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Growing Poppies in 20qt Sterilite Container
    #14340283 - 04/23/11 07:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So last year when i tried to grow some outdoor poppies i sprinkled the seeds out in a bed of soil and ants ate a lot of the seeds before they could even germinate and the sprouts that did germinate were just eaten by slugs. And my yard is infested with slugs and snails.

So i was wondering if i sprouted poppies in a 20qt sterilite container if they would go rootbound during their lifecycle? I will be filling it up with a bunch of potting soil and a bunch of coir/verm which was pasteurized from a previous mushroom grow.



The reason im trying to grow them in the 20qt container is because of the ants and the slugs. I can just set this container elavated on something in another container filled with water so no slugs or ants can do anything because they'd have to get through the water.

And i can move the container around from spot to spot when i want. But my main concern is if they go rootbound during the later stages of their lifecycle.

And cats...i sprinkled some of the seeds in some coir/verm i layed out on the lawn. And within minutes i come back to find a cat digging it up trying to take a shit in it. So,...ants slugs and cats is what im trying to prevent from getting to my grow.

Its been really rainy and perfect spring weather for sprouting poppies so im doin it right now. I'll keep pics updated.


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Re: Growing Poppies in 20qt Sterilite Container [Re: OregonChronic]
    #14340402 - 04/23/11 08:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

might not be deep enough. Get two, cut the bottom out of one and use it to raise the sides of the other maybe.


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Re: Growing Poppies in 20qt Sterilite Container [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #14340582 - 04/23/11 08:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I think im just going to try to sprout some in this container. I mean...its 20gallons so it cant go rootbound too bad right? Its worth it in my opinion just to get rid of my worry of slugs and ants.


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Re: Growing Poppies in 20qt Sterilite Container [Re: OregonChronic]
    #14340620 - 04/23/11 08:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

they HATE to be transplanted, fyi


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Re: Growing Poppies in 20qt Sterilite Container [Re: OregonChronic]
    #14340662 - 04/23/11 09:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Looks like you could put 2 plants in there (maybe opposite corners) and raise them to be pretty big. Fertilize them often and have a very rich soil, filled with perlite as well as compost etc you know the deal.

They generally germinate very well, especially when they get to have chilly winter/fall mornings. So you'll probably only need a small pinch in two places.


And yes transplanting them stunts and beats the shit out out of them like no other... their roots are incredibly sensitive and thin, far more than any other plant I've cultivated... you won't even know that you ripped out any roots when 2/3 of them are gone.


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Re: Growing Poppies in 20qt Sterilite Container [Re: OregonChronic]
    #14340722 - 04/23/11 09:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

One or Two will do ok in that size container. I've grown poppies in 10litre buckets with a depth of 30cm and they do fine.

Sprinkle a pinch of seed and wait until they germinate. After they do this thin them out keeping the Three strongest looking seedlings. Get rid of one more as time goes by, again only keeping the Two healthiest.


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Re: Growing Poppies in 20qt Sterilite Container [Re: karode13]
    #14340748 - 04/23/11 09:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'm doing a similar grow. I germinated the seeds in grodan cubes then stuck them in the tub. I lost a few but that is normal. you should be fine, I mean you won't have a field or row of poppies but a few personal plants. And that's the point,right? I also sprinkled a few seeds on top of the soil and pressed down lightly as if it in the ground, just to be safe.


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Re: Growing Poppies in 20qt Sterilite Container [Re: EskimoRide]
    #14340903 - 04/23/11 10:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Can i fit like 4 in there? My goal was to get multiple flowers/pods.


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Re: Growing Poppies in 20qt Sterilite Container [Re: karode13]
    #14341372 - 04/23/11 11:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Growing Poppies in 20qt Sterilite Container [Re: BlindBat]
    #14342920 - 04/24/11 10:35 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Ima try to fit at least 4-5 of them in there. My goal is to have at least 5 pods in this container. Im just gonna sprinkle a pinch of seed around each corner and the center. And then thin them out to leave the most healthiest ones. I filled up the container with a bunch of coir/verm and potting soil and im going to sprinkle the seeds in it ASAP and set out in the rain to germinate.


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Re: Growing Poppies in 20qt Sterilite Container [Re: OregonChronic]
    #14346389 - 04/24/11 10:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

4-5 is an awful lot to cram in there. Try 3, as spaced out as possible, thinning them out as needed (you may end up only having room for 2) Have you ever grown P. Somn before? 5 pods in that is an awfully low goal too, because an average plant of mine has 25-30 pods and that's just one plant. You usually need at least 10 to get high off of.


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Re: Growing Poppies in 20qt Sterilite Container [Re: Mary Jayne]
    #14346537 - 04/24/11 11:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I thought one plant would only produce like 1-2 pods? :lol:. So if i grew 3 of them in this container each one would get big and produce how much pods per plant?


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Re: Growing Poppies in 20qt Sterilite Container [Re: OregonChronic]
    #14347053 - 04/25/11 01:08 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I am growing poppys out door in another plants pot.
They arnt evenly sprouted. There is just a group of little sprouts with two long leaves. Starting to grow there 4th leaves. There is about 40 growing millimeters away from each others, realy dense.
Ill move them once they get more solid roots.
Not trying to hyjack this thread or anything, just looking for advice ,
Will they die if they keep growing this close?

If this proves to be a problem, op will know too :shrug: if he hasn't already come across this problem....


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Re: Growing Poppies in 20qt Sterilite Container [Re: Locky]
    #14347180 - 04/25/11 01:39 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Ya i know what you're talking about. Thats why you're supposed to sow them spread out real well and then pull up the ones which are too close to each other leaving the healthiest ones with each their "area" to grow. If you're in the ground you can plant as much as you want just space them out real good. But me using this 20gal container i guess i can only fit three of them in there.

But when you do go to space your sprouts apart,...dont just rip them up...gently try to transplant each one into their own areas with a good dugout hole of good soils. If they survive then you get more poppy plants in the end.


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Re: Growing Poppies in 20qt Sterilite Container [Re: BlindBat]
    #14347658 - 04/25/11 06:29 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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karode13 said:
One or Two will do ok in that size container. I've grown poppies in 10litre buckets with a depth of 30cm and they do fine.





20 gallons = ~76 litres

10 litres = ~2.6 gallons






Good call.:blush:

Must of typed the wrong digits in when doing the conversion. Maths was never my thing.


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Re: Growing Poppies in 20qt Sterilite Container [Re: OregonChronic]
    #14350196 - 04/25/11 05:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

excuse my ignorance but are the "good" poppy seeds able to be acquired ? or are these like non active poppies ... never really sought out the information on their cultivation in the US ...


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Re: Growing Poppies in 20qt Sterilite Container [Re: cyantific]
    #14350366 - 04/25/11 05:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Well,..what happened was there was a "domesticated" strain of Papaver Somniferum which was bred to have an incredibly low % of alkaloids so stores could sell this knock off "domesticated" strain and people grow them for ornamental purposes. Making it hard for the people who wanted to grow them for the opiates to get quality seeds. Thats why most grocery store poppies you see have incredibly low alkaloids when grown.

I ordered mine from BBB so :shrug: im guessing these are the "good" kind. :wink:


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Re: Growing Poppies in 20qt Sterilite Container [Re: OregonChronic]
    #14350473 - 04/25/11 05:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Mine are the brand "hoyts"
Made good poppy seed tea with 500g of them.


My seeds are doings VERY well, they only have 12pm+ light.


So I should thin them out? I can carefully remove them and plant elsewhere.


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Re: Growing Poppies in 20qt Sterilite Container [Re: Locky]
    #14357816 - 04/26/11 09:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Get some Tasmanian or good old Persian Whites if you ask me.


I didn't care for mine to well, and they got way to hot at times (it's 100 degrees outside quite often, and they prefer weather in the 50s or 60s). Each plant has around 20 pods though. A good size area for two plants would be that container. You can pamper them and take care of them and they'll get giant... I'm talking 3+ feet from the soil is somewhat of a small plant.

And I wouldn't be trasnplanting seedlings if I were you, you could start them in a jiffy or etc then plant that but, they hate being moved especially early on. Avoiding a transplant will save like 2-3 weeks of growth from being lost :/


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Re: Growing Poppies in 20qt Sterilite Container [Re: Mary Jayne]
    #14358972 - 04/27/11 12:14 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

IV had huge problems growing poppy's outside :frown:


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