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A type of Fruiting Chamber
    #14345469 - 04/24/11 10:40 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

Years ago my friend had 2 fruiting chambers he made from clear, plastic, portable, Sterlite file boxes. He used perlite, but didn't put any holes in the plastic. He may have taped the openings at the tops where the handles were attached, but I don't remember. What I do remember is that it held humidity and his stuff grew pretty well. I've been searching posts about fruiting chambers but haven't yet found any information on this type of FC.


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Re: A type of Fruiting Chamber [Re: MadamLeMorte]
    #14345505 - 04/24/11 10:45 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

No holes and a taped up lid? Sounds pretty ridiculous, mushrooms need fresh air to grow.  I think you'd best do some research starting with the basics, sounds like you're out of touch with the process.


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Re: A type of Fruiting Chamber [Re: MadamLeMorte] * 1
    #14345531 - 04/24/11 10:48 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

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Years ago my friend had 2 fruiting chambers he made from clear, plastic, portable, Sterlite file boxes. He used perlite, but didn't put any holes in the plastic. He may have taped the openings at the tops where the handles were attached, but I don't remember. What I do remember is that it held humidity and his stuff grew pretty well. I've been searching posts about fruiting chambers but haven't yet found any information on this type of FC.





that sounds like a tek from the old days when we didnt know how important FAE is to a grow, and that its a really important pinning trigger ( as it causes evaporation of moisture, and fluctautes humidity levels)

www.mushroomvideos.com

has videos explaining the pf grow, and shows you how to build a simple and effective fruiting chamber.


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Re: A type of Fruiting Chamber [Re: MadamLeMorte]
    #14345538 - 04/24/11 10:49 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

Its not really a popular method for growing. For one it would definitely need some holes drilled in it to allow FAE.

This would be a better choice of vessel for a fruiting chamber.



Then you can just stack them instead of being confined in a file cabinet set up. It is just an all around better option whether you are going to make it a shotgun or mono.


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Re: A type of Fruiting Chamber [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14345629 - 04/24/11 11:03 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

I watched the videos multiple times. That's why I was asking about the FC. It seems like more moisture would escape through the holes than if it had no holes and were fanned. If I knew I wouldn't be asking.


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Re: A type of Fruiting Chamber [Re: MadamLeMorte]
    #14345670 - 04/24/11 11:10 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

You want to have holes. How are you planning on growing them? cakes?


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Re: A type of Fruiting Chamber [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14345734 - 04/24/11 11:21 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

Cakes were what he used.


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Re: A type of Fruiting Chamber [Re: MadamLeMorte]
    #14345755 - 04/24/11 11:26 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

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I watched the videos multiple times. That's why I was asking about the FC. It seems like more moisture would escape through the holes than if it had no holes and were fanned. If I knew I wouldn't be asking.





no the holes not only help with FAE they also help with humidity, its all explained on that side. This is a fruiting chamber that has been tested over time, it was developed based on sound science.

having good fae not only is an important pinning trigger, its important for the development of healthy looking mushrooms (mushrooms that are grown with poor fae grow thin and not very straight) and good fae will prevent contamination during fruiting.

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he theory of operation for the shotgun mushroom fruiting chamber is that natural air currents travel from areas of high pressure to areas of low pressure. Cool air has the molecules closer together than warm air, thus cool air is at a slightly higher pressure than warm air. When we put several inches of damp perlite in the bottom of our terrarium, we create an area with a slightly cooler temperature than the air above, which is exposed to lights that create heat, and our mushroom substrates, which are often at up to a few degrees warmer than the surrounding air due to thermogenesis.




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Lets Grow Mushrooms - RogerRabbit & RoadKills website with sample videos plus the full PF TEK video series. Alot of great information - BUY THE DVD
Cakes can and will pin! - So you think cakes suck for pins. Your wrong
Franks Simple Coir/Verm Tek
Franks Proper Pasturisation Tek
Franks Spawning To Bulk - Monotub
Professor Pinheads RTV Injection Port Tek
Foo Mans No Soak WBS Prep Tek


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Re: A type of Fruiting Chamber [Re: veda_sticks]
    #14345771 - 04/24/11 11:28 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

We talk all about FAE, here <-


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Re: A type of Fruiting Chamber [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14347938 - 04/25/11 10:16 AM (10 years, 26 days ago)

Due to space constraints can those FCs be made with 2 smaller containers like the one my friend had?


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Re: A type of Fruiting Chamber [Re: MadamLeMorte]
    #14347962 - 04/25/11 10:25 AM (10 years, 26 days ago)

he had 2 chambers right on top of each other? A dubtub, we call it. You CAN just slap those cakes in a tupperware, but to make it work, you'll be fanning/misting/messing with it a lot search for dub-tub


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Re: A type of Fruiting Chamber [Re: SomeGuy]
    #14347971 - 04/25/11 10:26 AM (10 years, 26 days ago)

They weren't on top of each other. Just 2 small FCs side by side. They fit in the closet better that one of those big tubs.


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Re: A type of Fruiting Chamber [Re: MadamLeMorte]
    #14347994 - 04/25/11 10:34 AM (10 years, 26 days ago)

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he had 2 chambers right on top of each other? A dubtub, we call it. You CAN just slap those cakes in a tupperware, but to make it work, you'll be fanning/misting/messing with it a lot search for dub-tub



Thats what I was going to suggest, but he said something about Perlite in the tub...
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They weren't on top of each other. Just 2 small FCs side by side. They fit in the closet better that one of those big tubs.



Is there a reason you have to put them in a closet?? You can use any Size tub, Most of mine are Small Sterlites. But I grow for my consumption only. You just wont have much room for many cakes. Mine doesnt have holes. I simply just mist and fan regularly. I clip one side of the lid down and the other I clip but not on the lid. So there is a nice little gap. Your closet regaurdless wont have even moving air for FAE. Do you plan on using a fan?


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Re: A type of Fruiting Chamber [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #14348015 - 04/25/11 10:39 AM (10 years, 26 days ago)

They each fit 6. Also I thought fanning a couple of times a day was enough FAE.


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Re: A type of Fruiting Chamber [Re: MadamLeMorte]
    #14348023 - 04/25/11 10:42 AM (10 years, 26 days ago)

A couple?? I fan almost 8 Times per day, or sometimes every hour. Its a must if your not putting holes in your FC. And even then I still have my lid cracked in an open room with a ceiling fan running on low. I dont recommend my method to anyone. It just works well enough for me. Build a proper one, just click on my Link below and watch the videos.


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Re: A type of Fruiting Chamber [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #14348057 - 04/25/11 10:55 AM (10 years, 26 days ago)

As you may have guessed, there are ten million ways to die, just as there are ten million containers used for growin. The container itself isn't really of huge importance as long as it's modified the right way. Once  you take the time to understand the mushroom life-cycle you usually have enough knowledge to grow in a tackle-box or whatever container you wish, as long as it meets with the requirements of the mushroom - and won't be consumed by the mushroom IE - Tin vs. mushroom metabolites = dissolved tin.


This guy used a milk jug, what can't be used?


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Re: A type of Fruiting Chamber [Re: PassiveAgressive]
    #14348072 - 04/25/11 10:58 AM (10 years, 26 days ago)

I still have a Milk Jug, and a 2 liter pop bottle that I use occasionally for little 4 oz. cakes. Your right there is no limit as to what can be used.


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Re: A type of Fruiting Chamber [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #14348134 - 04/25/11 11:19 AM (10 years, 26 days ago)


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Re: A type of Fruiting Chamber [Re: SomeGuy]
    #14362905 - 04/27/11 08:47 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

Thanks guys! This helped clear up some confusion. Now to put holes in my containers before I need them.


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Re: A type of Fruiting Chamber [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #14362970 - 04/27/11 08:58 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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A couple?? I fan almost 8 Times per day, or sometimes every hour. Its a must if your not putting holes in your FC. And even then I still have my lid cracked in an open room with a ceiling fan running on low. I dont recommend my method to anyone. It just works well enough for me. Build a proper one, just click on my Link below and watch the videos.




So..you run back and forth between misting and fanning to giving cultivation advice that you would yourself take were you not so busy misting, fanning, and giving cultivation advice?
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