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Annapurna1
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: 2ndChancesRDivine]
#14343723 - 04/24/11 02:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: I don't see that happening either. Once spice is illegal too, why not just smoke pot in the first place? 
thats exactly what the prison companies have in mind ..force the ppl that are smoking spice to go back to marijuana so they can keep making money throwing them in jail...
You need to take off the tinfoil cap and put on your thinking cap.
you need to take off the dunce cap and fashion a thinking cap out of tin foil..below...
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States are decriminalizing weed, penalties get lower all the time.
irrelevant...federal penalties for the same offense are generally much steeper than at the state level.. so they rake in more $$$ for the prison companies...and to this end..the feds will act where state or local law enforcement wont...
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: Nature Boy]
#14343740 - 04/24/11 02:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I feel obliged to point out that the fact that this bill has received virtually no media attention may indicate it is d.o.a.
Similarly, the Chuck Schumer bill which would ban some bath salts seems to be going nowhere. The public is relatively unconcerned about this stuff atm unless you are talking in the south/ sporadically on the state level.
I could be wrong, but w/o the ability to brag to the public about how they are protecting them, politicians will tend to choose a different bullshit issue to earn their brownie stripes.
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: Annapurna1]
#14343852 - 04/24/11 02:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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This doesn't include the 2cs and DPT and stuff does it?
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Annapurna1
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: 5-HT2A]
#14343959 - 04/24/11 03:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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5-HT2A said: I feel obliged to point out that the fact that this bill has received virtually no media attention may indicate it is d.o.a.
Similarly, the Chuck Schumer bill which would ban some bath salts seems to be going nowhere. The public is relatively unconcerned about this stuff atm unless you are talking in the south/ sporadically on the state level.
which makes it all the more certain that the bill will be rushed through on a unanimous consent vote without so much as a peep...
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: Ogla]
#14343972 - 04/24/11 03:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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losfreddy said: This doesn't include the 2cs and DPT and stuff does it?
I don't think so.
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: 5-HT2A]
#14344087 - 04/24/11 03:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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They dont make shit from weed prosecutions. If thats their reasoning, decriminalization would help them make more money. Decriminalized doesnt mean you wont get in trouble for it. Instead of states paying for your public defender, the judge, the jail, the security, maintenance of jails, and your food, they just charge you a couple hundred bucks and the only resource taken up is that one cop to write that ticket out. Money saved and money made.
I think the money has little to do with it though, seeing as how a DUI on average runs you 5gs out of your pocket and all the programs you go through are ran by the state. They will make more than enough money off of weed being legal when Sativex comes to the U.S.
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: wildernessjunkie]
#14344110 - 04/24/11 04:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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wildernessjunkie said: Im still trying to figure out, why does the government care if someone wants to get high? How did this become a governmental issue?
Because the people who get elected to congress are ignorant and closed minded. They come from the perspective that law and regulation is good and can solve all problems (yes even the "Tea Partyists" and libertarians). To further make this problem worse many of them are poor policymakers. "Ban it" is a knee jerk reaction to policy and takes as much intellectual work and creativity as taking a shit...
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: Ganjabonga]
#14344216 - 04/24/11 04:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ganjabonga said: They dont make shit from weed prosecutions. If thats their reasoning, decriminalization would help them make more money. Decriminalized doesnt mean you wont get in trouble for it. Instead of states paying for your public defender, the judge, the jail, the security, maintenance of jails, and your food, they just charge you a couple hundred bucks and the only resource taken up is that one cop to write that ticket out. Money saved and money made.
I think the money has little to do with it though, seeing as how a DUI on average runs you 5gs out of your pocket and all the programs you go through are ran by the state. They will make more than enough money off of weed being legal when Sativex comes to the U.S.
who doesnt make shit from weed prosecutions??...the prison companies are making out like fucken bandits from weed prosecutions.. and a good chunk of that goes back to the politicians as bribes too...
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: Ganjabonga]
#14344273 - 04/24/11 04:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ganjabonga said: They dont make shit from weed prosecutions. If thats their reasoning, decriminalization would help them make more money. Decriminalized doesnt mean you wont get in trouble for it. Instead of states paying for your public defender, the judge, the jail, the security, maintenance of jails, and your food, they just charge you a couple hundred bucks and the only resource taken up is that one cop to write that ticket out. Money saved and money made.
I think the money has little to do with it though, seeing as how a DUI on average runs you 5gs out of your pocket and all the programs you go through are ran by the state. They will make more than enough money off of weed being legal when Sativex comes to the U.S.
You didn't once reference the PRISON system. You were talking about the court and penal system which is government run. The prison system is privately run, and pay politicians shit tons of money.
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: pwnasaurus]
#14344306 - 04/24/11 04:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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judging by your tea party = nazi sig i'm guessing this isn't the only conspiracy theory you have...
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: PMATL]
#14344515 - 04/24/11 05:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Costs almost 30,000 bucks a year to keep someone behind bars. When does the profit from these busted stoners come in? I got busted for pot when I was younger and it costs me a little under 500 bucks and a couple classes that were another 500. Now if I went to jail, for a year and they paid almost 30,000 to keep me there for a year, where does their incredible profit come from?
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: Ganjabonga]
#14344836 - 04/24/11 06:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) (EDITED) [Re: 5-HT2A]
#14344949 - 04/24/11 07:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I guess it's time to start writing Representatives and Senators. I don't really give a fuck if they ban all that shit though. In a few years, I will just synthesize anything I want. I plan to look into endocannabinoids for all my stoning needs though. Perfectly safe for your body, untraceable on any drug test out there, and they are probably very potent.
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) (EDITED) [Re: destructo_low]
#14345014 - 04/24/11 07:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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In a few years, I will just synthesize anything I want.
Nanotechnology. 
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) (EDITED) [Re: destructo_low]
#14345145 - 04/24/11 07:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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destructo_low said: I guess it's time to start writing Representatives and Senators. I don't really give a fuck if they ban all that shit though. In a few years, I will just synthesize anything I want. I plan to look into endocannabinoids for all my stoning needs though. Perfectly safe for your body, untraceable on any drug test out there, and they are probably very potent.
Good luck getting all the precursors you need to synthesize everything you want. Many of those are illegal too...
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) (EDITED) [Re: Plok]
#14345165 - 04/24/11 07:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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destructo_low said: I guess it's time to start writing Representatives and Senators. I don't really give a fuck if they ban all that shit though. In a few years, I will just synthesize anything I want. I plan to look into endocannabinoids for all my stoning needs though. Perfectly safe for your body, untraceable on any drug test out there, and they are probably very potent.
Good luck getting all the precursors you need to synthesize everything you want. Many of those are illegal too...
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destructo_low said: I guess it's time to start writing Representatives and Senators. I don't really give a fuck if they ban all that shit though. In a few years, I will just synthesize anything I want. I plan to look into endocannabinoids for all my stoning needs though. Perfectly safe for your body, untraceable on any drug test out there, and they are probably very potent.
Good luck getting all the precursors you need to synthesize everything you want. Many of those are illegal too...
Look into materials science. A lot of the chemicals you need to synthesize polymers are used for other things. If you have an alibi using legitimate polymer research as a legal loophole, you should be safe; although, you may have your equipment seized for a while and will have to fight it out in court, but keep MSDS sheets, research logs and the like, and you should have your ass covered.
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: pwnasaurus]
#14345217 - 04/24/11 08:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ganjabonga said: They dont make shit from weed prosecutions. If thats their reasoning, decriminalization would help them make more money. Decriminalized doesnt mean you wont get in trouble for it. Instead of states paying for your public defender, the judge, the jail, the security, maintenance of jails, and your food, they just charge you a couple hundred bucks and the only resource taken up is that one cop to write that ticket out. Money saved and money made.
I think the money has little to do with it though, seeing as how a DUI on average runs you 5gs out of your pocket and all the programs you go through are ran by the state. They will make more than enough money off of weed being legal when Sativex comes to the U.S.
You didn't once reference the PRISON system. You were talking about the court and penal system which is government run. The prison system is privately run, and pay politicians shit tons of money.
Actually the public system is privately run too.
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: 5-HT2A]
#14345489 - 04/24/11 08:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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They should just make it illegal to fucking think.
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: Society]
#14345569 - 04/24/11 08:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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he's illegally smiling!
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level) - HR 1254 [Re: Rebirtha]
#14357900 - 04/26/11 09:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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bump thread...
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