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OfflineJoeisthevolcano
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Ovoids in Seattle, WA!
    #14345636 - 04/24/11 09:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Hello all! Today, i decided to go check one of my spots that had some active psilocybes growing there last spring and to my knowledge we never really figured out what they were. it seems that they are similar if not the same as the Ovoids down in Cali. well...they're back! i scoped it out a few weeks ago and saw nothing, but looks like they're starting to pop back up! i had my camera with me but its batteries died before i came across them so i had to use my phone. luckly i have a nice phone some the photos are decent. anyway, here is what i found today!



all the mushrooms above are all the same species. the gill color is alot lighter then these next ones which are also active and are the same species..i think? ive seen them growing together and have seen mixed variations of the two. heres the other.."style" i guess hahah



now i havent been home yet, im at my parents right now. but when i do get home ill be sure to post more. and when i go back out again in a few days ill get alot more pics of the pins and what not. theres quite a few pins too so...well see what happens! hope everyone had a good Earth Week/Earth Day this last week and on friday....o yeah and easter if anyone celebrates that. Happy Hunting!!!

P.S. i really want to try and focus on finding morels this year so if anyone can give me any pointers that would be much appreciated! ive checked alot of spots/woods im familiar with but haven't had any luck yet :frown:


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: Joeisthevolcano]
    #14345693 - 04/24/11 09:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

FUCK YA JOE!!! :wow:


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #14345741 - 04/24/11 09:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Maaaaaaaaaaan

Finding those would make my day!

Nice.... Would like to hear what they are too


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #14345761 - 04/24/11 09:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I really want to come across these in Oregon, maybe since its not freezing at night for the past couple days I will get out there.


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: HighOregonCouple]
    #14346141 - 04/24/11 10:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Sweet man! It's nice to see some pics of these from WA. I might have to go looking tomorrow after work:tongue2: Awesome finds:super: Also for the morels, either check around cottonwoods on the west side, or just roam the woods on the east side. Some of the passes are good as well.


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: NeoSporen]
    #14346409 - 04/24/11 10:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Are these actually Ovoids and are there actually Ovoids in California?

...cuz from what I understand Ovoids are not a west coast species.


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: davide]
    #14346449 - 04/24/11 10:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:yourock:

You should log those on Mushroom Observer. If you are not interested, I will gladly do it for you and give you credit for the observation.


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: Twiztidsage]
    #14346576 - 04/24/11 11:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Can we get a TI confirmation? This would be pretty significant right?


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: davide]
    #14346595 - 04/24/11 11:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I am not a TI but I don't know what else they could be.


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: Twiztidsage]
    #14346623 - 04/24/11 11:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:thumbup:

here are other listed locations in WA
http://mushroomobserver.org/location/map_locations?q=4FKq


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: The Thinker]
    #14346711 - 04/24/11 11:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I've found this type at this spot last spring and the '09 fall season. At first I had no clue what they were. I was actually with john allen(mushroom john) when I found them. When I showed him he said they were cyans. But they clearly are not. I thought they were Psilocybe subaeragenescens for a while but then last spring when I posted them, people thought they were Ovoids. No microscopy has been done yet soooo...i dunno hahaha I can tell you for sure they're active and quite potent, especially the chunky ones. I kinda think they could be two different types but I aint no mycologyst....yet atleast. Auweia finds them down in san fran too. And alot too!

Im home and charging my camera battery so I can take some better pics. After I do that ill upload them to MO. Thanks though! I've missed this fourm and the people on it since last fall. Glad I'll have stuff to contribute this spring!:grin:


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: Joeisthevolcano]
    #14346773 - 04/24/11 11:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Man what kind of habitat is this in like the landscape. Outside forest or park or whst I just wsnna go look tomorrow haha...


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: HighOregonCouple]
    #14346801 - 04/25/11 12:04 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

This area was underwater about 4 weeks ago from heavy rainfall. its pretty close to a large body of water. So id say flood planes. They seem like they like wood chips too. During the fall this spot has alot of cyans growing. Good luck!


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: Joeisthevolcano]
    #14346809 - 04/25/11 12:06 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

joe your the man! i cant wait t see more pics!


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: HighOregonCouple]
    #14346837 - 04/25/11 12:12 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

hmmmm, I see, flood planes, with some woodchips, this is going to be a difficult tadk is it like a lake or river area...


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: HighOregonCouple]
    #14346861 - 04/25/11 12:18 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

A lake :slomo:but it didnt flood from the lake, just a lot of rain. Not sure if a flood area from a river would be much different. So id think both would work?


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #14346869 - 04/25/11 12:19 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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joe your the man! i cant wait t see more pics!



Aww shucks
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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: Joeisthevolcano]
    #14346876 - 04/25/11 12:21 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I think I know just the spot the next to corvallis where I fish then. Time to get the pole and pick a nick basket boo boo haha


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: HighOregonCouple]
    #14348752 - 04/25/11 11:56 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Just posted these on mushroom observer with a few more pics. I tried to upload them here but since im using my phone its not the right type of file. So if you want to see the go here http://mushroomobserver.org/66269?q=4Fki


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: Joeisthevolcano]
    #14348930 - 04/25/11 12:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'm thinking the second ones are ovoids and the first ones are something else...P. subbarueginescens? It's the stems, I have seen 100's of ovoids(look in my gallery) and never seen one with chevrons of any scales on the stems


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: SomeGuy]
    #14349313 - 04/25/11 02:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm thinking the second ones are ovoids and the first ones are something else...P. subbarueginescens? It's the stems




I am thinking the same thing. The first, chunkier batch with the wavier caps reminded me immediately of P. subaeriginescens. This particular observation came to mind... The final batch is much more reminiscent of the P. ovoideocystidiata, as paduchah pointed out.

SWEET finds regardless joe! Spring actives FTW!! :headbanger:


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P.S. i really want to try and focus on finding morels this year so if anyone can give me any pointers that would be much appreciated! ive checked alot of spots/woods im familiar with but haven't had any luck yet :frown:




I had my first success finding Morels this year, and ironically, they showed up when I wasn't even looking for them. After spending hours on end scoping natural spots I thought I might find them in, they finally reveal themselves within town, as I am walking to my work. They were popping right out of the red mulch that was surrounding some new development. Literally the next day I was walking to the bank and spotted a second patch which was sprouting over 2 miles away from the last spot - this time there were only pins popping up. But they were growing in the same red bark mulch. And next to new development.

SO... as much as it would rock to find some natural Morels, I personally feel they are just more elusive. If I were you I would be checking any new development/deconstruction zones around your city. Specifically development that occurred throughout the last year. And apparently there is a type that loves red bark mulch.... So best of luck with the Morels Joe - I send you Morel vibes in return for some nice Spring active vibes!! :smile:

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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: Oreganic]
    #14350242 - 04/25/11 05:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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paducahovoids said:
I'm thinking the second ones are ovoids and the first ones are something else...P. subbarueginescens? It's the stems




I am thinking the same thing. The first, chunkier batch with the wavier caps reminded me immediately of P. subaeriginescens. This particular observation came to mind... The final batch is much more reminiscent of the P. ovoideocystidiata, as paduchah pointed out.





That observation is ovoideocystidiata from my back yard last year.  Rugs only grow in Japan and Java.


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #14350373 - 04/25/11 05:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So these are all ovoids?


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: Joeisthevolcano]
    #14350662 - 04/25/11 06:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Psilocybe cyanofibrillosa?

These are noted for flood planes....


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: Joeisthevolcano]
    #14350701 - 04/25/11 06:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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So these are all ovoids?





Probably, check the spore size, shape and gill cystidia.


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: Joeisthevolcano]
    #14350714 - 04/25/11 06:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

https://files.shroomery.org/files/11-16/369957347-2011-04-24_14.21.41.jpg compare this stem to these they seem a lot different:shrug:


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: SomeGuy]
    #14350784 - 04/25/11 06:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Looks the same to me.


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #14351322 - 04/25/11 08:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Ive noticed that those scales are on the stems before I pick them. But once you touch the stem the scales disapear/fall off almost right away. ive seen both types with them too. The only thing that really makes me think they're different is the color of the gills. the thicker ones are much lighter. But that could be from them dropping spores? Which makes sense cause its takes alot longer for the spores from the thick ones to drop ive noticed. I dunno. They are pretty strange.

Alan is it possible if I mail you some caps that you can look at them under a scope? I dont have access to one otherwise id do it. Eh?


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: Joeisthevolcano]
    #14352096 - 04/25/11 09:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Alan please do it we all want to know! Alan = The Man!!!


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: HighOregonCouple]
    #14354605 - 04/26/11 11:16 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Probably not a good idea to mail caps .... Spore prints maybe... And watch to what state.... Just saying...

No one liked my wild guess of p. cyanofibrillosa? POTW mentions them in the PNW and relation to flood planes...  Not seen them or ovids before... Looking...


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: Joeisthevolcano]
    #14357668 - 04/26/11 08:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Flood spots on rivers are good that's where my spots are...but I never looked by lakes I'll have to try that out thanks for the idea and I was also told morels grow around apple and elm trees


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: HarryL]
    #14358026 - 04/26/11 09:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Probably not a good idea to mail caps .... Spore prints maybe... And watch to what state.... Just saying...




We mail caps around all the time, it has never been an issue.  Spores aren't enough for identification because the cystidia are on the gills.  Mailing spores to any state is not a problem.

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No one liked my wild guess of p. cyanofibrillosa? POTW mentions them in the PNW and relation to flood planes...  Not seen them or ovids before... Looking...




P. cyanofibrollosa lacks an annulus and fruits in the fall.


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: HarryL]
    #14358166 - 04/26/11 10:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Psilocybe cyanofibrillosa?

These are noted for flood planes....




these have an annulus on the stipe, i say ovoid for sure.


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #14358201 - 04/26/11 10:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thought the caps would be illegal, to have or mail. And thought spores are illegal in Ohio and California... My mistake...

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    #14358485 - 04/26/11 10:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Thought the caps would be illegal, to have or mail. And thought spores are illegal in Ohio and California...





They are, but no one cares if you mail a couple caps.  They are looking for big bags of drugs.

The spore laws are misdemeanor laws and to my knowledge have never been enforced.


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #14358561 - 04/26/11 10:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

ya its not a big deal.


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #14358794 - 04/26/11 11:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

California, Georgia, or Idaho.  Ohio is alright.


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: EnigmaticMind]
    #14359871 - 04/27/11 07:39 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for the clarification.... I really try to stay with in the law, as much as possible... Have dealt professionally with USPS and DOT regulations, and agree the chance of being caught is near zero...

Right... Ohio - Idaho ... Same place...

Kiddding!!!

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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: HarryL]
    #14359899 - 04/27/11 07:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

were wannabe scientists not drug dealers!! :lol:  i could see how your war on drugs in the states could actually fuck someone over for this tho. i really wouldnt doubt it.


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Re: Ovoids/Ruggs in WA! [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #14360151 - 04/27/11 09:10 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Ovoids in WA! [Re: Joeisthevolcano]
    #14541730 - 05/31/11 05:12 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i've been back to this spot 2 times since this first find and there hasnt been much popping up. but theres still some little patches out there. heres pics from going out on sunday. the time before that there was almost nothing worth picking.


thicker ones:



Other ones:



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Re: Ovoids in WA! [Re: Joeisthevolcano]
    #14541786 - 05/31/11 05:27 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Whats the dose on those guys?


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Re: Ovoids in WA! [Re: mushroomboro]
    #14541815 - 05/31/11 05:35 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i ate 4 of the chunky ones dried and had a mild level 3 trip. mainly visual too. was stronger then i expected :thumbup:
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Re: Ovoids in WA! [Re: Joeisthevolcano]
    #14542405 - 05/31/11 07:57 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

funny, in the ovoid thread they have been talking about how they are not a very visual mushroom. :shrug:


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Re: Ovoids in WA! [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #14542740 - 05/31/11 09:10 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

man oh MAN those are awesome:awesomenod::congrats: WOW man congrats

if your making some foil prints id be a honor to snag some up:mushroom2::heart:
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Re: Ovoids in WA! [Re: sporeRider]
    #14542906 - 05/31/11 09:39 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Could you describe the features and characteristics of the habitat? It looks like they are growing out of just soil, are there woodchips? Is it soil with debris mixed in from being flooded? What is the nearby vegetation like? Looks like mainly tall grass, sedges, and maybe some small plants? Open area? Are there trees? what type?  Would you consider the area more of a Natural area? as compared to Cyans growing of landscapings and man made habitats/wood chippings.
Sorry for all the questions, im trying to paint a good mental image of habitat. I know these exist in my area as I have two friends that have found these, but I really would like to find a patch.

Great finds too! Got me all worked up to hunt! The boatloads
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    #14553965 - 06/03/11 01:30 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Im in Willamette Valley and I just want to stumble on these so bad!


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    #14558636 - 06/04/11 01:49 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I dont mind the questions at all. The area where I found them is a small natural restoration area. Its not near any river or stream but is next to a lake and a small pond. Probably 150 feet away. Ive see this place slightly flooded during a couple days of heavy rainfall. They seem to like to grow right next to (almost inside) large bunches of praire grass(not sure what its called). Most of this area is woodchiped(GREAT for cyans in the fall) but there are areas where they grow from just soil/dirt. seems to be alot of alder and cotton wood trees, young and old. But im pretty bad IDing trees so it may be a similar type. about a month ago I found a morel randomly growing within 10 feet of a small patch. And there is quite a bit of open area but also lots of blackberry bushes. Ive found them growing in the fall at this spot too. I also find ALOT of cyans and quite a,few "cyanofriscosas" too. I think those have a different name now though. If you want some prints id be glad to send you some!


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Re: Ovoids in WA on June 6th!!!! [Re: Joeisthevolcano]
    #14574912 - 06/07/11 02:57 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

This is still my first year as a mushroom hunter and before yesterday the only actives I'd ever found and identified were cyans last fall.  Yesterday I went back to a spot that I had been to a few days earlier (where there were thousands of agrocybe) in the hopes of finding some ovoids.  It rained about four days ago but the last two days had been in the 70s so I wanted to try and find some actives before they completely burned up.  After about 45 minutes of searching I got lucky and found what I believe to be p. ovoids for my first time ever!!  Was very excited because I had seen people say subs and stuntzii were the only thing to be looking for.  The ovoids i found (which i'm pretty certain they are) are very different from the ones joe found, much less chunky and growing out of bark.\


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Re: Ovoids in WA on June 6th!!!! [Re: MattgicMushMush]
    #14574972 - 06/07/11 03:10 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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This is still my first year as a mushroom hunter and before yesterday the only actives I'd ever found and identified were cyans last fall.  Yesterday I went back to a spot that I had been to a few days earlier (where there were thousands of agrocybe) in the hopes of finding some ovoids.  It rained about four days ago but the last two days had been in the 70s so I wanted to try and find some actives before they completely burned up.  After about 45 minutes of searching I got lucky and found what I believe to be p. ovoids for my first time ever!!  Was very excited because I had seen people say subs and stuntzii were the only thing to be looking for.  The ovoids i found (which i'm pretty certain they are) are very different from the ones joe found, much less chunky and growing out of bark.\





Crazy.. you certainly found some Ovoids. Looks like a little persistence paid oh, eh? Really cool. However, I would be careful about which ones you are picking and eating since a lot of them look really dry and indistinguishable to me. I personally would stick to the ones showing the heavy bluing like in that 2nd pic. Mind if I ask your location?


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Re: Ovoids in WA on June 6th!!!! [Re: Oreganic]
    #14575025 - 06/07/11 03:23 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

nice finds dude! Yea, those third ones scare me, they don't look right. Bring them on over to you own thread:awesomenod:


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    #14575094 - 06/07/11 03:38 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Ovoids in WA on June 6th!!!! [Re: Oreganic]
    #14575479 - 06/07/11 04:58 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Crazy.. you certainly found some Ovoids. Looks like a little persistence paid oh, eh? Really cool. However, I would be careful about which ones you are picking and eating since a lot of them look really dry and indistinguishable to me. I personally would stick to the ones showing the heavy bluing like in that 2nd pic. Mind if I ask your location?




Yah man I fucking do mind..
Haha I'm just kidding.  I'm in North Seattle and I found them within half a mile of Lake Washington.  After hunting for numerous hours a few days and finding various monster patches of conocybe and agrocybe and optimistically hoping that they may be ovoids or subaerguinosa(some of them do kinda resemble the cyan waves) I decided to go one last time around where I found cyans in the fall and was really surprised to actually find something active. 
How new are ovoids to the Seattle area and how common are they?

I went through my findings and threw away everything that wasn't distinguishably beautiful blue.

About the third pic, The mushrooms pictured are definitely not ovoids or actives although they do have an interesting shape to them.  Should I start a new thread to try and id those?

Also a couple things I noticed/was surprised by
-the stems on the ovoids were less dense and much hollower (especially on the dried up ones obviously) then cyans or anything I thought would be active
- I only found the actives on hills
- I know they are extremely similar to cyans but it still amazes me how much they look like them when they are dry.  The hollower stems and d is the only difference I can make out on most of them.


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Re: Ovoids in WA on June 6th!!!! [Re: MattgicMushMush]
    #14575985 - 06/07/11 06:43 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Ovoids are known from the west coast only in the past 5 years or so and are only known as a described species since '96. Pretty new

The seattle area and the San Francisco bay area have the most finds for west coast Ovoids. Your maybe the 8th person ive heard of finding them in Seattle. Probably less. This could be cause they are rare or it could be cause people don't really look for them like they do Cyans.

Although im extremely jelous i have to give you some serious, serious credit for just going out and finding these. Ive been trying since Coolboarderguy found them in my area, but i still haven't found them. You set your mind to finding these and you did! It may not have required years of diligent hunting, but its fuckin' awesome none the less. All of these-:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:- for you and your ovoids. Oh, and one of these:hissyfit:


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Re: Ovoids in WA on June 6th!!!! [Re: ehtdaedlufetarg]
    #14576997 - 06/07/11 09:56 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

ya you are the man dude, wtf!!!!!! :argh: i am soooooo jealous.


so were these sharing the same habitat as the Argocybes?


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Re: Ovoids in WA on June 6th!!!! [Re: ehtdaedlufetarg]
    #14577003 - 06/07/11 09:57 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

MattgicMushMush: I would say the mushrooms in your 3rd pic look like a type of agrocybe. do you have anymore pictures? Id def start a new thread if so. Im finding these close to lake washington too. I plan on going back to my spot tomorrow. Hopefully theres stuff growing. After seeing your post I think there probably will be, especially after the rain we got today. Lets just hope our spots aren't the same spot :wink: hahaha. Ill post pics in the next couple days. Happy hunting!

P.s. Seems that those agrocybes are growing everywhere right now!


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Re: Ovoids in WA on June 6th!!!! [Re: Joeisthevolcano]
    #14577167 - 06/07/11 10:23 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Everywhere. Every city in the PNW. Every spring.  They're so boring  other than their prolific fruiting. Even that gets old when your looking for morels or Ovoids.:tongue:


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Re: Ovoids in WA on June 6th!!!! [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #14578015 - 06/08/11 02:14 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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ya you are the man dude, wtf!!!!!! :argh: i am soooooo jealous.


so were these sharing the same habitat as the Argocybes?





Yah they were right around a number of different somewhat similar looking species, if someone could help me id a few of the look a likes I'd greatly appreciate it.
I think a lot of the look a likes are a couple types of agrocybe and also some stropharia ambigua and maybe conocybe filaris as well if those are found around the PNW.  Here are some of the other I found if peops could help me id.

agrocybe praecox?


Another agrocybe


Not sure about this one, another A. praecox?


Conocybe?


I'd appreciate anyone knowledgeable's input.  I've been seeing lot's of all of these around.
Also besides the blueing are there any other sure giveaways for ovoids/subs?


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Re: Ovoids in WA on June 6th!!!! [Re: MattgicMushMush]
    #14578100 - 06/08/11 02:50 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Your Conocybe is also A. praecox or A. putaminum.


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Re: Ovoids in WA on June 6th!!!! [Re: ehtdaedlufetarg]
    #14578662 - 06/08/11 08:18 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Joe... Do some spore prints and/or start some stem butts in egg cartons, and spread the love (spray new patches). It would be super to get a real spring flush in Seattle like we get in the fall with cyans.

New species can be spread by lucky folks like yourself... Also, don't just toss away your old nasty 'I would not eat that one' mushrooms.... Shred and drop in pokey habitats. Even take the paper they dry in, wash in a bowl of water and distribute to likely areas...


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Re: Ovoids in WA on June 6th!!!! [Re: HarryL]
    #14612363 - 06/14/11 01:55 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

ok well, heres the pics from when i went out last week after my last post. they're still growing thats for sure. i plan on going out again in a few days so hopefully ill be able to get some more pics. i have some prints that are ready to send out. think im gonna do that today and tomorrow and ill get the samples for Alan sent out by this weekend.:ooo:


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Re: Ovoids in WA on June 6th!!!! [Re: Joeisthevolcano]
    #14612662 - 06/14/11 02:59 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Great finds and good to see you attempting to propagate further. I'm sure a few people putting in the effort to spread these pups would result in a much greater foothold of this species in your area as they are sooooo aggresive :awesomenod:

The greatest tip I had by the way was to put the stem butts straight to chip, some soaked fine sawdust and small chips on top of that egg box and growth would explode so long as kept moist :stirthepot:

The P. Subaeruginascens / P. Ovoideocystidiata question has intrigued me greatly recently after really sinking teeth into this thread. Could we have a similar conundrum here?


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Re: Ovoids in WA on June 6th!!!! [Re: UK Explorer]
    #14613781 - 06/14/11 06:55 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Damn, I just know they are out around here in Oregon to I just dont really know where to look!


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Re: Ovoids in WA on June 6th!!!! [Re: HighOregonCouple]
    #14616406 - 06/15/11 09:06 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks Joe for taking the lead of spreading those guys in our area. Love to see more spring actives!!! Get tired of hearing all the goodies on the East coast and South.... And us high and dry, figuratively speaking.
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Re: Ovoids in WA June 15th [Re: HarryL]
    #14620717 - 06/16/11 01:40 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

So after some warm weather in Seattle the last week or so we finally had a good amount of rain last night.  Went to the ovoid patch i found a week and a half ago (my first ovoid finds and second actives find ever) and found some previously small pins augmenting nicely !!!  Only got one pic today but when I go back this weekend to pick some of these beauties I will take more pics and post. 
These are potent fuckers.  2 grams dry had me tripping balls somewhat equivalent to a 3 gram dry cyan trip, and I hope to try out a 3.5 or 4 gram trip in the next week or two when I think I'm mentally prepared.. Have yielded about 2 ounces dry since stumbling across the patch.  Will keep people updated but they are out there in western Washington and they are amazing.  I will also do my part in helping to spread them.


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    #14621324 - 06/16/11 07:30 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Awesome Matt!  That is a good yield!


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Re: Ovoids in WA [Re: HarryL]
    #14638593 - 06/19/11 04:29 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Picture of a crazy looking ovoid I took about three days ago.  Didin't pick that one.  Also a shot of what I found today back at the patch after some rain.



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