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Why single me out? Lion is the one that made the original baseless claim.
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Tchan909 said: How many of those 68% of Palestinian Muslims who support terrorist action against what they see as colonialists and invaders are actually chopping off heads and launching missiles? And how many of them have carried out suicide bombings? 
Why is that relevant? How many nazis actually killed jews? How many southerners actually owned slaves? How many people in the armed forces have actually killed somebody?
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Re: Why Not Do A Little Religion? [Re: DieCommie]
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Tchan909 said: How many of those 68% of Palestinian Muslims who support terrorist action against what they see as colonialists and invaders are actually chopping off heads and launching missiles? And how many of them have carried out suicide bombings? 
They elected a terrorist organization to head their government. And they see a lot of things that are bullshit. Like that Jews in Israel are invaders. Some of them would be happily living in Israel with full voting rights if they hadn't tried to murder all the Jews. But they did so they don't. Then there are the Egyptians and Jordanian Pallys. Notice that the countries they came from don't want anything to do with them at all. How come?
Then we have the whole millions upon millions of Muslims in other parts of the world who persist in violent acts for utter bullshit. Like making a nasty movie or cartoon about the pedophile prophet. That doesn't have one ballsack's worth of relevance to the Pally freakshow.
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Re: Why Not Do A Little Religion? [Re: DieCommie]
#14372450 - 04/29/11 12:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Tchan909 said: How many of those 68% of Palestinian Muslims who support terrorist action against what they see as colonialists and invaders are actually chopping off heads and launching missiles? And how many of them have carried out suicide bombings? 
Why is that relevant? How many nazis actually killed jews? How many southerners actually owned slaves? How many people in the armed forces have actually killed somebody?
How many Americans supported war on Iraq? Most.
Oh but I forgot - this is a "political debate" because America's so smart we don't believe in God anymore!
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Re: Why Not Do A Little Religion? [Re: DieCommie]
#14372481 - 04/29/11 12:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well, according to Gallup one third of Americans believe the Bible is literally true. Given the fact that the Middle East is of huge relevance in Biblical ideas about the Apocalypse, and that these ideas involve war and the defeat of infidels, and given the foreign policy of the (recent) Bush administration, it is no surprise that wealthy evangelical members of the Council for National Policy (among others) made huge contributions to George Bush's electoral campaigns, and that evangelical Christians overwhelmingly supported his candidacy. There really is a large contingent of Americans who throw their support behind foreign policies (to say nothing of irrational domestic policies) which have a strongly religious agenda, and plenty of wealthy people whose financial largesse has made the "Crusade" (Bush's word, not mine) of the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars possible.
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Re: Why Not Do A Little Religion? [Re: Lion]
#14372496 - 04/29/11 12:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Why Not Do A Little Religion? [Re: Lion]
#14373125 - 04/29/11 03:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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yeah... the US/israel are perpetuating most of the violence in the middle east... especially funny when we sell/plant weapons in the middle east then call the middle east 'a dangerous place' and then proceed to bomb the shit out of those brown ppl... oh im sorry... 'terrorists'.
Yeah, with 3000+ nukes i'd say we're the terrorists and are just as fucked up as every other religious nuts out there.
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Re: Why Not Do A Little Religion? [Re: zappaisgod]
#14373215 - 04/29/11 03:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: I live now, when Muslims are violently oppressive. Millions upon millions of them.
Just as violently oppressive or less as the US gov.
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Re: Why Not Do A Little Religion? [Re: pouihi]
#14373385 - 04/29/11 03:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hardly. They try to chop your head off for burning a flag?
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Re: Why Not Do A Little Religion? [Re: zappaisgod]
#14373428 - 04/29/11 04:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Hardly. They try to chop your head off for burning a flag?
It really annoys me how bitchy so many Americans are. They act as if our government is some inherently "evil" entity when in reality, they have provided us with some of the highest possible living standards of any country ever.
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Re: Why Not Do A Little Religion? [Re: 4896744]
#14373474 - 04/29/11 04:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Why Not Do A Little Religion? [Re: zappaisgod]
#14373486 - 04/29/11 04:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Hardly. They try to chop your head off for burning a flag?
First of all, USA is one of the few "first world" countries where, in some places, the death penalty is still in use, so chopping heads or frying convicts is debatable.
They probably just chop some muslim civilian head after torturing him, just for being a muslim.
After having destroyed his country for OIL, where's the humanity in that?
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Re: Why Not Do A Little Religion? [Re: pouihi]
#14373492 - 04/29/11 04:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oh stop bitching, what are crimes against humanity when you've got such fabulous living standards?
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Acts of war are not necessarily crimes against humanity; your rhetoric is not moving anyone who can think critically.
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Re: Why Not Do A Little Religion? [Re: 4896744]
#14373522 - 04/29/11 04:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Hardly. They try to chop your head off for burning a flag?
It really annoys me how bitchy so many Americans are. They act as if our government is some inherently "evil" entity when in reality, they have provided us with some of the highest possible living standards of any country ever.
Actually, America has a pretty low living standard compared to most of the western world.... also a piss poor currency.
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Re: Why Not Do A Little Religion? [Re: Poid]
#14373537 - 04/29/11 04:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Poid said: Acts of war are not necessarily crimes against humanity; your rhetoric is not moving anyone who can think critically.
Crimes against humanity: not for the faint of heart or stomach.
  
Or perhaps do you insist that crimes against humanity be on 9/11 scale? Because we've got plenty of those going on too - like invading countries without provocation, such as the war that led to the more tangibly specific ones pictured above, in which US troops decommissioned the police and proceeded to leave the entire country in a state of militarily-enforced lawlessness for months.
Face it, the US government is no better than the Taliban - it's just better organized, better equipped, better funded, better propagandized. And people who believe in "white guilt" will bitch at me for drawing such comparisons because it provides us all with such wonderful standards of living.
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Re: Why Not Do A Little Religion? [Re: foliocb]
#14373544 - 04/29/11 04:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Tchan909 said: Oh stop bitching, what are crimes against humanity when you've got such fabulous living standards? 
Have fun subverting yourself to the weakness of others throughout your life. 
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zappaisgod said: Hardly. They try to chop your head off for burning a flag?
It really annoys me how bitchy so many Americans are. They act as if our government is some inherently "evil" entity when in reality, they have provided us with some of the highest possible living standards of any country ever.
Actually, America has a pretty low living standard compared to most of the western world.... also a piss poor currency.
Bullshit, what countries do you consider to have high living standards?
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