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ViolentEvil
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Psylocybin alcohol extraction
#14340308 - 04/23/11 07:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I was very curious when I read a post about this. A friend of mine has a lot of dried shrooms just sitting around so I really wanted to experiment. What I did was bought a half gallon of everclear & some coffee filters. I then ground up about 8oz dried shrooms. I then put them into mason jars & set them into a hot water bath. I let them soak for 30-40 minutes with the water not at a boil but the alcohol at a slight boil. I then filtered the mash into another mason jar & set it under a proped hair drier. Then I added the mash again to another alcohol bath to further the extraction. So now I have 5 jars full of dark shroom fluid all under fans to evaporate. I have a desiccant chamber on stand by and a few 1/2 gallon mason jars 1/4 full of desiccant waiting for the alcohol & water to evaporate enough to them add the crystals to the chambers for storage.
My questions are how long can I store the crystals if they're stored in an air tight desiccant jar. Or should I leave them in a small amount of alcohol. Should I leave the mix to soak for longer for better results or is 30 mins boiling good enough?
Also does anyone know a better method for this? I don't want to spend a lot of money trying to do this either. I know a vacume filter would be best but I don't have the money to buy a set up for something I will only do a few times. Any info would be greatly appreciated!
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Edited by ViolentEvil (04/23/11 10:20 PM)
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InvaderShroom
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Re: Psylocybin alcohol extraction [Re: ViolentEvil]
#14340395 - 04/23/11 08:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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ViolentEvil said: I have a few pounds of dried shrooms just sitting around...
sorry i'm not sure how long the storing time is but can i PM u my address so i can get some of this "just sitting around" mushroom action? haha just kidding. but seriously, why do u have a few dry pounds just chillin in your possession?? just curious of course;)
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Holy hell!
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Re: Psylocybin alcohol extraction [Re: BargainBab]
#14340693 - 04/23/11 09:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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BargainBab said: Holy hell!
that statement is a little contradicting...but yes...holy hell indeed.
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ViolentEvil
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well my anonymous friend experimented with mono tubs for the first time & he ended up getting like 5 flushes out of like 8 tubs. So basically he wasnt intending on getting that much & since he's no dealer they just sit around. He wanted to get rid of most of them because having that much isn't a good idea. So I told him about the extraction tech & he loved the idea. We just want to know some details on this particular experiment since it's our first attempt at something like this.
please if youre going to post make it something useful to my experiment.
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Re: Psylocybin alcohol extraction [Re: ViolentEvil]
#14341011 - 04/23/11 10:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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ViolentEvil said: well my anonymous friend experimented with mono tubs for the first time & he ended up getting like 5 flushes out of like 8 tubs. So basically he wasnt intending on getting that much & since he's no dealer they just sit around. He wanted to get rid of most of them because having that much isn't a good idea. So I told him about the extraction tech & he loved the idea. We just want to know some details on this particular experiment since it's our first attempt at something like this.
please if youre going to post make it something useful to my experiment.
i did a search for "alcohol extraction" and came up with this http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5068121#5068121 it was first link. maybe you should learn to use the search function?
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Re: Psylocybin alcohol extraction [Re: ViolentEvil]
#14341038 - 04/23/11 10:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Is the idea with that to extract and then reduce it to crystals? Have you ever done that? I know that psylocybin is water soluable, but everclear does have water, so you would be extracting. The thing is, you will have polar soluables (psylocybin) mixed with you non-polar soluables, like oils and other crap from the shrooms. To make an extract of this type cleaner you would have to get a little further into acid base extractions.. I think the best you can get is a concentrated liquid using this tek, but keep in mind once liberated from the cells of the mushroom, it will degrade from oxygen and light easier. I would just make some strong mush tea, or better yet, find someone to get rid of those extra lbs for you.
The thing is crystals of this sort would be hard to dose unless you had a very accurate scale. They are already strong by themselves right. It would be a very tiny bit of powder. Imagine 100 grams of mushrooms extracted 100% giving a pile the size of a small grape if that (about .5-.8% psylocybin by weight') that would be over twenty doses, meaning each dose is a tiny pile, meaning you need miligram scale. Cool, doable, but a little high tech for a simple drug that you can trip on in its natural form.
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Edited by Jayslay (04/23/11 10:43 PM)
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Re: Psylocybin alcohol extraction [Re: Jayslay]
#14341525 - 04/24/11 12:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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best way I have seen was smashed up rough ground shrooms soaked and drained a few times in ethanol then vacuum dried to prevent lots of air flow around it. The filtering was more of a screening so that some would get through making it more of an extract concentrate then a true full extraction getting rid of all shroom material. A 10x extract works well and then can be hammered in to small capsules for awesome one little pill trips that are easy to measure. I have had a 3x and it worked well also and did not seem to lose as much magic as the 10x. The 10x felt more like 7-8x over the 3x felt right. From experiments witnessed a 10x can be done but to waste less a 5x might be the way to go.
hmmm still a few caps left in this drawer here.
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Re: Psylocybin alcohol extraction [Re: Jayslay]
#14342511 - 04/24/11 08:12 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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OMG, another extraction thread? No need to use the search engine, it's right there on the post list.
Everclear works great. Don't dry it down to crystals, leave it as a dense liquid.
This is not advanced, and it's not mycology.
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Re: Psylocybin alcohol extraction [Re: ViolentEvil]
#14342567 - 04/24/11 08:12 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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This thread has been closed.
Reason: This is off topic in advanced mycology, but the fact remains that if you 'extract' with everclear, those 'crystals' are nothing more than useless salts.
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