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Angel_Above
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Re: DMT Extraction - Layers not separating? [Re: Angel_Above]
#14345184 - 04/24/11 07:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Since I don't much care anymore as the 250 g was a gift (I can get 200 more when I feel prepared with the AB tek) I did a hot water bath. We'll see what happens in a bit
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Re: DMT Extraction - Layers not separating? [Re: Angel_Above]
#14346467 - 04/24/11 11:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Cool cool, well good luck and dont be too bummed if it doesnt work out as planned the first go around. I know my friend's sure didn't.
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Angel_Above
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Re: DMT Extraction - Layers not separating? [Re: cogent]
#14354602 - 04/26/11 11:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well... I'm not sure if the naphtha layer is getting larger or not, but when would be a good time to take out the naphtha I have as my latch ditch effor to get some powder/crystals from the mix?
I was thinking that if I let it sit upright as much as possible, doing a hot water bath over the next few days (2-3) that that will yield the most possible available naphtha on the top layer of mix, and from that I can safely say that it is the most naphtha I will ever get out of it. Doing a final freeze/evap and calling it quits for this one until next time?
Let me know what you think.
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Re: DMT Extraction - Layers not separating? [Re: Angel_Above]
#14355410 - 04/26/11 02:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Do you have a stainless kitchen tool like a wire whisk or something very similar? You can open the jar and slowly and gently squeeze down on the bark to see if that liberates the missing naphtha...like gently squeezing water out of a sponge. Then carefully withdraw the tool and allow the jar to sit upright for a bit.
Do it in the sink or a painter's bucket in case there is a minor spill.
The FINAL potential avenue (if you are CONVINCED there's naphtha in there) is to strain all the bark out using a colander or large strainer, leaving ONLY LIQUID (presumably water and naphtha) and transfer THAT to a tallish jar for the inevitable separation.
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Re: DMT Extraction - Layers not separating? [Re: Nature Boy]
#14360529 - 04/27/11 10:52 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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You did 250 g mhrb 250 gram lye and a gallon of total water?
I will tell you one thing - if you used a gallon of water, that's not enough lye. Your bark is never breaking down and that's why it's never coughing up the emulsed naphtha. You're basing the total volume of solution. It's a ratio of lye:bark&water not a ratio of lye:bark that works in any amount of water.
There's a lot of hate for straight to base, but seriously it's like a 3 step process that gets you a nearly total yield with cheap supplies...That's what we call "good science"
It works just fine with powdered bark, in fact it works better
One longshot you might want to look at is if your naphtha is actually just evaping out of your container. Just a stray thought. If your container is leaking air, you could be losing some since you're heating it.
Edited by JohnnyConverse (04/27/11 06:08 PM)
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Re: DMT Extraction - Layers not separating? [Re: JohnnyConverse]
#14365382 - 04/28/11 06:35 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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So this method is worth doing on further extractions, just with a lower amount of water? Man everyone changes what "should" be done in regard to certain contingencies.
I ended up getting frustrated and taking out 125 mL of naphtha (all I could get out) last night and put it in the freezer. Got some little goodies in there. . I'm horrible at eyeballing, but it looks less than last time so we'll go wit .3-.4 grams.
Since I did it last night around 9 PM and it's been 10 and a half hours, I'll keep it in there until 5 PM tonight so it is near 24 hours. My freezer is very very cold.
What should I do with that extra naphtha though? Keep it for a later extraction since it probably has some residual DMT? I will be unable to evaporate, plus if I'm freezing, I don't see evaporating 125 mL yielding more than .1 grams.
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Re: DMT Extraction - Layers not separating? [Re: Angel_Above]
#14366450 - 04/28/11 11:35 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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up to you I guess two pipeloads is worth a pull IMO
You can always just dump it back in your naptha.
There's NOTHING wrong with this extraction. STB works very, very well on MHRB, chemically speaking .... all the kinks people hit with it are simple logistical problems
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