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Re: DXM (Dextromorphan or Cough medicine)? [Re: DeliriumTrigger]
    #14468031 - 05/17/11 01:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

DXM definitely isnt for everyone.

Different people have different brains- Neural Connections/Pathways, associations, observations, perspectives, ideologies, etc.. People differ dramatically in their objectiveness or in their emotional mapping..

DXM effects 4 different receptor sites, and completely alters brain functioning on very different levels then other psychoactive.. Entire regions of the brain are basically shut down on higher doses, without effecting other functions at all.. And depending upon how a persons brain is webbed, the DXM can have dramatically different kinds of sensations from one person to the next..

I've also noticed that people who didnt like DXM the first time they tried it (typically a smaller dose), higher doses were more enjoyable for them (though, an experienced DXM tripper there seems to help), and after getting the know the substance better, where able to acquire the kinds of effects they liked through dosage, and personal experience (state of mind before ingestion, and during the trip)..


But again, DXM is not for everyone, and when people do find what they like from it, they can be very different then others who really like it as well.
Though, there seems to be a general consensus that this substance has a certain kind of anti-depressant action for a wide group of people.. (and often these people have addictive reactions/potentials with DXM) and another group that completely just can't stand the stuff.. Where it actually is disphoric and negative.. No matter the dose, and set/setting..

So, if I may, don't dis the substance- rather know thyself, and one's preferences, experience it first hand, re-evaluate, and decide if it is for you or not.

I personally love the stuff, at times it can be very dishporic, but again that often equates to my mental state, and the set/setting.. (reckless tripping basically)- But generally, when i dose it right (i'm still exploring various dosages)- it can be one of the most amazing experiences ever. Complete Peace, and Acceptance, Objectivity(as subjectively possible), and Oneness.. Not too far akin from certain Mushroom or LSA experiences of Unity.. (which i've yet to experience on LSD..) -though with Mush and LSA, there is a distinct difference of feeling- One is very passionate and awe(some)-inspiring.. where DXM is again more peace-filled, and calm.. Pure joy, but meditatively so- very inwardly..

anyway, Trip On, and learn your ropes, and maybe come back with some new rules..(or rather essences/essentials)



A way I often describe the difference between DXM and other psychoactives like mush/lsa/dmt, is that DXM actually quiets down the surface noises, the surface tensions, the surface static.. and allows one to feel the subtle sensations..
Where-as the others, will enhance/increase ones inner senses, allowing one to also experience the subtler vibrations/energies. :smile:


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Re: DXM (Dextromorphan or Cough medicine)? [Re: FunkMasterShroom]
    #14470354 - 05/17/11 10:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I've tried it twice.  I would not consider it a psychedelic; though it did give me pretty crazy CEV's and colors appeared brighter.  The CEV's lack the structure of traditional psychedelics.  For me, they were swirling beams of color. It is an insane experience. I also felt like the walls and floor were moving, but it's not like they "breath;" it's different. I felt like I could travel anywhere in the universe when I closed my eyes, and I remember seeing Saturn, lol.  I remember not being able to tell which way was up and which was down.  It also became difficult for me to sense the position of my limbs in space.  At one point I felt like I was just a point in space.  Music sounded pretty awesome.  The downsides are it makes walking difficult; all I wanted to do was lie in bed.  Also, I felt like shit the day after.  My head felt numb and I just generally did not feel healthy.  In my experience, it doesn't really seem to mesh with the mind and body like fungus and lsd, as far as feeling good and healthy during and after the experience.


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Re: DXM (Dextromorphan or Cough medicine)? [Re: breeg89]
    #14470641 - 05/17/11 10:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Its definately psychedellic...it would be a lot more worth it if I could remember any of it.


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Re: DXM (Dextromorphan or Cough medicine)? [Re: dubsideofthemoon]
    #14471940 - 05/18/11 06:54 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Re: title, for reference its actually "Dextromethorphan".

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Its definitely psychedelic...it would be a lot more worth it if I could remember any of it.




This. Despite the above because I do remember enough occasionally - it's still my favourite drug for a number of reasons.

I once expected credits to roll at the end of an experience, but it didn't actually happen. I remember the sheer level of amazement I had, but not what caused the amazement. :confused:

Last night went to the 4th plateau* looking for the bottom of the rabbit hole - as a retrospective, it seemed like I was intent on extending it. Didn't find the bottom but did manage to create a few new dimensions by stitching together a couple of universes along some interesting new seams I came up with.

* Only my second time despite many 3rd plateau experiences.

Our universe is but a grain of sand in the ever expanding multiverse that is our infinite self. It's also like a computer function which is building up to _potentially_ get recursively called sometime between now and 2012-21-21. This is why a lot of you may be noticing more deja vu, coincidences/synchronicities, finding other people keep having the same idea just before you do, and generally feeling more 'awake' and the like.

Or something :tongue:

I don't (yet?) truly know if any of the above is true or not, but I enjoyed finding out nonetheless.

That's what 1500mg* of DXM with minor potentiation via grapefruit juice did to me (just under 90kg) and my brain/mind.

* This is a very heavy dose, DXM is bodyweight dependent. Please take great care when trying this substance for the first time - depending on your weight and various enzymes (or lack thereof) this could be a life threatening dosage. Do your research, read the FAQ, check out dosage calculators etc. etc. My first dose was 30mg, and I weighed over 100kg at the time.

Be safe, take care and love to all.


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Re: DXM (Dextromorphan or Cough medicine)? [Re: huxmush]
    #14471945 - 05/18/11 06:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

its a dissociative drug not a psyechedelic drug so its in the class of K and PCP i believe and not LSD and mushies. It is important to be responsible while tripping, i once had a party with a few friends where only 1 stayed sober, the rest got drunk off their asses and one altered his conconciouss for the first time and he trusted me and we shared some dex. Needless to say its hard as hell trying to keep drunk people away from your parents, at night, in the woods with only a fire as your light lol...not a responsible decsion to chug that night


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Re: DXM (Dextromorphan or Cough medicine)? [Re: InTiMiDaToRdInO]
    #14472057 - 05/18/11 07:53 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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its a dissociative drug not a psyechedelic drug so its in the class of K and PCP i believe and not LSD and mushies. It is important to be responsible while tripping, i once had a party with a few friends where only 1 stayed sober, the rest got drunk off their asses and one altered his conconciouss for the first time and he trusted me and we shared some dex. Needless to say its hard as hell trying to keep drunk people away from your parents, at night, in the woods with only a fire as your light lol...not a responsible decsion to chug that night



I've always heard it described as  a "Psychedelic Dissociative". It seems like an apt description, but I've never done any psychedelic past pot, so I don't know.


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Re: DXM (Dextromorphan or Cough medicine)? [Re: DeliriumTrigger]
    #14473015 - 05/18/11 12:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

weed is Psychedelic?!? holy hell i didn't know that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelic_drug

"A psychedelic substance is a psychoactive drug whose primary action is to alter cognition and perception. Psychedelics are part of a wider class of psychoactive drugs known as hallucinogens, a class that also includes related substances such as dissociatives(DXM) and deliriants...."

"...psychedelics tend to affect and explore the mind in ways that result in the experience being qualitatively different from those of ordinary consciousness...."

"... Cannabis, one of the most widely used psychoactive drugs in the world, produces effects similar to low doses of classic psychedelics, though at higher doses or in susceptible individuals it can be quite psychedelic, depending on the strain...."

wow whadaya know?


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Re: DXM (Dextromorphan or Cough medicine)? [Re: InTiMiDaToRdInO]
    #14473065 - 05/18/11 12:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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That's what 1500mg* of DXM with minor potentiation via grapefruit juice did to me (just under 90kg) and my brain/mind.




Jesus.. I'm a pretty regular DXM user, and the last time I took anything more then 700mg (all at once), was 1000mg, and I was messed outta my tree.. I cant even begin to describe the feelings/sensations.. Especially walking around.. now that was Incredible.. But the come up was rough, and hard to handle..  I'm sure when I first started doing it, I had done a good 1400mg once or twice.. (two 8oz bottles)- cant totally remember.. But seriously, Idono now if I could handle much more then a gram of the stuff...


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Re: DXM (Dextromorphan or Cough medicine)? [Re: FunkMasterShroom]
    #14473379 - 05/18/11 01:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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That's what 1500mg* of DXM with minor potentiation via grapefruit juice did to me (just under 90kg) and my brain/mind.




Jesus.. I'm a pretty regular DXM user, and the last time I took anything more then 700mg (all at once), was 1000mg, and I was messed outta my tree.. I cant even begin to describe the feelings/sensations.. Especially walking around.. now that was Incredible.. But the come up was rough, and hard to handle..  I'm sure when I first started doing it, I had done a good 1400mg once or twice.. (two 8oz bottles)- cant totally remember.. But seriously, Idono now if I could handle much more then a gram of the stuff...




wow yeah my highest has only around 700mg give or take a few mg and that was uncomfortable for me unless I was off on my journey through the universe that was waaaay too realistic to be laying on a small cot and not a normal sized bed. but 1500mg!!! I just can't imagine that, my experience from roughly 600mg and 700mg was enormous and I wouldnt exactly consider it a full 4th, I definately finally pulled myself totally out of my body and went to like some other planet but it wasn't wasn't a sub-anesthetic effect and such like a 4th should be i think


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Re: DXM (Dextromorphan or Cough medicine)? [Re: InTiMiDaToRdInO]
    #14473517 - 05/18/11 02:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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weed is Psychedelic?!? holy hell i didn't know that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelic_drug

"A psychedelic substance is a psychoactive drug whose primary action is to alter cognition and perception. Psychedelics are part of a wider class of psychoactive drugs known as hallucinogens, a class that also includes related substances such as dissociatives(DXM) and deliriants...."

"...psychedelics tend to affect and explore the mind in ways that result in the experience being qualitatively different from those of ordinary consciousness...."

"... Cannabis, one of the most widely used psychoactive drugs in the world, produces effects similar to low doses of classic psychedelics, though at higher doses or in susceptible individuals it can be quite psychedelic, depending on the strain...."
wow whadaya know?



Never heard that before?

I don't know if I totally agree with it

But for as long as I remember...Cannabis is categorized as a little of everything...'sedative, intoxicant, stimulant, psychedelic...' Which is totally true in my experience. A little of everything but not a lot of anything in particular. I wouldn't call it a psychedelic but it definitely has psychedelic properties.


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Re: DXM (Dextromorphan or Cough medicine)? [Re: drr]
    #14473764 - 05/18/11 02:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

My tolerance to weed is extremely low. If I smoke a couple hits of schwag I trip out and go to another universe. If I smoke a hit of "chronic" (in the parlance of my area) I an achieve ego loss.

I've been interested in why the effects weed has on me is so different than what other people experience. I've learned from observing and interacting with other smokers that they do get the similar effects. It's just not as potent a drug for most people.

So I try to gently push them to smoke more weed. Even though I don't smoke anymore, I am always the one who loads the pipe/bong. I always suggest knife hits or gravity bongs when the opportunity for those things comes up.

Basically, I politely, considerately do everything I can to encourage my friends to experience what a full blown weed trip is like. For me, it's more powerful than a 3.5g mushroom trip. It's more energetic than acid. The body high borders on becoming a body load as the weed makes you more and more aware of the position of your back, neck, head, arms and legs. The visuals are by far the most intense I've ever experienced. Talking to people who are made of huge, dank nugs; talking to god through the translator that is my brick wall; watching the universe collapse to a single point, seeing it pop out of existence, and then explode brilliantly around me.

Sorry to hijack the thread here, but I have to know if anyone here has ever experienced this phenomenon.

If any of you find any of what I said about my weed trips to be intriguing, please consider trying to achieve such a state. I have never spoken to another person who has seen what weed can do.

If you have the time, money, resources and interest, please make a very strong glycerin tincture and chug as much of that shit as you can; or smoke as much weed as you can afford to smoke in one sitting; maybe even make a small batch of potent cookies and eat them all. To get there, you pretty much need to keep ingesting weed until you're so stoned that you can't understand how to ingest it anymore. Then kick back, get comfy, and let your mind explore the insanity of the weed universe.


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Re: DXM (Dextromorphan or Cough medicine)? [Re: healing]
    #14474037 - 05/18/11 03:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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My tolerance to weed is extremely low. If I smoke a couple hits of schwag I trip out and go to another universe. If I smoke a hit of "chronic" (in the parlance of my area) I an achieve ego loss.

I've been interested in why the effects weed has on me is so different than what other people experience. I've learned from observing and interacting with other smokers that they do get the similar effects. It's just not as potent a drug for most people.

So I try to gently push them to smoke more weed. Even though I don't smoke anymore, I am always the one who loads the pipe/bong. I always suggest knife hits or gravity bongs when the opportunity for those things comes up.

Basically, I politely, considerately do everything I can to encourage my friends to experience what a full blown weed trip is like. For me, it's more powerful than a 3.5g mushroom trip. It's more energetic than acid. The body high borders on becoming a body load as the weed makes you more and more aware of the position of your back, neck, head, arms and legs. The visuals are by far the most intense I've ever experienced. Talking to people who are made of huge, dank nugs; talking to god through the translator that is my brick wall; watching the universe collapse to a single point, seeing it pop out of existence, and then explode brilliantly around me.

Sorry to hijack the thread here, but I have to know if anyone here has ever experienced this phenomenon.

If any of you find any of what I said about my weed trips to be intriguing, please consider trying to achieve such a state. I have never spoken to another person who has seen what weed can do.

If you have the time, money, resources and interest, please make a very strong glycerin tincture and chug as much of that shit as you can; or smoke as much weed as you can afford to smoke in one sitting; maybe even make a small batch of potent cookies and eat them all. To get there, you pretty much need to keep ingesting weed until you're so stoned that you can't understand how to ingest it anymore. Then kick back, get comfy, and let your mind explore the insanity of the weed universe.



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Re: DXM (Dextromorphan or Cough medicine)? [Re: TheCreampie]
    #14474131 - 05/18/11 04:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ok i didnt read any of the posts, but im just saying if your going to do it do an extraction. I enjoyed it a lot, but I always did a bottle or so of the 20 gel caps and its fucked with my body. I will never do it again, but it was fun. If i could go back in the past I woulda never done it though.


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Re: DXM (Dextromorphan or Cough medicine)? [Re: Distorted Vision]
    #14474170 - 05/18/11 04:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

yeah I never went above 300-400mg and while I seem to remember having some fun experiences and I don't regret doing it in the slightest, I think it's safe to say I won't be messing with DXM again anytime soon, I had some really uncomfortable experiences.


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Re: DXM (Dextromorphan or Cough medicine)? [Re: Pigasus]
    #14474694 - 05/18/11 06:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

me and a friend did a bottle of robo each, like 400 mg iirc.  i felt almost drunk, without so much of a mental effect.  but my friend was having full scene hallucinations, lol, he was trying to borrow money from me for a lollipop from the "candy store" we where in, when we were actually walking down the street. i wish i was in his mind there  :crazyeyes:


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Re: DXM (Dextromorphan or Cough medicine)? [Re: Flipppppyyy]
    #14475081 - 05/18/11 07:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

After 1 bottle? He/she's either a VERY light person, or they were fucking with you. Haha.
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Re: DXM (Dextromorphan or Cough medicine)? [Re: DeliriumTrigger]
    #14476437 - 05/19/11 12:48 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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After 1 bottle? He/she's either a VERY light person, or they were fucking with you. Haha.
When I'm high, I like to fuck with my friends. Especially if they're trying to mess with me, I'll mess with them back, worse. Haha




Or maybe they weren't. Check out the wikipedia entry on Dextromethorphan, particularly everything under Pharmacology and Contraindications. Your friend may be a poor DXM metaboliser/lack a particular enzyme such as CYP2D6. Drugs affect different people differently as evidenced in some of the posts above about the dose/response levels of weed. Don't assume what's true for you is true for everyone else.

I love strawberries, but some people are allergic to them. I once heard someone say that "the drug is experiencing you just as much as you are experiencing the drug" which has a wonderful poetic symmetry about it. Be nice to your drugs.

On a lighter note, this video is quite amusing:



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Re: DXM (Dextromorphan or Cough medicine)? [Re: huxmush]
    #14476826 - 05/19/11 03:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I've robo tripped 3 times in my life. I drank the Delsym extended relief, it was the big bottle which was about 800mg Dextromorphan HB. The come up was slow as hell but it was a fantastic experience all 3 times, music is a necessity (Fly like an eagle by Steve Miller Bad was amazing). I couldn't imagine doing it again without a good friend. Visually I watched my friends eyes move around his face, vision was quite distorted. Motor skills were quite diminished, no chance I coulda walked out in public (reminded me of the scene in fear and loathing in las vegas when they're on ether.)

  I made total peace with everything in the world and I felt as if I could have died, not in a negative way but if I was to die, I was ready to go on. However, DXM is not to be abused, it can have some nasty effects if it is abused so take everything in moderation and be safe :mushroom2:


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Re: DXM (Dextromorphan or Cough medicine)? [Re: huxmush]
    #14479741 - 05/19/11 05:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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After 1 bottle? He/she's either a VERY light person, or they were fucking with you. Haha.
When I'm high, I like to fuck with my friends. Especially if they're trying to mess with me, I'll mess with them back, worse. Haha




Or maybe they weren't. Check out the wikipedia entry on Dextromethorphan, particularly everything under Pharmacology and Contraindications. Your friend may be a poor DXM metaboliser/lack a particular enzyme such as CYP2D6. Drugs affect different people differently as evidenced in some of the posts above about the dose/response levels of weed. Don't assume what's true for you is true for everyone else.

I love strawberries, but some people are allergic to them. I once heard someone say that "the drug is experiencing you just as much as you are experiencing the drug" which has a wonderful poetic symmetry about it. Be nice to your drugs.

On a lighter note, this video is quite amusing:





Well, I said or they're a light weight. :shrug:  According to the DXM website I was on, weight was the only real factor in dosage, but I guess I was incorrect.


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Re: DXM (Dextromorphan or Cough medicine)? [Re: DeliriumTrigger]
    #14496104 - 05/22/11 08:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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