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Psilocybe caerulipes.. sclerotia or bacterial infection? HELP
    #14337567 - 04/23/11 09:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So ive been playin around with Psilocybe caerulipes. I inoc'd a few grain jars at the end of last month. 3-27 to be exact. and a couple days ago i noticed what seemed to be a sclerotia. I didnt think caerulipes was capable of producing them. however im also thinking it could be bacteria. Just dont know. :confused:

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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes.. sclerotia or bacterial infection? HELP [Re: paradise]
    #14337810 - 04/23/11 10:56 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Odd little thing isn't it.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes.. sclerotia or bacterial infection? HELP [Re: Doc_T]
    #14337833 - 04/23/11 11:02 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yes, a bit. However a sclerotia forming woodlover would be freakin awesome!


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes.. sclerotia or bacterial infection? HELP [Re: paradise]
    #14337866 - 04/23/11 11:12 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I don't remember ever having bacteria show up in a fully grown, very
healthy jar like that appears to be...and looks more like
sclerotia to me. Perhaps a sniff test would help?... or just wait.

Great to see some cultivation work being done with caerulipes,
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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes.. sclerotia or bacterial infection? HELP [Re: paradise]
    #14337874 - 04/23/11 11:15 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Probably just some weird sort of mutant fruiting. Doesn't look like contam infestation.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes.. sclerotia or bacterial infection? HELP [Re: German Kahuna]
    #14360307 - 04/27/11 09:53 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5207687/fpart/all/vc/1

Its kind of off topic for this post. I was just looking around for Ps caerulipes growlogs and found Mushpuppets. I know that growing indoors under a controlled environment will cause fruits to look different macroscopically. BUT! does anyone think that those mushrooms look like Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata???? I was just looking through my wild pics and they dont seem nearly as big as his were and that annulus cant be seen on even the youngest of specimens that i've found... and in the recent pics of this seasons ovoids you most definitely can make it out...

I dont know if this was ever proposed but there you all go.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5804383/fpart/all/vc/1

upon further investigation I found my answer. but atleast I noticed, right?


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes.. sclerotia or bacterial infection? HELP [Re: rolly]
    #14360339 - 04/27/11 09:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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rolly said:
I don't remember ever having bacteria show up in a fully grown, very
healthy jar like that appears to be...




I have.  If the gas exchange becomes restricted after the jar is fully colonized, the jar can succumb to anaerobic bacteria fairly quickly.  This usually starts at the bottom of the jar, where there is the least oxygen.

In this case though, in the top two pictures - that does look like fruit tissue.  Almost as if a pin is growing from the glass into the mycelium.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes.. sclerotia or bacterial infection? HELP [Re: Sillicybin]
    #14360422 - 04/27/11 10:23 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Also heres an update for the ..uhh well whatever it is... theres 3 more spots like the first only not as round/uniform...its really starting to look like sclerotium



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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes.. sclerotia or bacterial infection? HELP [Re: paradise]
    #14360631 - 04/27/11 11:22 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I agree, they do.  That's a melon-scratcher. :awenuhuh:


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes.. sclerotia or bacterial infection? HELP [Re: Sillicybin]
    #14360713 - 04/27/11 11:42 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i dont think they are sclerotia at all.

i just think they are invitro fruitbodies.

is there anything to lead you to believe that are sclerotia and not fruitbodies, OP?


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes.. sclerotia or bacterial infection? HELP [Re: k00laid]
    #14360748 - 04/27/11 11:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I didnt think Ps caerulipes was capable of fruiting on grain since the other woodlovers cant....maybe i should try to fruit it in a tray?


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes.. sclerotia or bacterial infection? HELP [Re: paradise]
    #14405631 - 05/05/11 02:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Interesting stuff indeed, time will tell I'm sure...


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes.. sclerotia or bacterial infection? HELP [Re: UK Explorer]
    #14405824 - 05/05/11 03:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I think it is bacteria. I think those pustules will eventually crack open and start to seep pus. I predict the whole jar starts to fill up with yellow metabs soon.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes.. sclerotia or bacterial infection? HELP [Re: anonjon]
    #14405841 - 05/05/11 03:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Your hypothesis is most probable anonjon. There are little amber droplets in some spots.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes.. sclerotia or bacterial infection? HELP [Re: paradise]
    #14421045 - 05/08/11 06:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)




theres still more forming...I circled them 1 month after I inoc'd it on the 27th of april.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes.. sclerotia or bacterial infection? HELP [Re: paradise]
    #14464480 - 05/16/11 08:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

DONT KNOW. But I transferred it all to a batch of sawdust/cactus soil. When I broke it apart it was just like any other woodloving species. Strong and thick, no sclerotia. Those spots were merely impressions from the "yellow metabs" anonjon was speaking of...No funky smell or anything.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes.. sclerotia or bacterial infection? HELP [Re: paradise]
    #14464532 - 05/16/11 08:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

nice to hear that

cant wait for more pics :smile:


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