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OfflineDyslexicate
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If I quit masturbating...
    #14338900 - 04/23/11 03:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Would that increase my testosterone and therefore make it easier to build muscles when I am working out?


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Dyslexicate]
    #14338904 - 04/23/11 03:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I dunno but I hear that masturbating reduces your chances of getting prostate cancer by something like 50%.

Just sayin'


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Dyslexicate]
    #14338909 - 04/23/11 03:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Dyslexicate said:
Would that increase my testosterone and therefore make it easier to build muscles when I am working out?




Dont bother. Youre not gonna quit either way.


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
    #14338918 - 04/23/11 03:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Its pretty much impossible to not masturbate...


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #14338921 - 04/23/11 03:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I dunno but I hear that masturbating reduces your chances of getting prostate cancer by something like 50%.

Just sayin'




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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
    #14338926 - 04/23/11 03:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I_was_the_walrus said:
Quote:

Dyslexicate said:
Would that increase my testosterone and therefore make it easier to build muscles when I am working out?




Dont bother. Youre not gonna quit either way.



I'm planning on quitting drugs and masturbation tonight actually.


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Belac]
    #14338930 - 04/23/11 03:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Belac said:
Its pretty much impossible to not masturbate...




i mean...yeah. I only whack it like twice a week, but stopping all together...?? Never


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Anthony917]
    #14338939 - 04/23/11 03:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Anthony917 said:
Quote:

Belac said:
Its pretty much impossible to not masturbate...




i mean...yeah. I only whack it like twice a week, but stopping all together...?? Never



Well I wank few times daily, so I definitely need to stop.


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Dyslexicate] * 1
    #14338943 - 04/23/11 03:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Dyslexicate said:
Quote:

I_was_the_walrus said:
Quote:

Dyslexicate said:
Would that increase my testosterone and therefore make it easier to build muscles when I am working out?




Dont bother. Youre not gonna quit either way.



I'm planning on quitting drugs and masturbation tonight actually.


Your life is about to officially suck ass. Even more.


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Poid] * 1
    #14338946 - 04/23/11 03:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Can't be worse than my addiction life which I am leaving behind.


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Poid]
    #14338949 - 04/23/11 03:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, you may as well end it all.  :suicide:


Edited by Mad_Larkin (04/23/11 03:10 PM)


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Anthony917]
    #14338952 - 04/23/11 03:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

If you feel like masturbating is having negative effects on you...

A:  you're probably doing it too much.

or

B: you only do it to porn.


masturbating strictly to porn has been found to reduce your libido and increase erectile dysfunction.



I'm sure there are more factors, but jerkin' once or twice a week is fine IMO.




edit:  I didn't even realize that I went way off topic lol.  OP just wanted to see if it will help build muscle, not claiming he is having negative effects.   


my bad.


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Dyslexicate]
    #14338956 - 04/23/11 03:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

idk, but if and when you do get laid, you're not gonna last very long.


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Dyslexicate]
    #14338959 - 04/23/11 03:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

jesus that's a lot of jizz.

you will find that if you masturbate less you will have more energy throughout the day. it is a draining task for the body to perform.

Why not just spank it once a day? Sounds like you're a pretty addicted masturbater.

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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Dyslexicate]
    #14338960 - 04/23/11 03:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Dyslexicate said:
Can't be worse than my addiction life which I am leaving behind.


Moderation, dude.


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #14338962 - 04/23/11 03:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You can quit drugs, but you won't quit masturbating. You could reduce the frequency of fapping but you will NOT stop.


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14338966 - 04/23/11 03:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm planning on quitting drugs and masturbation tonight actually.





so you signed up for this board strictly to quit droogs.. damn man you havent even seen the fun side of the shroomery..


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Big Worm]
    #14338967 - 04/23/11 03:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Imo some of the best faps I've had were to my own self-generated fantasies and not porn. :feelsgoodman:

:snoop:


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Anthony917]
    #14338978 - 04/23/11 03:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Anthony917 said:
jesus that's a lot of jizz.

you will find that if you masturbate less you will have more energy throughout the day. it is a draining task for the body to perform.

Why not just spank it once a day? Sounds like you're a pretty addicted masturbater.

:whacker: :firecum: :stonedjerk:  :spankthemonkey:



I'm a a Nympho with ADHD so no problem with energy.


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #14338982 - 04/23/11 03:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Same here. Also, acid-faps are the shit. :thumbup:


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Anthony917]
    #14339014 - 04/23/11 03:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

No

Why would ejaculating lead to a decrease in testosterone?  Hormone regulation/secretion does not intersect the path from balls to urethra, so its not like your releasing testosterone.
There was a study that observed the testosterone levels of men pre and post masturbation.  It showed a relative increase in testosterone immediately after orgasm, but the increase was neither dramatic nor sustainable (I think it lasted for something like 10 minutes... but don't quote me on that).  So if anything, you'd want to jack off more right before a workout routine, but I doubt it'd have any substantial affect.

There was a fair amount of body builder interest in consuming your own ejaculate to promote muscle growth.  But there were two flaws:
1) Seminal fluid is not filled with testosterone (even if it was your dijestive system would destroy it before the hormone interacted with your musculature).
2) Seminal fluid is not a magic protein mix.  Yes, it does contain protein/amino acids, but why would you eat your own man mayonnaise when a turkey sandwich or refried beans would provide the same result?

Recap: Maintain regular masturbation routine, and don't eat ya jizz.

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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Treefeeler]
    #14339043 - 04/23/11 03:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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There was a fair amount of body builder interest in consuming your own ejaculate to promote muscle growth





Sounds like an excuse to me brah.

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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #14339150 - 04/23/11 03:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

to OP:

simply increase your masturbation rate to 10 times daily, and you won't even need to work out






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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Salomon]
    #14339171 - 04/23/11 03:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quagmire is left handed? :strokebeard:


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Poid]
    #14339204 - 04/23/11 03:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

.


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: waves]
    #14339221 - 04/23/11 04:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

acid faps :foreveralone: :stonedjerk:


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: waves]
    #14339630 - 04/23/11 05:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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TheDukeofLizards said:
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Poid said:
Same here. Also, acid-faps are the shit. :thumbup:




That sounds like possibly one of the most depressing ways to spend time on an acid trip that I have ever heard.


:wtf:


How is that in any way, shape, or form depressing? :tard::wow::kingtard:


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #14339770 - 04/23/11 05:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Quagmire is left handed? :strokebeard:





its hard to use a mouse with your left hand

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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Dyslexicate]
    #14339819 - 04/23/11 05:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

If you quit masturbating you are a god among men. Or you're dead.


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14339865 - 04/23/11 06:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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ifoundwaldo said:
acid faps :foreveralone: :stonedjerk:



:ilold:

I have a question for the acid fappers. Do you see patterns in your jizz like fractals etc? If yes I gotta check this shit out sometime :quagmire:


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: mellowparty]
    #14339877 - 04/23/11 06:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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mellowparty said:
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ifoundwaldo said:
acid faps :foreveralone: :stonedjerk:



:ilold:

I have a question for the acid fappers. Do you see patterns in your jizz like fractals etc? If yes I gotta check this shit out sometime :quagmire:





yeah and it tastes like starbursts or rainbow skittles


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Cherk]
    #14339909 - 04/23/11 06:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i jack w/ my left hand even though i'm right handed. i think i was born a lefty but catholic school forced me to use my right hand. now i write w/ my right hand but it only feels right jacking with the left :shrug:


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Envix]
    #14339937 - 04/23/11 06:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Very interesting...:strokebeard:


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Poid]
    #14340057 - 04/23/11 06:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

too poor to just buy some protein powder?


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Dyslexicate]
    #14340104 - 04/23/11 07:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I think masturbation and testosterone levels are mutually related.

If you have high testosterone, you tend to wank more, especially impromptu masturbation (like having a wank at the loo at te office) points to elevated testosterone.

But the inverse is true also: Masturbating up to a point increases testosterone.

Know what also increases natural testosterone?

--eating protein rich healthy food regularly
--sleeping regularly
--working out
--10+mg organic zinc added to your diet. (such as zinc gluconate or citrate)

Know what decreases testosterone?

--stress
--cannabis
--alcohol


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Asante]
    #14340154 - 04/23/11 07:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Wiccan_Seeker said:
Know what decreases testosterone?

--stress
--cannabis
--alcohol



I think cannabis lowering testosterone was just a scare tactic early on, like LSD-induced chromosome damage. I remember researching it and finding out that the recent research has refuted that.


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Poid] * 1
    #14340223 - 04/23/11 07:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

.


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: waves]
    #14340231 - 04/23/11 07:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Personally, I have found masturbation to be a particularly depressing activity. I don't enjoy it because it makes me feel pathetic. I also feel that it is an ultimate waste of time. I don't like indulging myself in sexual fantasies because I feel like they pollute my mind. Same with porn.






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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: waves]
    #14340253 - 04/23/11 07:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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TheDukeofLizards said:
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Poid said:
Quote:

TheDukeofLizards said:
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Poid said:
Same here. Also, acid-faps are the shit. :thumbup:




That sounds like possibly one of the most depressing ways to spend time on an acid trip that I have ever heard.


:wtf:


How is that in any way, shape, or form depressing? :tard::wow::kingtard:




If that is how you enjoy spending you acid trips than by all means, beat it until it is raw.

Personally, I have found masturbation to be a particularly depressing activity. I don't enjoy it because it makes me feel pathetic. I also feel that it is an ultimate waste of time. I don't like indulging myself in sexual fantasies because I feel like they pollute my mind. Same with porn.

When I am on acid, I enjoy doing creative, productive, positive things. For me, masturbation does not fall into that category. I guess that makes me a :kingtard:

I'm glad you enjoy it though! Didn't mean to offend you.





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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Anthony917]
    #14340256 - 04/23/11 07:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: waves]
    #14340473 - 04/23/11 08:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Sounds like you have some self esteem issues...


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: waves]
    #14340512 - 04/23/11 08:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Did the shrooms give you gay thoughts which you are subconsciously avoiding by not touching your penis?


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Asante]
    #14340683 - 04/23/11 09:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Belac]
    #14340711 - 04/23/11 09:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: waves]
    #14340718 - 04/23/11 09:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

dude I don't think that many people masturbate that often.

I suggest you read this atricle http://www.menshealth.com/health/health-and-sexual-benefits-masturbation


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: waves]
    #14340719 - 04/23/11 09:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Belac said:
Sounds like you have some self esteem issues...




I could say the same about all the people in this thread who masturbate everytime they see a picture of a naked chick on the internet though:shrug:




I don't do it because I saw the picture of the naked chick.
I do it because the naked chick picture reminded me that I hadn't fapped it in a while. :shrug:

I have a schedule to keep.


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: lil_demented]
    #14340767 - 04/23/11 09:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: waves]
    #14340804 - 04/23/11 09:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Poid said:
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Poid said:
Same here. Also, acid-faps are the shit. :thumbup:




That sounds like possibly one of the most depressing ways to spend time on an acid trip that I have ever heard.


:wtf:


How is that in any way, shape, or form depressing? :tard::wow::kingtard:




If that is how you enjoy spending you acid trips than by all means, beat it until it is raw.


It's not like I wanked it for 12 hours straight throughout my entire trip, I did other stuff, too. :imslow:


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Personally, I have found masturbation to be a particularly depressing activity. I don't enjoy it because it makes me feel pathetic. I also feel that it is an ultimate waste of time. I don't like indulging myself in sexual fantasies because I feel like they pollute my mind. Same with porn.


I think this is somewhat hilarious. :strokebeard:


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When I am on acid, I enjoy doing creative, productive, positive things. For me, masturbation does not fall into that category. I guess that makes me a :kingtard:


I played music and shit, too. :shrug:

When I'm on acid, I just like to indulge in anything that is pleasurable; as a matter of fact, I like doing that even while sober.


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I'm glad you enjoy it though! Didn't mean to offend you.


I didn't get offended, I just thought that what you said was really stupid, because it was.


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Poid]
    #14340833 - 04/23/11 09:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: waves]
    #14340850 - 04/23/11 09:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:highfive:


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: waves] * 1
    #14340855 - 04/23/11 09:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, fuck you for differing with the consensus opinion.


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #14340917 - 04/23/11 10:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yeah, we don't take kindly to free speech round here. :bubbles:


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: Dyslexicate]
    #14340932 - 04/23/11 10:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

There's only one way to quit touching your pen0r OP. You need an intermediary.



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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: doses]
    #14342174 - 04/24/11 04:21 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Wiccan_Seeker said:
Know what decreases testosterone?

--stress
--cannabis
--alcohol



I think cannabis lowering testosterone was just a scare tactic early on, like LSD-induced chromosome damage. I remember researching it and finding out that the recent research has refuted that.



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Various water-insoluble cannabinoids as well as SP-111A, the water-soluble derivative of delta 9-tetrahydrocannabinol (delta 9-THC), reduced hCG and dibutyryl-cAMP stimulated testosterone production by rat testicular Leydig cell preparations. With 0.15 microM (0.05 micrograms/ml) 8-beta-OH-delta 9-THC the inhibition was about 50% of stimulated testosterone synthesis. Dose-related inhibitions were apparent with other cannabinoids and their order of potency in inhibiting stimulated steroidogenesis by the interstitial cells in vitro was found to be: 8-beta-OH-delta 9-THC greater than or equal to 11-OH-delta 9-THC greater than CBN = CBD = CBG greater than or equal delta 9-THC = delta 8-THC. The non-stimulated, basal, steroidogenesis was not affected even with 15 microM cannabinoids. The incorporation of L-[U-14C]leucine into the protein of Leydig cells was markedly reduced by 15 microM cannabinoids under both basal and stimulated conditions. The inhibition of steroidogenesis as well as protein synthesis in rat testicular Leydig cell preparations by various cannabinoids cannot be correlated with their psychoactivity. The present data suggest that cannabinoids at very low concentrations may interfere directly in Leydig cells with both protein and testosterone synthesis, and thus with their function.



source Cannabinoids would interfere with steroidogenesis stimulated via the protein kinase A pathway (dibutyryl-cAMP related pathway) and signalling from human chorionic gonadotropin. However, basal steroidogenesis was not affected.

On the other hand this study:
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The object of this study was to establish possible influences of long-term cannabis usage on plasma testosterone levels. The plasma testosterone levels of 66 male Pakistani who for years had smoked cannabis daily or drank cannabis regularly where measured after chronic and acute intake of the drug and compared with a material of 41 normal controls, i.e. persons who did not use cannabis. An evaluation of the results showed that there were no significant differences between the two groups. No influence of long-term cannabis usage on plasma testosterone levels was found. Furthermore we wished to find out wether long-term heroin abuse showed an effect on plasma testosterone levels. The concentrations of testosterone in the plasma of 102 heroin addicts assigned to a Methadone Program were measured and compared with the values of 29 male healthy students as controls. Plasma testosterone levels were found to be significantly decreased in heroin addicts as compared to controls.



source Well this study suggests that THC wont cause significant changes in testosterone plasma levels but heroin would :awesomenod:


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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: blewmeanie]
    #14342182 - 04/24/11 04:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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There's only one way to quit touching your pen0r OP. You need an intermediary.






I watched it with no sound and I was like WTF is going on.
Ten I turned the sound up and the first thing I heard was "From Rape"
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Re: If I quit masturbating... [Re: lil_demented]
    #14342192 - 04/24/11 04:33 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

quit masterbating up your shroom intake and leave the rest to the shroomery.. if you have any questions they will be answered fcor yo


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