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Logic = Half brained
    #14341992 - 04/24/11 03:01 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yes it is true, if you consider all matter only logically, you are only using half of your brain.



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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: teknix]
    #14342108 - 04/24/11 03:42 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: teknix]
    #14342130 - 04/24/11 03:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Wow! I am going ot bookmark your post for future reference.

Did you have a point here? When I add 2 + 2 should I get all emotional about it? Or perhaps I should be creative...


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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14342914 - 04/24/11 10:34 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Wow! I am going ot bookmark your post for future reference.

Did you have a point here? When I add 2 + 2 should I get all emotional about it? Or perhaps I should be creative...




I believe he said "if you consider all matter only logically..", which would be to say that if you don't use the right hemisphere's functions at all then you would be only using half your brain. I don't think he said that you need to be using the left sphere's functions via the right sphere's, because that wouldn't make sense if he abides by the left/right hemisphere idea.


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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: yeah] * 1
    #14342926 - 04/24/11 10:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'm no neurologist, but that graph looks grossly over simplified.


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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: ShroomScape]
    #14342943 - 04/24/11 10:42 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Me neither.


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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: yeah]
    #14342963 - 04/24/11 10:48 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

well ive been using a mostly functional brain all my life and i can safely say theres not that much more to it :shrug:


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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: quinn]
    #14344182 - 04/24/11 04:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I like the gif.  Subconscious, intuition, etc., I think the OP has a point.


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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: timelapses]
    #14344194 - 04/24/11 04:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

and vice versa

use a mix of both.


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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14344412 - 04/24/11 05:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Wow! I am going ot bookmark your post for future reference.

Did you have a point here? When I add 2 + 2 should I get all emotional about it? Or perhaps I should be creative...




Did you use your left hand?


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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: Simulacra541]
    #14344608 - 04/24/11 05:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Feeling is a very viable tool for decision making and anybody who doesn't realize that and trust their intuition is probably afraid of taking risks or following their dreams.  You shouldn't be up in your head all the time...we all need a vacation.


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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: teknix]
    #14344850 - 04/24/11 06:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Did you know that neurological studies show that emotion is necessary for reason?  People who have brain damage in the emotional center of their brain behave highly irrationally, because they don't know how they're supposed to react to different situations.  I would go so far as to say that thinking is simply a more complex form of feeling.  Isn't there a "feeling" of an idea making sense?


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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: Silversoul] * 1
    #14345103 - 04/24/11 07:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Isn't there a "feeling" of an idea making sense?




Sure, but as is repeatedly pointed out, it has no bearing whatsoever on the validity of an idea.


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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: ShroomScape] * 1
    #14345157 - 04/24/11 07:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm no neurologist, but that graph looks grossly over simplified.




Yes :yesnod:

I would go as far as saying it came under the category of popular pseudoscience, like the infamous 10% theory. :facepalm3:

Hemispheric specialisation is very oversimplified in that picture.


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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: Blondell_Letrange]
    #14345173 - 04/24/11 07:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Hemispheric specialisation is very oversimplified in that picture.



It's oversimplified, but not entirely wrong.  There is in fact a general lateralization of different brain functions which falls more or less along the lines described in OP's picture.


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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14345193 - 04/24/11 07:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

How can you say that? Plenty of ideas are deductively valid but aren't true.  For scientific claims they have to be verified with material evidence.  For moral or spiritual claims they have to be verified intuitively and experientially. 

Furthermore, you are flat out lying if you tell me every decision you make in your life is based on logical deduction.  You make actions based on an assumption of truth all the time and it's intuition guiding you.  If a car is coming head on towards you, you're not gonna be proving in your head why you should swerve out of the way, but you'll do it all the same.  If you were stuck in your head at that moment it would be really bad.  But honestly that's a great example of why being in your head all the time isn't a great idea...something in you knows intuitively what to do.  You don't have to think about it to do the right thing.  And the more you know your self, the more you trust your self, the more apparent this becomes.


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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: g00ru]
    #14345229 - 04/24/11 08:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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How can you say that? Plenty of ideas are deductively valid but aren't true.  For scientific claims they have to be verified with material evidence.  For moral or spiritual claims they have to be verified intuitively and experientially. 

Furthermore, you are flat out lying if you tell me every decision you make in your life is based on logical deduction.  You make actions based on an assumption of truth all the time and it's intuition guiding you.  If a car is coming head on towards you, you're not gonna be proving in your head why you should swerve out of the way, but you'll do it all the same.  If you were stuck in your head at that moment it would be really bad.  But honestly that's a great example of why being in your head all the time isn't a great idea...something in you knows intuitively what to do.  You don't have to think about it to do the right thing.  And the more you know your self, the more you trust your self, the more apparent this becomes.




Another bad analogy, the difference here is that swerving to avoid the car is a rational reaction due to the urge of self-preservation. You know through logical deduction based on past experiences that this is a good idea. you have experienced physics in action and have a basic understanding of it, so there is no need to repress this almost subconscious evaluation of your surroundings.


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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: Silversoul]
    #14345286 - 04/24/11 08:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Hemispheric specialisation is very oversimplified in that picture.



It's oversimplified, but not entirely wrong.  There is in fact a general lateralization of different brain functions which falls more or less along the lines described in OP's picture.




I can only assume you are referring to the 10% analogy as the "entirely wrong" part, because I didn't claim that the graphic was entirely wrong, just oversimplified. So I guess we agree on this aspect.

Oversimplification often leads to misunderstanding, particular in popular media...

It is not a simple case of one hemisphere engaging in any particular task. There is much communication and collaboration between each of the hemispheres...


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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: 4896744]
    #14345331 - 04/24/11 08:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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How can you say that? Plenty of ideas are deductively valid but aren't true.  For scientific claims they have to be verified with material evidence.  For moral or spiritual claims they have to be verified intuitively and experientially. 

Furthermore, you are flat out lying if you tell me every decision you make in your life is based on logical deduction.  You make actions based on an assumption of truth all the time and it's intuition guiding you.  If a car is coming head on towards you, you're not gonna be proving in your head why you should swerve out of the way, but you'll do it all the same.  If you were stuck in your head at that moment it would be really bad.  But honestly that's a great example of why being in your head all the time isn't a great idea...something in you knows intuitively what to do.  You don't have to think about it to do the right thing.  And the more you know your self, the more you trust your self, the more apparent this becomes.




Another bad analogy, the difference here is that swerving to avoid the car is a rational reaction due to the urge of self-preservation. You know through logical deduction based on past experiences that this is a good idea. you have experienced physics in action and have a basic understanding of it, so there is no need to repress this almost subconscious evaluation of your surroundings.




it is a fallacy to assume that logic is guiding your actions in swerving to avoid the car.  See Hume's problem of induction.  Basically, we cannot logically prove that events will occur in the future as the have occurred in the past.  We just assume that they do. Your brain is not operating on logic when you swerve to avoid that car, I promise you, that is pure instinct. That was an example by the way, not an analogy.


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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: g00ru]
    #14345381 - 04/24/11 08:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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guruu said:
How can you say that? Plenty of ideas are deductively valid but aren't true.  For scientific claims they have to be verified with material evidence.  For moral or spiritual claims they have to be verified intuitively and experientially. 

Furthermore, you are flat out lying if you tell me every decision you make in your life is based on logical deduction.  You make actions based on an assumption of truth all the time and it's intuition guiding you.  If a car is coming head on towards you, you're not gonna be proving in your head why you should swerve out of the way, but you'll do it all the same.  If you were stuck in your head at that moment it would be really bad.  But honestly that's a great example of why being in your head all the time isn't a great idea...something in you knows intuitively what to do.  You don't have to think about it to do the right thing.  And the more you know your self, the more you trust your self, the more apparent this becomes.




Another bad analogy, the difference here is that swerving to avoid the car is a rational reaction due to the urge of self-preservation. You know through logical deduction based on past experiences that this is a good idea. you have experienced physics in action and have a basic understanding of it, so there is no need to repress this almost subconscious evaluation of your surroundings.




it is a fallacy to assume that logic is guiding your actions in swerving to avoid the car.  See Hume's problem of induction.  Basically, we cannot logically prove that events will occur in the future as the have occurred in the past.  We just assume that they do. Your brain is not operating on logic when you swerve to avoid that car, I promise you, that is pure instinct. That was an example by the way, not an analogy.




How groundbreaking. So your saying we can't truly know anything 100%? That is nothing new.

The thing is that based on all that we experience, all that we can do is make a logical evaluation of what we experience and discern.

Lastly, it is not pure instinct in the sense that past experiences don't create the instinct. A baby is not born with the instinct to swerve a car. It is only born with the basic instincts of things like eating, sleeping, etc. It needs to experience many things to understand physics at a basic level and what a car is along with things associated with cars.


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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: 4896744]
    #14345405 - 04/24/11 08:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

it's got an instinct for survival and as it grows older and more proficient with the body that instinct evolves into swerving to avoid the car.  In the moment, it's instinct. How ridiculous to say that you need to know physics to know what to do.  Your brain knows physics intuitively, whether or not you took the class.  The brain makes trigonometric calculations all the time, like when something is coming at you and you gotta know when to move.  Experientially, this is not rational activity, it is totally intuitive. The thoughts you have in your head at the moment of the car coming at you are not what cause you to swerve.  Surely you can see that this is true.


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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: g00ru]
    #14345447 - 04/24/11 08:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i think its true... all action is inherently irrational. but that doesnt mean all action cant be rationally explained thru science (u wouldnt say the universe is rational imo. it just works the way it does)


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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: quinn]
    #14345458 - 04/24/11 08:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

it can be explained after the fact, but our brain in the moment is not using its rational faculties.


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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: g00ru]
    #14345465 - 04/24/11 08:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

so when does it use its rational faculties :confused:


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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: quinn]
    #14345475 - 04/24/11 08:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

when you're thinking with your voice in your head.  Well, hopefully you're being logical, that's not necessarily the cause.  But that's "rational thought."


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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: quinn]
    #14345523 - 04/24/11 08:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i dont really agree... i mean regardless of whether there is a voice in your head, the world is always presented through a rational understanding.

even for the car you must recognize that it is an object coming towards you. there must be some level of understanding before your body responds otherwise you would not respond.


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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: quinn]
    #14345583 - 04/24/11 08:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

of course when you are calm your rationality can be pursued further into the world (as opposed to when you are about to be hit by a car or chased by a tiger)... but still i think both include some degree of rational thought

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...and notice how an emotional response to something can obscure the calm rationalization of the world. so if someone had massive death anxiety then when they looked at the fact that people die they may go into 'run from tiger mode' and decide that there is an afterlife or reincarnation or something.

and also this is why science is ideally emotionally detached in it's observation... to give the 'calmest' picture of the world.


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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: quinn]
    #14346353 - 04/24/11 10:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

That was nice of you guys to spoon feed orgone, although he probably wouldn't do the same.

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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: 4896744]
    #14346489 - 04/24/11 11:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Perhaps, but consider this .. i know this one lady who has been hit by train whilst in her car , they see the train coming they are sitting in there car but they over think and panic and basically freeze , make no attempt to get out of the car and actually get hit

So what was it that caused her to go into shock and not get out of her car before the train hit her?


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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: Withinity]
    #14346800 - 04/25/11 12:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Fear. :satansmoking:


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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: g00ru]
    #14346806 - 04/25/11 12:06 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Your brain knows physics intuitively, whether or not you took the class.


This may be the stupidest thing you've said. :wow:


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The brain makes trigonometric calculations all the time, like when something is coming at you and you gotta know when to move.


Yeah, that doesn't mean our brains know physics intuitively. :lol:


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Experientially, this is not rational activity, it is totally intuitive.


It's neither intuitive or rational, it's a reflex.


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The thoughts you have in your head at the moment of the car coming at you are not what cause you to swerve.


This is not necessarily true--reflexes can result from mere thoughts.


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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: Poid]
    #14346848 - 04/25/11 12:15 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I used intuition and logic to come up with a unifying theory of quantum mechanics and relativity, including sub-space. Although I can't put the math into it.

It goes hand in hand with yin and yang and neutrality. Explains quazars, blackholes and why we don't see anti-matter.


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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: teknix]
    #14346857 - 04/25/11 12:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Such things require both sides of your brain to even begin to ponder.


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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: teknix]
    #14346866 - 04/25/11 12:19 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I used intuition and logic to come up with a unifying theory of quantum mechanics and relativity, including sub-space. Although I can't put the math into it.


Sure, but that doesn't mean that every single person's brain knows physics intuitively, as guruu said.


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It goes hand in hand with yin and yang and neutrality. Explains quazars, blackholes and why we don't see anti-matter.


What do you mean by "it"? :undecided:


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Such things require both sides of your brain to even begin to ponder.


How do you figure?


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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: Poid]
    #14346951 - 04/25/11 12:42 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Poid that is why I ignored you, because you ask endless questions, and only questions as if that is an argument.


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    #14346961 - 04/25/11 12:45 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Sorry for not understanding you. :lol:


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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: Poid]
    #14346967 - 04/25/11 12:47 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah right :P

How about you give your own view on the matter. :smile: Or find the flaw in mine.


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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: teknix]
    #14346977 - 04/25/11 12:49 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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teknix said:
Yes it is true, if you consider all matter only logically, you are only using half of your brain.


Well you can use the other half for doing things other than considering matters, like playing music, or drawing a picture for example.




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It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.


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Re: Logic = Half brained [Re: quinn]
    #14349609 - 04/25/11 03:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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quinn said:
i dont really agree... i mean regardless of whether there is a voice in your head, the world is always presented through a rational understanding.

even for the car you must recognize that it is an object coming towards you. there must be some level of understanding before your body responds otherwise you would not respond.




when we talk about logic or rationality, that's a semantic construction.  Logical proofs, math, contemplation...that's rationality. None of that occurs when you swerve to avoid the car, whatsoever.  Now, it is true that after the fact we can analyze that moment and see that the action was totally rational and that obviously our brain was acting in a rational manner, but there's a distinction between that and the fact that in the moment, the brain was just operating on instinct.  See what I'm saying?

ur driving along, thinking rationally about what you're gonna get fucked up on tonight, then all of a sudden that car is coming at you.  there is no time to think and you swerve out of the way by instinct.  Then afterward you contemplate that and think "wow, how rational that my body instinctually knows to avoid the car."  But the decision to swerve wasn't being made by your brains logical faculties, it was the intuitive ones.  The logical faculties are, appropriately enough, the ones that can recognize the inherent logic of the intuitive ones.  Sort of a subtle concept.


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