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Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) (EDITED)
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FULL TEXT (house version): http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr1254ih/pdf/BILLS-112hr1254ih.pdf
BILL STATUS UPDATES (house version): http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-1254
(senate version): http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14358655
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[112th CONGRESS House Bills] [From the U.S. Government Printing Office via GPO Access] [DOCID: h1254ih.txt] [Introduced in House]
112th CONGRESS 1st Session H. R. 1254
To amend the Controlled Substances Act to place synthetic drugs in Schedule I.
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IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
March 30, 2011
Mr. Dent (for himself, Mr. Meehan, Mr. Marino, Mr. Platts, Mr. Barletta, Mr. Cuellar, Mrs. Emerson, Mrs. Biggert, Mr. LaTourette, Mr. Gibson, Mr. Stivers, and Mr. Reed) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Energy and Commerce, and in addition to the Committee on the Judiciary, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned
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A BILL
To amend the Controlled Substances Act to place synthetic drugs in Schedule I.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the ``Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011''.
SEC. 2. ADDITION OF SYNTHETIC DRUGS TO SCHEDULE I OF THE CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES ACT.
(a) Cannabimimetic Agents.--Schedule I, as set forth in section 202(c) of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 812(c)) is amended by adding at the end the following: ``(d)(1) Unless specifically exempted or unless listed in another schedule, any material, compound, mixture, or preparation which contains any quantity of cannabimimetic agents, or which contains their salts, isomers, and salts of isomers whenever the existence of such salts, isomers, and salts of isomers is possible within the specific chemical designation. ``(2) In paragraph (1), the term `cannabimimetic agents'-- ``(A) means any substance that is a cannabinoid receptor type 1 (CB1 receptor) agonist as demonstrated by binding studies and functional assays within the following structural classes: ``(i) 2-(3-hydroxycyclohexyl)phenol with substitution at the 5-position of the phenolic ring by alkyl or alkenyl, whether or not substituted on the cyclohexyl ring to any extent. ``(ii) 3-(1-naphthoyl)indole or 3-(1- naphthyl)indole by substitution at the nitrogen atom of the indole ring, whether or not further substituted on the indole ring to any extent, whether or not substituted on the naphthoyl or naphthyl ring to any extent. ``(iii) 3-(1-naphthoyl)pyrrole by substitution at the nitrogen atom of the pyrrole ring, whether or not further substituted in the indole ring to any extent, whether or not substituted on the naphthoyl ring to any extent. ``(iv) 1-(1-naphthylmethyl)indene by substitution of the 3-position of the indene ring, whether or not further substituted in the indene ring to any extent, whether or not substituted on the naphthyl ring to any extent. ``(v) 3-phenylacetylindole or 3-benzoylindole by substitution at the nitrogen atom of the indole ring, whether or not further substituted in the indole ring to any extent, whether or not substituted on the phenyl ring to any extent.; and ``(B) includes-- ``(i) 5-(1,1-dimethylheptyl)-2-[(1R,3S)-3- hydroxycyclohexyl]-phenol (CP-47,497); ``(ii) 5-(1,1-dimethyloctyl)-2-[(1R,3S)-3- hydroxycyclohexyl]-phenol (cannabicyclohexanol or CP- 47,497 C8-homolog); ``(iii) 1-pentyl-3-(1-naphthoyl)indole (JWH-018 and AM678); ``(iv) 1-butyl-3-(1-naphthoyl)indole (JWH-073); ``(v) 1-hexyl-3-(1-naphthoyl)indole (JWH-019); ``(vi) 1-[2-(4-morpholinyl)ethyl]-3-(1- naphthoyl)indole (JWH-200); ``(vii) 1-pentyl-3-(2-methoxyphenylacetyl)indole (JWH-250); ``(viii) 1-pentyl-3-[1-(4-methoxynaphthoyl)]indole (JWH-081); ``(ix) 1-pentyl-3-(4-methyl-1-naphthoyl)indole (JWH-122); ``(x) 1-pentyl-3-(4-chloro-1-naphthoyl)indole (JWH- 398); ``(xi) 1-(5-fluoropentyl)-3-(1-naphthoyl)indole (AM2201); ``(xii) 1-(5-fluoropentyl)-3-(2-iodobenzoyl)indole (AM694); ``(xiii) 1-pentyl-3-[(4-methoxy)-benzoyl]indole (SR-19 and RCS-4); ``(xiv) 1-cyclohexylethyl-3-(2- methoxyphenylacetyl)indole (SR-18 and RCS-8); and ``(xv) 1-pentyl-3-(2-chlorophenylacetyl)indole (JWH-203).''. (b) Other Drugs.--Schedule I of section 202(c) of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 812(c)) is amended in subsection (c) by adding at the end the following: ``(18) 4-methylmethcathinone (Mephedrone). ``(19) 3,4-methylenedioxypyrovalerone (MDPV). ``(20) 3,4-methylenedioxymethcathinone (methylone). ``(21) Naphthylpyrovalerone (naphyrone). ``(22) 4-fluoromethcathinone (flephedrone). ``(23) 4-methoxymethcathinone (methedrone; Bk-PMMA). ``(24) Ethcathinone. ``(25) 3,4-methylenedioxyethcathinone (ethylone). ``(26) Beta-keto-N-methyl-3,4-benzodioxyolybutanamine (butylone). ``(27) N,N-dimethylcathinone (metamfepramone). ``(28) Alpha-pyrrolidinopropiophenone (alpha-PPP). ``(29) 4-methoxy-alpha-pyrrolidinopropiophenone (MOPPP). ``(30) 3,4-methylenedioxy-alpha-pyrrolidinopropiophenone (MDPPP). ``(31) Alpha-pyrrolidinovalerophenone (alpha-PVP). ``(32) 6,7-dihydro-5H-indeno(5,6-d)-1,3-dioxal-6-amine) (MDAI).''.
SEC. 3. TEMPORARY SCHEDULING TO AVOID IMMINENT HAZARDS TO PUBLIC SAFETY EXPANSION.
Section 201(h)(2) of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 811(h)(2)) is amended-- (1) by striking ``one year'' and inserting ``2 years''; and (2) by striking ``six months'' and inserting ``1 year''. <all>
News article --- http://grassley.senate.gov/news/Article.cfm?customel_dataPageID_1502=33155
Grassley Introduces Bill to Ban the Chemicals Used in Synthetic Drugs
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WASHINGTON – Sen. Chuck Grassley of Iowa today introduced bipartisan legislation to ban the chemicals commonly used in synthetic drugs popularly known as “K2” or “Spice,” among other names.
“People are buying this drug so easily at the local mall or online that they think it’s safe,” Grassley said. “The marketing is deceptive and the product is readily available, which both make the drug seem harmless. It’s anything but harmless. People including a young Iowan have died or been seriously injured because of this product. Congress needs to permanently control the substances used in this drug so no more lives are lost.”
The legislation is called the Dangerous Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 and the David Mitchell Rozga Act, named for the 18-year-old from Indianola who took his own life soon after using K2 purchased from his local shopping mall. Poison control centers and emergency rooms around the country are reporting skyrocketing cases of calls and visits resulting from K2 use, with physical effects including increased agitation, elevated heart rate and blood pressure, hallucinations, and seizures. A number of people across the country have acted violently while under the influence of the drug, dying or injuring themselves and others.
Many states have acted to ban the sale and possession of the chemical compounds found in these products. Many more states, counties and communities throughout the country have proposed bans or are in the process of banning these products. The federal Drug Enforcement Administration has banned five chemicals found in K2. However, this ban will last only for one year with an option to extend the ban for an additional six months. There is no guarantee that the chemicals will be banned permanently in the timeframe allowed. The legislation introduced today would impose a permanent ban on the five chemicals initially banned by the Drug Enforcement Administration, plus additional chemicals, used to make the drug. The legislation treats K2 like other banned narcotics such as methamphetamine and cocaine.
Grassley is co-chairman of the Senate Caucus on International Narcotics Control and ranking member of the Judiciary Committee.
Floor Statement of Senator Chuck Grassley On The David Mitchell Rozga Act March 17, 2011
Mr. President, all too often we learn of new and emerging drug threats to our communities that often have a huge negative impact on our youth. When these drug threats emerge it is crucial that we unite to halt the spread of the problem before it consumes families and communities.
Today we are confronted with new and very dangerous substances packaged as innocent products. Specifically, more and more kids are able to go online or to the nearest novelty store at the local shopping mall and purchase incense laced with compounds that seriously alter the mind. These products are commonly referred to as “K2”or “Spice” among other names. Although these products contain a label that states that the product is not for human consumption, kids and drug users are smoking these products in order to obtain a “legal high.”
It is believed that these products emerged on the scene beginning about 4 or 5 years ago and their use spread quickly throughout Europe. According to a study conducted by the European Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction, most of the chemical compounds found in “K2” are not reported on the label. This study concluded that the compounds are not listed because there is a deliberate marketing strategy to represent this product as a natural substance.
However, these products are anything but natural. Most of the chemical compounds the Drug Enforcement Administration has identified within K2 products were invented by Dr. John W. Huffman of Clemson University in the 1990s for research purposes. These compounds were never intended to be used for any other purpose than research. Dr. Huffman developed these compounds to further understand endocannabinoid receptors in the body. They were only tested on mice and never tested on humans. No long term effects of their use are currently known.
As more and more people are experimenting with K2 it is becoming completely evident that their use is anything but safe. The American Association of Poison Control Centers reports significant increases in the amount of calls concerning these products. There were only 13 calls related to K2 use reported for 2009, but there were over 1,000 calls concerning K2 use in 2010. Common effects reported by emergency room doctors include: increased agitation, elevated heart rate and blood pressure, hallucinations, and seizures. Effects from the highs from these synthetic drugs are reported to last as few as several hours and as long as one week. Dr. Huffman stated that since so little research has been conducted on these compounds that using any one of them would be like, “playing Russian roulette.”
In fact, Dr. Anthony Scalzo, a professor of emergency medicine at St. Louis University, reports that the compounds are significantly more potent than the active ingredients of marijuana. Dr. Scalzo states that what is troubling is the fact that the amount of compounds varies from product to product so no one can be sure exactly the amount of the drug they are putting in their body. Dr. Scalzo states that this can lead to significant problems such as altering of mind, addiction, injury, and even death.
According to various news articles across the nation, K2 can cause serious erratic and criminal behavior. In Mooresville, Indiana police arrested a group of teens after they were connected to a string of burglaries while high on K2. Another case in Honolulu, Hawaii shows police arrested a 23-year-old man after he tried to throw his girlfriend off an 11th floor balcony after smoking K2. A 14 year-old boy in Missouri nearly threw himself out of a 5th story window after smoking K2. Once the teen got over his high he denied having any suicidal intentions. Doctors believe he was hallucinating at the time of this incident.
K2 use is also causing serious health problems and increased visits to the emergency room. A Louisiana teen said he became very ill after trying K2. The teen said he experienced numbness starting at his feet and traveling to his head. He was nauseous, light-headed and was having hallucinations. This teen stated that K2 is being passed around at school and that many people were trying it without fear, assuming it was safe because it was legal. A 21-year-old man, from Greenfield, Indiana repeatedly stabbed himself in the neck while hallucinating on K2.
Regrettably, K2 use also has deadly consequences. On June 6, 2010, David Rozga, a recent 18 year-old Indianola, Iowa, high school graduate smoked a package of K2 along with his friends before going to a concert thinking it was harmless fun. According to his parents, David and his friends purchased this product at a mall in Des Moines after hearing about it from some college students who were home for the summer. After smoking this product, David’s friends reported that David became highly agitated and terrified. When he got home, he found a family shotgun and committed suicide approximately 90 minutes after smoking K2. The Indianola police believe David was under the influence of K2 at the time of his death. David’s parents and many in the community who knew David were completely shocked and saddened by this event. David was looking forward to starting his college career at the University of Northern Iowa in the fall. As a result, the Iowa Pharmacy Board placed an emergency ban on K2 products in Iowa beginning on July 21, 2010. A permanent ban is currently being considered in the legislature.
David’s tragic death may have been the first case in the United States of synthetic drug use leading to someone’s death, but sadly it was only the beginning. A month after David’s tragic death, police report that a 28-year-old Middletown, Indiana mother of two passed away after smoking a lethal dose of K2. This woman’s godson reported that anyone could get K2 easily because it can be sold to anybody at any price at any time. This last August, a recent 19-year-old Lake Highlands High School graduate in Dallas, Texas passed away after smoking K2. The medical examiner confirmed that this boy had K2 in his system at the time of his death. Even more disturbing is the involvement of synthetic drugs in a recent school shooting that occurred in Omaha, Nebraska in January of 2011. Robert Butler Jr. shot and killed himself and Dr. Vicki Kaspar, the assistant principal at the school. Doctors have confirmed that Robert Butler had K2 in his system at the time of the shooting.
These incidents throughout the country give me great concern that synthetic drug use, especially K2 use, is a dangerous and growing problem. Many states, including Iowa, have acted to ban the sale and possession of the chemical compounds found in these products. Many more states, counties and communities throughout the country have proposed bans or are in the process of banning these products. The DEA has administratively scheduled five chemicals found in K2. However, this ban will only last for one year with an option to extend the ban for an additional six months. There is no guarantee that the chemicals will be permanently banned in the timeframe allowed.
It is time to stop the use and trafficking of these products before more tragedies occur. This is why I’m pleased that my colleague, Senator Feinstein, is joining me in introducing the David Mitchell Rozga Act. Although David Rozga is one victim of many from these terrible drugs, his tragic death highlights the damaging nature of these substances and the great loss that they incur to our society. This legislation will take the chemicals the DEA has identified within K2 products and places them as Schedule I narcotics with other deadly drugs like meth and cocaine. The legislation will also amend the Controlled Substances Act, doubling the timeframe the Drug Enforcement Administration and the Department of Health and Human Services have to emergency schedule substances from 18 months to 36 months. This will allow for dangerous substances to be quickly removed from the market while being studied for permanent scheduling. I am grateful that the Community Anti-Drug Coalitions of America, a group that represents more than 5,000 local community anti-drug coalitions throughout the nation, is endorsing this legislation to ban these dangerous synthetic drugs from our society.
Mr. President, it is clear that the sale and use of synthetic drugs is a growing problem. People believe, like David Rozga believed, these products are safe because they can buy them online or at the nearest shopping mall. We need to do a better job at educating the public and our communities about the dangers these products present and nip this problem in the bud before it grows and leads to more tragedy. I urge my colleagues to join us in supporting this important legislation.
Article: http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20110414/INDIANOLA01/110414020/-1/zagform/Indianola-dad-testifies-D-C-synthetic-drug-use
Indianola dad testifies in D.C. on synthetic drug use
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A late Indianola man became the face of a national fight to make K2 and similar synthetic drugs illegal. Mike Rozga testified April 6, during a hearing at the U.S. Senate in Washington, D.C., advocating a ban of the drugs. Rozga has become a national advocate for banning the sale of K2 and similar synthetic drugs following the death of his oldest son, David, 10 months ago. David, 18, smoked the then legal K2 in June and took his life after experiencing hallucinations and anxiety. “The message I want to leave you with is we are not doing enough, and we are not moving quickly enough,” Rozga told the Senate Caucus on International Narcotics Control last week. “The people knowingly and deceptively poisoning our youth will seemingly stop at nothing for their own financial gain. They are ahead of us and it is imperative we enact comprehensive legislation to ban not only K2, but also bath salts and salvia.” Rozga was one of three guests that spoke to members of the U.S. Senate Caucus on International Narcotics last week during a hearing on dangerous synthetic drugs, titled “The Dangers of Synthetic Cannabinoids and Stimulants.” Joe Rannazzisi, deputy assistant administrator with the Drug Enforcement Administration and Erica Leary, program manager with the North Coastal Prevention Coalition, also spoke during the hour-long hearing. Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley is a co-chairman of the U.S. Senate Caucus on International Narcotics Control. Grassley and co-chairwoman Sen. Dianne Feinstein opened the hearing with prepared remarks followed by the testimony of Rannazzisi, Leary and Rozga. “I hope our witnesses can provide us with guidance on how we can stay ahead of emerging, dangerous substances,” Feinstein said. “I have been in public office long enough to know that K2, spice and bath salts will not be the last substances that traffickers make available to our youth. We must do all we can to stay ahead of the producers of these dangerous drugs.” Grassley and Feinstein then asked questions about the K2 and its dangers, among other things. Rozga spoke for about 10 minutes, talking about how his late son came into contact with K2 and how it led him to take his life, as well as what he has learned about the dangers of K2 and similar drugs over the last 10 months. “Our message now as we speak to young people is simple,” Rozga said during the hearing. “Do not inhale, do not inject and do not ingest anything. I hope you will join us in getting this message out and that you will move quickly to get these poisons out of our communities.” A complete transcript of Rozga’s testimony, as well as Sen. Grassley’s remarks can be read online at: www.drugcaucus.senate.gov. A video to last week’s hearing also appears on the website. More information about K2 can be found on the Rozga family’s website: www.k2drugfacts.com.
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: 5-HT2A]
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Im still trying to figure out, why does the government care if someone wants to get high? How did this become a governmental issue?
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: wildernessjunkie]
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wildernessjunkie said: Im still trying to figure out, why does the government care if someone wants to get high? How did this become a governmental issue?
You know......the children.
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: dip]
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Youtube.
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: wildernessjunkie]
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wildernessjunkie said: Im still trying to figure out, why does the government care if someone wants to get high? How did this become a governmental issue?
because of the prison industry lobby...to wit..the synthetics are depleting their market on prosecutions of illegal drugs...
having answered that question..this bill is already a done deal...it will speed through congress and o'bumble is too cowardly to veto it...the target date is june 1st..and it will likely be sooner than that...
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: Annapurna1]
#14343242 - 04/24/11 12:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Implausible. No way enough kids smoke spice to make up for the shortfall in prisoners due to legalization.
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: Doc_T]
#14343283 - 04/24/11 12:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I knew it wouldn't be that hard to ban the synthetics. They're banning all cannabinoid receptor agonists. I guess they're only banning the structures that they named but it's pretty much all of them.
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: Doc_T]
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Doc_T said: Implausible. No way enough kids smoke spice to make up for the shortfall in prisoners due to legalization.
the prison companies arent looking for a new windfall on spice prosectutions...their concern is that a legal alternative to marijuana will reduce their revenues from marijuana prosecutions...
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: Annapurna1]
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I don't see that happening either. Once spice is illegal too, why not just smoke pot in the first place?
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: Doc_T]
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This is bad news... i smoke a lot of spice cause im on probation.
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: LSDylan]
#14343366 - 04/24/11 12:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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better stock up. damn. this sucks.
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: Doc_T]
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Doc_T said: I don't see that happening either. Once spice is illegal too, why not just smoke pot in the first place? 
thats exactly what the prison companies have in mind ..force the ppl that are smoking spice to go back to marijuana so they can keep making money throwing them in jail...
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: dip]
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wildernessjunkie said: Im still trying to figure out, why does the government care if someone wants to get high? How did this become a governmental issue?
You know......the children.
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Oh yeah....I almost forgot.....the children.
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: wildernessjunkie]
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Doc_T said: I don't see that happening either. Once spice is illegal too, why not just smoke pot in the first place? 
thats exactly what the prison companies have in mind ..force the ppl that are smoking spice to go back to marijuana so they can keep making money throwing them in jail...
You need to take off the tinfoil cap and put on your thinking cap. States are decriminalizing weed, penalties get lower all the time. Pot is not the growth segment of the prison industry.
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: LSDylan]
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djr2150 said: This is bad news... i smoke a lot of spice cause im on probation.
Lots of states test for JWH and other chems. New tests will be created as fast as new RCs are, maybe by the same labs.
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: wildernessjunkie]
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wildernessjunkie said: Im still trying to figure out, why does the government care if someone wants to get high? How did this become a governmental issue?
You know......the children.
dip
Oh yeah....I almost forgot.....the children.
Most indeededly...the children...
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: InvaderShroom]
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The children are gonna reach their teenage years and find a way to get high anyways. I guess we could let our kids deal with shady drug dealers who just want the money or we could have our government do its job and protect us. If the government sold marijuana or just taxed it so that they made profit off of it, but let people grow who knew what they were doing and were checked by health officials all the time, then we would see so much prosperity in this nation it wouldn't even be fathomable.
The kids would smoke something that won't OD them or cause any damage to their bodies at all, they'd get high and wouldn't be restless and bored, wouldn't do crazy shit like what happens on alcohol and other drugs, and I feel like we couldn't go wrong. Seriously, please, if I missed something and am overlooking it, tell me, otherwise just legalize pot. You can still teach kids to be good individuals who are just helpful and make good choices, but completely refusing them any sort of high or low is pretty ridiculous and stupid. That's just BEGGING somebody to come in and supply the kids with drugs and make money off of it.
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: Joolz]
#14343601 - 04/24/11 01:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Dude, this is old news.
Here you can track the house bill: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-1254
and the one in the senate: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s112-605
(copy and paste links in another window) as they go through the process of becoming legislation.
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Because the government's knee-jerk response to ANYTHING it doesn't understand is to rush in with no public or scientific discussion and BAN.
A shoot first ask questions later response. Fuck the USA federal government! Land of the "free". HA! What a joke THAT anthem has become. I'm SO tired of my government acting in a manner NOT in conformity with my wishes and beliefs. When is OUR revolution going to come?????
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: Nature Boy]
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If this bugs you you should make it a point to make the connection clear to your congresspeople between prohibition and people using garbage like spice. If you outlaw drugs, people either break the law, or find other ways to get high, not all of which are safe.
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: 2ndChancesRDivine]
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Doc_T said: I don't see that happening either. Once spice is illegal too, why not just smoke pot in the first place? 
thats exactly what the prison companies have in mind ..force the ppl that are smoking spice to go back to marijuana so they can keep making money throwing them in jail...
You need to take off the tinfoil cap and put on your thinking cap.
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States are decriminalizing weed, penalties get lower all the time.
irrelevant...federal penalties for the same offense are generally much steeper than at the state level.. so they rake in more $$$ for the prison companies...and to this end..the feds will act where state or local law enforcement wont...
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: Nature Boy]
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I feel obliged to point out that the fact that this bill has received virtually no media attention may indicate it is d.o.a.
Similarly, the Chuck Schumer bill which would ban some bath salts seems to be going nowhere. The public is relatively unconcerned about this stuff atm unless you are talking in the south/ sporadically on the state level.
I could be wrong, but w/o the ability to brag to the public about how they are protecting them, politicians will tend to choose a different bullshit issue to earn their brownie stripes.
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: Annapurna1]
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This doesn't include the 2cs and DPT and stuff does it?
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: 5-HT2A]
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5-HT2A said: I feel obliged to point out that the fact that this bill has received virtually no media attention may indicate it is d.o.a.
Similarly, the Chuck Schumer bill which would ban some bath salts seems to be going nowhere. The public is relatively unconcerned about this stuff atm unless you are talking in the south/ sporadically on the state level.
which makes it all the more certain that the bill will be rushed through on a unanimous consent vote without so much as a peep...
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: Ogla]
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I don't think so.
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: 5-HT2A]
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They dont make shit from weed prosecutions. If thats their reasoning, decriminalization would help them make more money. Decriminalized doesnt mean you wont get in trouble for it. Instead of states paying for your public defender, the judge, the jail, the security, maintenance of jails, and your food, they just charge you a couple hundred bucks and the only resource taken up is that one cop to write that ticket out. Money saved and money made.
I think the money has little to do with it though, seeing as how a DUI on average runs you 5gs out of your pocket and all the programs you go through are ran by the state. They will make more than enough money off of weed being legal when Sativex comes to the U.S.
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Because the people who get elected to congress are ignorant and closed minded. They come from the perspective that law and regulation is good and can solve all problems (yes even the "Tea Partyists" and libertarians). To further make this problem worse many of them are poor policymakers. "Ban it" is a knee jerk reaction to policy and takes as much intellectual work and creativity as taking a shit...
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: Ganjabonga]
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Ganjabonga said: They dont make shit from weed prosecutions. If thats their reasoning, decriminalization would help them make more money. Decriminalized doesnt mean you wont get in trouble for it. Instead of states paying for your public defender, the judge, the jail, the security, maintenance of jails, and your food, they just charge you a couple hundred bucks and the only resource taken up is that one cop to write that ticket out. Money saved and money made.
I think the money has little to do with it though, seeing as how a DUI on average runs you 5gs out of your pocket and all the programs you go through are ran by the state. They will make more than enough money off of weed being legal when Sativex comes to the U.S.
who doesnt make shit from weed prosecutions??...the prison companies are making out like fucken bandits from weed prosecutions.. and a good chunk of that goes back to the politicians as bribes too...
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: Ganjabonga]
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Ganjabonga said: They dont make shit from weed prosecutions. If thats their reasoning, decriminalization would help them make more money. Decriminalized doesnt mean you wont get in trouble for it. Instead of states paying for your public defender, the judge, the jail, the security, maintenance of jails, and your food, they just charge you a couple hundred bucks and the only resource taken up is that one cop to write that ticket out. Money saved and money made.
I think the money has little to do with it though, seeing as how a DUI on average runs you 5gs out of your pocket and all the programs you go through are ran by the state. They will make more than enough money off of weed being legal when Sativex comes to the U.S.
You didn't once reference the PRISON system. You were talking about the court and penal system which is government run. The prison system is privately run, and pay politicians shit tons of money.
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: pwnasaurus]
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judging by your tea party = nazi sig i'm guessing this isn't the only conspiracy theory you have...
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: PMATL]
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Costs almost 30,000 bucks a year to keep someone behind bars. When does the profit from these busted stoners come in? I got busted for pot when I was younger and it costs me a little under 500 bucks and a couple classes that were another 500. Now if I went to jail, for a year and they paid almost 30,000 to keep me there for a year, where does their incredible profit come from?
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: Ganjabonga]
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BUMP:
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I guess it's time to start writing Representatives and Senators. I don't really give a fuck if they ban all that shit though. In a few years, I will just synthesize anything I want. I plan to look into endocannabinoids for all my stoning needs though. Perfectly safe for your body, untraceable on any drug test out there, and they are probably very potent.
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) (EDITED) [Re: destructo_low]
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Good luck getting all the precursors you need to synthesize everything you want. Many of those are illegal too...
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destructo_low said: I guess it's time to start writing Representatives and Senators. I don't really give a fuck if they ban all that shit though. In a few years, I will just synthesize anything I want. I plan to look into endocannabinoids for all my stoning needs though. Perfectly safe for your body, untraceable on any drug test out there, and they are probably very potent.
Good luck getting all the precursors you need to synthesize everything you want. Many of those are illegal too...
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destructo_low said: I guess it's time to start writing Representatives and Senators. I don't really give a fuck if they ban all that shit though. In a few years, I will just synthesize anything I want. I plan to look into endocannabinoids for all my stoning needs though. Perfectly safe for your body, untraceable on any drug test out there, and they are probably very potent.
Good luck getting all the precursors you need to synthesize everything you want. Many of those are illegal too...
Look into materials science. A lot of the chemicals you need to synthesize polymers are used for other things. If you have an alibi using legitimate polymer research as a legal loophole, you should be safe; although, you may have your equipment seized for a while and will have to fight it out in court, but keep MSDS sheets, research logs and the like, and you should have your ass covered.
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: pwnasaurus]
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Ganjabonga said: They dont make shit from weed prosecutions. If thats their reasoning, decriminalization would help them make more money. Decriminalized doesnt mean you wont get in trouble for it. Instead of states paying for your public defender, the judge, the jail, the security, maintenance of jails, and your food, they just charge you a couple hundred bucks and the only resource taken up is that one cop to write that ticket out. Money saved and money made.
I think the money has little to do with it though, seeing as how a DUI on average runs you 5gs out of your pocket and all the programs you go through are ran by the state. They will make more than enough money off of weed being legal when Sativex comes to the U.S.
You didn't once reference the PRISON system. You were talking about the court and penal system which is government run. The prison system is privately run, and pay politicians shit tons of money.
Actually the public system is privately run too.
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: 5-HT2A]
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They should just make it illegal to fucking think.
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: Society]
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he's illegally smiling!
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: Rebirtha]
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) (EDITED) [Re: 5-HT2A]
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lol and some people think we've made "progress" in the last 40 years when it comes to drugs and government leniency. I can observe nothing but a bigger banned list year after year. Not to mention people like owsley getting 2 years for making LSD as opposed to pickard getting life in prison. One example.
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) (EDITED) [Re: 5-HT2A]
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: Rebirtha]
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The heat come round and busted me for smiling on a cloudy day
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You need a permit to do that, sir
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: mirage]
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They just want to ban the competition to the well known illegal street drugs because their pissed as fuck that it is hurting the illegal drug trade market and these rich government people are loosing their illegal profits to these legal alternatives. Everything their saying, is to try to manipulate you with propaganda in order to get you to agree with him so they can get back to profiting black market profits again. Look at Larry Silverstein making $7,000,000,000.00 profit on the 9/11 towers collapsing.
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They say some Emo fool cut himself and that he happened to ingest a substance, and they say that therefore, these drugs cause people to become emo and cut themselves. OK, if you apply this to alcohol or tobacco, people would laugh at you. "ok, alcohol makes you cut yourself" people would say "your fucking stupid, no it doesn't, i drink alcohol all the time and i've NEVER cut myself all emo and crap". Their praying on the ignorance of non-users. "well I don't know anything about these things their talking about, but 1 person harmed himself, so that means it MUST be bad!!! WE MUST PROTECT TEH CHILD-RENS!!!! TEH CHILDS!!! PARTEKT TEH CHILDS!!!" 
I've watched some more videos of this lady, and she is not intillegent, she is nothing more than a puppet. She says the american government is: 0:35 "were a little bit different than terrorists" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhIuCbsarjg A little bit? so essentially the same thing as terrorists? Maybe it was a slip up on repeating things she hears at private meetings or maybe she is just stupid.
I can see her on a commercial now: "Try our new candy bar! It's a little bit different than cat shit" 
People just want to be happy in life, not everyone gets lucky and finds a "significant other" but they can feel happy by doing other things, some use drugs, and as i noticed, every single person, 100% of them, that are against drugs, are married with kids, imagine that.
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: Joolz]
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Joolz said: or we could have our government do its job and protect us.
It is not our governments job to protect us. It is our job to protect ourselves.
I support your point, that government should not drive these things underground and create a black market, but that is not the government protecting us, it is them not actively bringing about our deaths... doesnt seem much to ask for from them.
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: PoisonCrazy]
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I just meant protect us as in pay someone who went to college for 8 years for chemistry to make and sell pure LSD-25. Then, government gets money for the drug, but we also get the pure form of an amazing drug. Both sides win. We should stop the war on drugs, and use the money on researching and spreading information for drugs instead.
Teach people what these things do. Tell them that drugs aren't for everyone. Put out books to help further our conscious minds and build a working society with drugs as an ally, not an enemy.
But then there's that saying. It goes something like "wish in one hand and shit in the other".
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: Joolz]
#14455580 - 05/15/11 10:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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So the bill was referred to a sub-committee.. where hopefully it will die.
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) (EDITED) [Re: 5-HT2A]
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K2 Suicide risk? Doesn't make sense to me....
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) (EDITED) [Re: Raw]
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I feel as this should be bumped, sorry if its too old .
I smoke spice so im wondering how this bill is doing?
It says something that when you ban one substance (POT) that others come out to take its place..
A simple fix is just to legalize pot
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Dextroman said: I feel as this should be bumped, sorry if its too old .
I smoke spice so im wondering how this bill is doing?
It says something that when you ban one substance (POT) that others come out to take its place..
A simple fix is just to legalize pot 
BE CAREFUL WITH THAT K2! According to these senators, k2 will cause you to commit suicide. Sounds like some bad stuff.
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) (EDITED) [Re: overstand]
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how about they criminalize all that synthetic shit and decriminalize or legalize everything else, so they can still get their prison population fix
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highwaychile992 said: how about they criminalize all that synthetic shit and decriminalize or legalize everything else, so they can still get their prison population fix 
Yeah, good call. People doing the other drugs are morally superior and better beings than people who use those evil synthetic drugs.
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