed unless you have a small fan on low pointed away from the FC, and open the door to the closet 2-5 times a day to let in fresh air
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I'm going to start soon, unfortunatly i'll have to do mine in a closet - completely. The whole thing looked great until it the last pics :/ sorry it went a little south, i'm still new so i'm not sure if you can still eat those or not? why would you want them sporeless anyway? hope everything picks up for you man!
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: 88malice]
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Threads like this make me feel like a kid in a candy shop! I'm getting geared up (slowly) for my first grow :-)
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: HorizonSpawn]
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horizon - that makes two of us
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: 88malice]
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Right on!...
I just ordered (like an hour ago) some Tasmanian. Wishing us both the best in our new endeavour :-)
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: 88malice]
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88malice said: why would you want them sporeless anyway?
I can't speak for Total, but I wish I had a sporeless isolate. Spores are messy and clog up everything eventually - your humidifier, your dehydrator, the air filter in your HVAC unit, the filters in your flowhood (if you're lucky enough to have one, etc. etc. etc.)
And yes, there's no reason those aren't safe to eat. Mutants and strange-looking fruits are just as safe as picture-perfect fruits. The only thing to really watch out for is bacterial blotch and mold on the fruits themselves.
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: Sillicybin]
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88malice said: why would you want them sporeless anyway?
I can't speak for Total, but I wish I had a sporeless isolate. Spores are messy and clog up everything eventually - your humidifier, your dehydrator, the air filter in your HVAC unit, the filters in your flowhood (if you're lucky enough to have one, etc. etc. etc.)

This is another reason the penis strains are so nice. You can let them fully ripen without making a mess. And since the caps don't open as wide they're easier to load into the dehydrator.
I find Burma to be a decent yielding non-penis strain that sporulates late and light, two good qualities.
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Re: The Pinning of my first Isolate... [Re: anonjon]
#14475136 - 05/18/11 07:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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..and this is the hard part of growing Reishi, as it starts sporulating way before you are ready to harvest.
I have my tub in my man-cave, and wonder if I might want to move it outside.
Interesting info on the burmas.
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