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The Thinker

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Re: Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia [Re: AIRDOG]
#14334458 - 04/22/11 05:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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they are Panaeolus cyanescens you are good to go
how much did the shop charge per bag?
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia [Re: AIRDOG]
#14334467 - 04/22/11 05:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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AIRDOG said: I have NEVER seen a copelandia with a reddish hue on the stem EVER
Agreed. According to Gerhardt's Panaeolus monograph, Panaeolus cyanescens stems should be colored like the cap.
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SomeGuy
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Re: Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#14334604 - 04/22/11 06:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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what about David Arora's suggestion, in Mush. demystified,stem;...pallid to yellowish, greyish or pinkish and that pan tropicalis has smaller spores and no pinkish tinge( than pan cyans) and most of these mushrooms have pink stalks maybe thats a poor indicator, I stand corrected, but some are definately pinkish
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Nunbuh_Chrubble
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Re: Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia [Re: Kaiser]
#14335586 - 04/22/11 09:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Kaiser said: Take them out of the bag, spread them out on a newspaper/paper towel in a cool dry area, if possible use a fan but if you don't have one thats fine.

I wouldn't put them in the fridge and expect them to be very good in four days. You might get food poisoning...
Try to dry them with a fan and they should be ok.
Kinda sketch though. Do you even know this person who is selling you these shrooms? How do you know it's not just some local scumbag who doesn't mind ripping off tourists by selling them random mushrooms? I'd be skeptical.
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davide
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Re: Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
#14335800 - 04/22/11 10:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nunbuh_Chrubble said:
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Kaiser said: Take them out of the bag, spread them out on a newspaper/paper towel in a cool dry area, if possible use a fan but if you don't have one thats fine.

I wouldn't put them in the fridge and expect them to be very good in four days. You might get food poisoning...
Try to dry them with a fan and they should be ok.
bullshit dude. Mushrooms last in the fridge for four days. Period.
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Re: Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
#14336610 - 04/23/11 01:08 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nunbuh_Chrubble said: Kinda sketch though. Do you even know this person who is selling you these shrooms? How do you know it's not just some local scumbag who doesn't mind ripping off tourists by selling them random mushrooms? I'd be skeptical.
They are Panaeolus cyanescens. He probably got them in a store or from a reputable vendor.
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Re: Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#14336775 - 04/23/11 01:51 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks a lot for identifying, sounds like they are really good. I got them from a well-known local store.
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The Thinker said: they are Panaeolus cyanescens you are good to go
how much did the shop charge per bag?
I paid Rp. 60.000 per bag which is about 7 US dollars. How much do they normally cost?
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Alan Rockefeller said:
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Nunbuh_Chrubble said: Kinda sketch though. Do you even know this person who is selling you these shrooms? How do you know it's not just some local scumbag who doesn't mind ripping off tourists by selling them random mushrooms? I'd be skeptical.
They are Panaeolus cyanescens. He probably got them in a store or from a reputable vendor.
Hello, you do sound like an experienced person. I'm a skinny raw-vegan girl, sensitive to psychodelics. I'm thinking of 1.5 packs for an ego-loss. Isn't it too much? Thank you in advance.
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Ieponumos
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Re: Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia [Re: M-Spiral]
#14337462 - 04/23/11 08:29 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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M-Spiral said: Thanks a lot for identifying, sounds like they are really good. I got them from a well-known local store.
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The Thinker said: they are Panaeolus cyanescens you are good to go
how much did the shop charge per bag?
I paid Rp. 60.000 per bag which is about 7 US dollars. How much do they normally cost?
Dude, that's a good deal no mater ....
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phishhead
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Re: Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia [Re: Ieponumos]
#14337521 - 04/23/11 09:04 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Mushrooms last just fine in the fridge, especially for just a few days. Its like buying mushrooms at the market and having them in your fridge, you just don't want to leave them in that plastic bag. Use a paper bag if your going to refridgerate them and they will be fine. I also highly doubt some local scum bag is going around selling random mushrooms to tourists. There are lots of places like Bali that sell psychadelic mushrooms to tourists to make money for their families, like Peru, Mexico, and a lot of others. I commend you for getting them identified before you eat them though. A lot of people aren't be so smart. I bet if you went back to the shop and asked what species they were someone would be able to atleast tell you what they are locally known as.
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Nunbuh_Chrubble
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Re: Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia [Re: phishhead]
#14340611 - 04/23/11 08:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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davide said: bullshit dude. Mushrooms last in the fridge for four days. Period.
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phishhead said: Mushrooms last just fine in the fridge, especially for just a few days. Its like buying mushrooms at the market and having them in your fridge
Yeah sure, except you know when you get mushrooms from the market or a store and they are already on the verge of being spoiled... so you want to eat them right away.
I dumpster-dive all my food, so most of the mushrooms I get are already on their way out. From the looks of OP's pics, those shrooms have already started to go bad. I'm sure they'll be fine for a day or so, but I wouldn't expect them to last for four days in a fridge. If they were really fresh then I'd say store them in the fridge in a paper bag, etc. But they are not really fresh, they're on their way out. So either dry them or make a tea and store it, or even put them in some vodka/grain-alcohol or something to preserve them.
My $0.02
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davide
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Re: Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
#14341738 - 04/24/11 01:17 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nunbuh_Chrubble said:
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davide said: bullshit dude. Mushrooms last in the fridge for four days. Period.
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phishhead said: Mushrooms last just fine in the fridge, especially for just a few days. Its like buying mushrooms at the market and having them in your fridge
Yeah sure, except you know when you get mushrooms from the market or a store and they are already on the verge of being spoiled... so you want to eat them right away.
I dumpster-dive all my food, so most of the mushrooms I get are already on their way out. From the looks of OP's pics, those shrooms have already started to go bad. I'm sure they'll be fine for a day or so, but I wouldn't expect them to last for four days in a fridge. If they were really fresh then I'd say store them in the fridge in a paper bag, etc. But they are not really fresh, they're on their way out. So either dry them or make a tea and store it, or even put them in some vodka/grain-alcohol or something to preserve them.
My $0.02
you're wrong dude. deal with it.
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Ieponumos
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Re: Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
#14342210 - 04/24/11 04:44 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nunbuh_Chrubble said:
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davide said: bullshit dude. Mushrooms last in the fridge for four days. Period.
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phishhead said: Mushrooms last just fine in the fridge, especially for just a few days. Its like buying mushrooms at the market and having them in your fridge
Yeah sure, except you know when you get mushrooms from the market or a store and they are already on the verge of being spoiled... so you want to eat them right away.
I dumpster-dive all my food, so most of the mushrooms I get are already on their way out. From the looks of OP's pics, those shrooms have already started to go bad. I'm sure they'll be fine for a day or so, but I wouldn't expect them to last for four days in a fridge. If they were really fresh then I'd say store them in the fridge in a paper bag, etc. But they are not really fresh, they're on their way out. So either dry them or make a tea and store it, or even put them in some vodka/grain-alcohol or something to preserve them.
My $0.02
The fridge does act as a dehydrator mind you. I've got dried Pleurotus specimens which I put in the fridge and for got about until they were dried, crispy remains became apparent to me. I can get pics in a bit of my herbarium samples.
Edited by Ieponumos (04/24/11 01:02 PM)
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phishhead
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Re: Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia [Re: Ieponumos]
#14343311 - 04/24/11 12:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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the fridge has a coolant system which keeps the air dry so that the fridge doesnt fill up with water from condensation so over time they will dry. but if your just gonna keep them in there for a few days its no big deal unless you leave them out in the open in there. Thats why I said use a paper bag.
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German Kahuna
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Re: Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia [Re: M-Spiral]
#14343341 - 04/24/11 12:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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M-Spiral said: Hello, you do sound like an experienced person. I'm a skinny raw-vegan girl, sensitive to psychodelics. I'm thinking of 1.5 packs for an ego-loss. Isn't it too much? Thank you in advance.
I'm not going to get started about vegans, but... weight or diet has not much to do with it. You have the same amount of synapses as a 300 lbs meat eater. That's all that counts.
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SomeGuy
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Re: Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia [Re: German Kahuna]
#14347939 - 04/25/11 08:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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German Kahuna said:
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M-Spiral said: Hello, you do sound like an experienced person. I'm a skinny raw-vegan girl, sensitive to psychodelics. I'm thinking of 1.5 packs for an ego-loss. Isn't it too much? Thank you in advance.
I'm not going to get started about vegans, but... weight or diet has not much to do with it. You have the same amount of synapses as a 300 lbs meat eater. That's all that counts.
G/K I always wondered this; a persons weight doesn't matter because they have the same no. of synapses, or it does matter because we measure the concentration in blood(where it goes, of course) and a 400lb man has more blood than 100lb man. You say it doesn't matter?
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