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Taking Ayahuasca while sick (common cold)
    #14338957 - 04/23/11 03:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

so this guy i follow on twitter has this problem...

his girlfriend is in the kitchen brewing ayahuasca as I type this, but the dude is kind of ill.  he's had a cold for a couple days...sniffling, a bit of sneezing, and the glands in his throat are a bit swollen. 

Should he avoid drinking the brew, or does it not matter since this stuff is considered medicine anyway.

thanks for any advice you may have to give!!

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Re: Taking Ayahuasca while sick (common cold) [Re: Vector]
    #14339005 - 04/23/11 03:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Should he avoid drinking the brew, or does it not matter since this stuff is considered medicine anyway.





Ayahuasca is getting quite a reputation, now it cures the common cold too!  Rids you of demons, pesky viruses, and the contents of your stomach.  Side effects may include wearing tie-dye shirts and the belief in 2012 prophesies.

You ever skip smoking weed or drinking alcohol because you had a cold?  Neither have I.


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Re: Taking Ayahuasca while sick (common cold) [Re: Vector]
    #14339030 - 04/23/11 03:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

usually when i have a cold, i do indeed try to minimize my weed/alcohol intake....but i don't think you can accurately compare those two to ayahuasca, eh?

I think that I would avoid LSD or Mushrooms while sick....wouldn't you?

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Re: Taking Ayahuasca while sick (common cold) [Re: Vector]
    #14339046 - 04/23/11 03:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Sorry, sometimes I think my thoughts on drug taking are universal.  Yeah, I'd trip with a cold but maybe you shouldn't.  Hell they give it dying cancer patients and they seem to enjoy it.  Apples to apples?


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Re: Taking Ayahuasca while sick (common cold) [Re: Vector]
    #14339100 - 04/23/11 03:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

yeah, thats actually a really good point

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Re: Taking Ayahuasca while sick (common cold) [Re: Vector]
    #14339157 - 04/23/11 03:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I would avoid mushrooms while sick, just because I don't enjoy the taste and smell and it may cause nausea and puking. I would take acid though. Couple pieces of paper to feel fucking amazing and have a show to go with it? Fuck yeah I would.


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Re: Taking Ayahuasca while sick (common cold) [Re: Vector] * 1
    #14339677 - 04/23/11 05:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

well, there's no guarantee that by taking acid you'll feel amazing.  in my experience you just feel a bigger version of whatever you're already feeling

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Re: Taking Ayahuasca while sick (common cold) [Re: Vector]
    #14339684 - 04/23/11 05:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Not in my experience. I've taken psychs with all sorts of different emotions, and I always had a happy experience. I'm a happy tripper though. Its what I want to do and when I get to do it again I always have so much fun its better than the last time.


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Re: Taking Ayahuasca while sick (common cold) [Re: Vector]
    #14339687 - 04/23/11 05:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Back when the Swine flu was prominent, My fiancee and I ate an eighth of P. Cubensis. Best trip I have ever had on mushrooms.


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Re: Taking Ayahuasca while sick (common cold) [Re: Joolz]
    #14339735 - 04/23/11 05:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Joolz said:
Not in my experience. I've taken psychs with all sorts of different emotions, and I always had a happy experience. I'm a happy tripper though. Its what I want to do and when I get to do it again I always have so much fun its better than the last time.





thats awesome man.  you're the kind of dude i'd like to trip with.

i guess my friend decided he's gonna stop being a pussy and just do it.  I'll let you guys know how it goes.

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Re: Taking Ayahuasca while sick (common cold) [Re: Vector]
    #14339766 - 04/23/11 05:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:rofldrunk:


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Re: Taking Ayahuasca while sick (common cold) [Re: Joolz]
    #14359919 - 04/27/11 07:59 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

everything went fine.  it was a mild brew anyway....aside from evacuating all fluids out of his body through his asshole it was a lovely experience; he forgot all about the swelling in his throat.  he's excited to double the dose next time

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Re: Taking Ayahuasca while sick (common cold) [Re: Joolz]
    #14359943 - 04/27/11 08:07 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Joolz said:
I would avoid mushrooms while sick, just because I don't enjoy the taste and smell and it may cause nausea and puking. I would take acid though. Couple pieces of paper to feel fucking amazing and have a show to go with it? Fuck yeah I would.





Actually, b/c I am kinda sick, I can hardly taste anything; therefore, shroomies are an easy eat!

WOOOOT LETS GET CONTAGIOUS!!!

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Re: Taking Ayahuasca while sick (common cold) [Re: fatppl12]
    #14361309 - 04/27/11 02:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

aya definitely helps with my colds. I have no doubt..seen and experienced it many times

if your feeling really sick, i'd do it with more vine and less of the light(dmt admixture)


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Re: Taking Ayahuasca while sick (common cold) [Re: Vector]
    #14361364 - 04/27/11 02:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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everything went fine.  it was a mild brew anyway....aside from evacuating all fluids out of his body through his asshole it was a lovely experience; he forgot all about the swelling in his throat.  he's excited to double the dose next time




He wants to double the dose? What materials is he using?

Some brews of aya(included in the term are analogues) are pretty sensitive to dose. I once doubled my dose thinking it wouldn't be too extreme, and I was very wrong. It was the most intense trip of my life.

Be careful, ayahuasca is a drug not to be taken lightly!


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Re: Taking Ayahuasca while sick (common cold) [Re: bholzer]
    #14361430 - 04/27/11 02:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ayahuasca potency and the dosages are probabilistic at best.  Doses that just gave you pretty colors and interesting thoughts one day can thrust you into hyperspace for hours at a time the next time.  There are so many variables such as the quality of your harmala, the contents of your stomach, the daily chemistry of your body, your mood and surroundings, and then finally the fundamental indeterminate characteristic of a trip.

Always be careful with this stuff, when shit gets weird, there is no weirdness that can compare.


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Re: Taking Ayahuasca while sick (common cold) [Re: joemolloy]
    #14364134 - 04/27/11 10:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

the brew was as follows:

300g of vine split up into 6 100ml doses....so it should be approx 50g vine.
for the light, it was 100g P.Viridis split into 6 50 ml doses....so approx 17g chacruna

with the vine, the dude and his girlfriend were thinking of combining the remaining 4 doses, reducing further (100 ml was too much liquid), and splitting into 2 50ml doses of approx 100g each.  and also they are going to do the same with the remaining 4 doses of chacruna.

Sound good? 

thanks bholzer and joemolloy for the cautionary words, I know you're all just lookin out.  the dude has experience with acid, shrooms, salvia, RCs, san pedro, ketamine, candy flippin, hippy flippin, and smoked DMT; so if all that hasn't prepared him for a heavy ayahuasca trip then he was probably never going to be ready.  though he's new to ayahuasca and doesn't want to seem too cocky, he thinks it will be an experience that agrees with him.

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Re: Taking Ayahuasca while sick (common cold) [Re: Vector]
    #14364181 - 04/27/11 10:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Sounds pretty good to me! Just let him to know to be prepared to be bedridden for the trip. At least in my experience.


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