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Re: So Einstein believed in god . . . [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #14355151 - 04/26/11 01:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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yang = everything
yin = nothing
yin + yang = neutrality




Someone needs to learn some 4th grade math...





It is more to do with spirituality than 4th grade math, Nothing = everything would be more relevant to your substanceless post, once again.


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Re: So Einstein believed in god . . . [Re: teknix]
    #14355172 - 04/26/11 01:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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teknix said:
It is more




You mean it has more.
It looks like some grammar lessons are in order too.

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Nothing = everything would be more relevant to your admirable and yet substanceless post




Translation: "I just got butthurt because my own post didn't make sense and someone brought that up"

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once again




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Re: So Einstein believed in god . . . [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #14355183 - 04/26/11 01:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

My only response is to ignore you, as you don't add to the conversation or debate in any form or way.

:shrug:


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Re: So Einstein believed in god . . . [Re: teknix]
    #14355475 - 04/26/11 02:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So, you're both answeing to me, and ignoring me, at the same time?

Interesting... :sherlock:


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Re: So Einstein believed in god . . . [Re: NetDiver]
    #14355685 - 04/26/11 02:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Pantheism is functionally equivalent to atheism. If God is literally everything, then God is nothing. It's just a poetic way of expressing awe at the mysteries of the Universe. :shrug:



Everything is nothing unless it's been fragmented. So from everything (pantheism) came separation with their according gods (polytheism).
Another tricky step later, some folks found out that there must be a highest separation principle (monotheism), so they did lead back this logic to its roots.
Everything seems more to equal one.


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Re: So Einstein believed in god . . . [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #14356015 - 04/26/11 04:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Everything + nothing = everything.

Neutrality doesn't even make sense there. :wow:


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Re: So Einstein believed in god . . . [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14356040 - 04/26/11 04:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Since it was in response and in regards to buddha's teachings, I disagree.

Would you like to share your perspective of this particular matter or do you prefer the tangent?


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Re: So Einstein believed in god . . . [Re: teknix]
    #14357673 - 04/26/11 08:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Everything to be true must also encompass nothing, although not that it is nothing. People confuse that all the time imo.

I think it's more Like . .

yang = everything
yin = nothing
yin + yang = neutrality.

They both must have a plane to exist on, or they would anhilate eachother. This plane is simply holding both nothing and everything.

For instance, if you say nothing is everything and everything is nothing, the outcome and final result is only nothing.

If you say nothing contains everything as everything contains nothing, the outcome is unbiased.



You're talking about "nothing" as though it were something.

It's not.


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Re: So Einstein believed in god . . . [Re: NetDiver]
    #14357771 - 04/26/11 09:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I think theoretically nothing can, in a sense, exist as something.

For instance, say nothing exists except perception

There is no one perceiving and there is nothing to perceive there is only perception.

Perception can see blue through the act of perceiving however there is no blue out there to perceive it only appears within perception via processes in perception. Blue is latent within perception but does not exist apart from perception as nothing does.

Blue is the nothing occurring within the everything (perception).

Perception is everything but the infinite nothings (blue green, height depth, time, space) all exist as apart of the everything. Nothing exists as a by-product of the real, an aspect of the real.

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Pantheism is functionally equivalent to atheism. If God is literally everything, then God is nothing. It's just a poetic way of expressing awe at the mysteries of the Universe




In a sense but not really because what you consider to be everything is really nothing and only God and God alone is everything. You cannot find God in the nothing only the everything.


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Re: So Einstein believed in god . . . [Re: soldatheero]
    #14357806 - 04/26/11 09:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Haha, writing a long post describing things that are supposedly "nothing."

Just because there's no "me" perceiving a color from an external source doesn't mean that blue is "nothing." It's just blue.


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Re: So Einstein believed in god . . . [Re: teknix]
    #14357850 - 04/26/11 09:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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β€œA spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe – a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble. In this way the pursuit of science leads to a religious feeling of a special sort.”


Does this make him an idiot, dumb, stupid or any less of a genius?




No.


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Re: So Einstein believed in god . . . [Re: NetDiver]
    #14357854 - 04/26/11 09:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

No I mean it is nothing. I mean it occurs within perception because that is what perception can do. Perception is everything and every single thing that occurs within perception is nothing. Blue exists only because perception exists it is a state of perception (which is all that exists) not an actual thing or substance and is therefore nothing.


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Re: So Einstein believed in god . . . [Re: PassiveAgressive]
    #14357877 - 04/26/11 09:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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No.



Great post, you really said a lot. :congrats:


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Re: So Einstein believed in god . . . [Re: NetDiver]
    #14357978 - 04/26/11 09:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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PassiveAgressive said:
No.



Great post, you really said a lot. :congrats:




Well, seeing as a very basic question was asked, I figured it deserved as simple and answer as I could muster. It shouldn't take more than a word to satisfy OPs question, anymore would be stoking the ego, which we're all here to kill, no? Anyway, that's what psychadelics used to be used for, when escapism wasn't in vouge. Thanks :smile:

Again,

teknix said:
β€œA spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe – a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble. In this way the pursuit of science leads to a religious feeling of a special sort.”


Does this make him an idiot, dumb, stupid or any less of a genius?


Again, no.


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Re: So Einstein believed in god . . . [Re: PassiveAgressive]
    #14358215 - 04/26/11 10:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

If you have a new perspective to add to the conversation, doing so is not boosting your ego. It's simply engaging in a good discussion.

If you don't have any new perspective to add, though, replying anyway is sorta boosting your ego (i.e. people will care about what my opinion is, despite the fact that I didn't support it or give any reason for it whatsoever!)

I guess what I'm getting at is, if you don't have anything interesting to say, don't say anything at all. :shrug:


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Re: So Einstein believed in god . . . [Re: NetDiver]
    #14358279 - 04/26/11 10:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Oh, quit trolling me already. If I've violated a rule, report me. Otherwise, if you don't have anything NICE to say, say nothing at all.


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Re: So Einstein believed in god . . . [Re: PassiveAgressive]
    #14358292 - 04/26/11 10:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

BTW, who appointed an official, "your post sucks" judge anyway?


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Re: So Einstein believed in god . . . [Re: PassiveAgressive]
    #14358317 - 04/26/11 10:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: So Einstein believed in god . . . [Re: PassiveAgressive]
    #14358326 - 04/26/11 10:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Man, you sure are getting offended over nothing.

All I said was that your post had basically no content. Why should I care about your opinion if you don't support it?

It's in the description of the forum:

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Re: So Einstein believed in god . . . [Re: PassiveAgressive]
    #14358335 - 04/26/11 10:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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No.



Great post, you really said a lot. :congrats:





It was actually a pretty zen-like answer IMO.

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