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mrdvant
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First time growing is trays, question about side/bottom pins
#14344695 - 04/24/11 06:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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So this is my first time growing in a tray, I've done cakes before. My tray is translucent plastic and I didn't line the sides and bottom with anything to keep out light like I've seen recommended. I looked today and have a pretty decent amount of pins on the top, but about twice as many on the sides and the bottom is just covered. I hate the thought of all those mushrooms growing all smooshed and then rotting and going to waste, so I was thinking and had an idea. What if I were to pull the cake out of the tray, which is about 12" x 9" and has a brick about 5 inches thick of substrate/casing in it, and cut it in half, through the middle,lengthwise. I could then flip over the bottom and put it into another tray, so that what is currently the bottom becomes the top in the new tray. So I would then have two tray, but they'd be half the thickness of the one I have now. In theory it seems like I would then increase the harvest, but I don't know if there would still be enough nutrients/water in the two separate trays.
Any thoughts?
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Re: First time growing is trays, question about side/bottom pins [Re: mrdvant]
#14344722 - 04/24/11 06:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's not a bad idea, but in the future, line the tray inside with a small trash bag or something similar. This way, it sticks to the cake as it shrinks and helps prevent sidepins.
Side and bottom pinning are often signs of less-than-adequate humidity in the tray's environment. The microclimate created between the cake and the walls of the tray encourages pinning.
If it were me, I'd put that sucker on a rack, flip it upside down and put it in a standard shotgun FC. Those bottom pins will then be the top pins and since the pinset is better, you can sleep well knowing if any of the previously top pins abort, you'll have a nice flush regardless.
Personally, since I don't have a martha, I don't do trays anymore. Too much hassle and problems like this are typical.
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Re: First time growing is trays, question about side/bottom pins [Re: afrosheen]
#14344766 - 04/24/11 06:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's in a SGFC right now, and yes I had some humidity issues for a couple weeks, finally decides maybe my perlite was too packed and went to fluff it and discovered it had somehow gone completely dry. All that is fixed now and my humidity is high enough.
I thought about flipping it over like you said, but the tray tapers. It's smaller at the bottom than at the top, so the brick o' substrate wouldn't fit back into the tray well and I don't know how strong it is, if it would break apart under it's own weight from having an inch or so gap underneath it. Or did you mean just take it out of the tray and put it in the FC? Would that work, or would it dry out too much?
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Re: First time growing is trays, question about side/bottom pins [Re: mrdvant]
#14344804 - 04/24/11 06:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have seen them grow on the sides and the bottom. After the first flush, it is easier to pull out the substrate (cause it tends to shrink a little) to get the bottom and side fruits. They may be oddly formed, but they are still good. and you are stressing the substrate less by not over-handling it.
Then, dunk it and place it on foil in the growing chamber.
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Re: First time growing is trays, question about side/bottom pins [Re: mrdvant]
#14351845 - 04/25/11 09:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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mrdvant said: It's in a SGFC right now, and yes I had some humidity issues for a couple weeks, finally decides maybe my perlite was too packed and went to fluff it and discovered it had somehow gone completely dry. All that is fixed now and my humidity is high enough.
I thought about flipping it over like you said, but the tray tapers. It's smaller at the bottom than at the top, so the brick o' substrate wouldn't fit back into the tray well and I don't know how strong it is, if it would break apart under it's own weight from having an inch or so gap underneath it. Or did you mean just take it out of the tray and put it in the FC? Would that work, or would it dry out too much?
If you solved your humidity problem in the FC, there's no reason to leave it in the tray at this point. Go ahead and pull it out, keep it up off the perlite somehow (cheap dishrack or whatever) and let it fruit on all 6 sides.
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Re: First time growing is trays, question about side/bottom pins [Re: afrosheen]
#14352378 - 04/25/11 10:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ive had it happen too I just flipped the cake and put it back in the SGFC and grew out the pins

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Re: First time growing is trays, question about side/bottom pins [Re: steelmonkey]
#14352450 - 04/25/11 10:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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what material is the tray made out of? if its aluminum you can just fold it under and make a stand for it and birth it like a cake. swims done that when he got hundreds of pins along the sides and though a lot aborted, i still got my largest flushes from the ones that were birthed like a cake. good luck.
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