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rocketop420
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Which fluorescent light best for dunk and roll
#14337442 - 04/23/11 08:21 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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i have three different types of fluorescent lights to choose for my shotgun terrarium. the first (1) is a 6700k 15 watt bulb with 95 LUX and 960 lumens, The (2) is a 2800k 15 watt bulb with 65 LUX and 420 lumens, and the (3) is the bulb that came with my fish aquarium when i bought it. Dont know exactly what type of bulb the (3) is but it must be a standard stock bulb.Any help out there?
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Re: Which fluorescent light best for dunk and roll [Re: rocketop420]
#14337459 - 04/23/11 08:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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daylight fluorescent. you want 6500K
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rocketop420
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Re: Which fluorescent light best for dunk and roll [Re: Ajaxx]
#14337469 - 04/23/11 08:35 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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would the standard bulb that came with the new aquarium be a 6500k. How can you tell by just looking at a bulb what it is?
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Re: Which fluorescent light best for dunk and roll [Re: rocketop420]
#14337471 - 04/23/11 08:36 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Looking at the bulb all it says is natural daylight... is this what i need?
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Re: Which fluorescent light best for dunk and roll [Re: rocketop420]
#14337508 - 04/23/11 08:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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usually most bulbs will have some type of model number and or brand number. and type that info into google.. You might get lucky with someone selling that exact bulb model and have the color temp on the specs.
Pretty much any light will do. Its just 6500k is the Optimum color temp.
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Re: Which fluorescent light best for dunk and roll [Re: m_jacobs]
#14337520 - 04/23/11 09:04 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I used to use a aquarium light laid straight on top of my tubs and it worked fine.
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Re: Which fluorescent light best for dunk and roll [Re: shroomybgood]
#14337756 - 04/23/11 10:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Use that 6700k. No need to buy anything more if you've got that already. Color temp. and even distribution is what mushrooms are looking for. Light helps their metabolism and is a pinning trigger, but mushrooms do not photosynthesize at all. Hence one or two well placed lights can cover several FCs. Six if you're stacking monotubs.
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Re: Which fluorescent light best for dunk and roll [Re: mathias] 1
#14337764 - 04/23/11 10:46 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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GET THE FOIL OFF OF THOSE JARS! Haha I just noticed your avatar.... If you have not done so already, take that foil off. You need GE during colonization, Daddy....
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Re: Which fluorescent light best for dunk and roll [Re: mathias]
#14337968 - 04/23/11 11:36 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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mathias said: Use that 6700k. No need to buy anything more if you've got that already. Color temp. and even distribution is what mushrooms are looking for. Light helps their metabolism and is a pinning trigger, but mushrooms do not photosynthesize at all. Hence one or two well placed lights can cover several FCs. Six if you're stacking monotubs.

These days, thanks to CFLs becoming more common as well as the phasing-out of incandescents, one's choices in fluorescent bulbs is increasing all the time.
6500K is a common color temp. I've come across, though in my daylight-imitating desk lamps. When it comes to tubs/casings/whatever, if you're getting a CFL (13 watt, usually), look for the ones that have the "daylight" label. Those tend to have just the spectrum you are looking for, and also do not throw off nearly as much waste heat (and, depending on light position, possibly harmful heat) and save a lot of electricity while still providing a more than adequate spectrum of wavelengths/frequencies to stimulate lots of pinning.
Good luck!
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Re: Which fluorescent light best for dunk and roll [Re: the spiral]
#14338342 - 04/23/11 12:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks for the gas exchange information... that makes sense...
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Re: Which fluorescent light best for dunk and roll [Re: rocketop420]
#14338577 - 04/23/11 01:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Aye, verm barriers and/or tyvek lids keep contaminates at bay but GE is essential in growth. I am surprised those jars look as good as they do. It bodes well for your sterility tek though; sealed-up jars are heaven for molds and cobweb. Yours look fine.
What are your lids like? 2 hole, 4 hole? Verm layer? Daddy really likes tyvek lids; it does away with worry about contams and moisture loss. Get some tyvek and rtv, very easy to make.
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Re: Which fluorescent light best for dunk and roll [Re: mathias]
#14338760 - 04/23/11 02:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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and if you have (or once you get) a pressure cooker, get some filter patched-spawn bags. You'll soon find yourself wondering at all the extra effort jars require, in comparison.
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Re: Which fluorescent light best for dunk and roll [Re: the spiral]
#14339676 - 04/23/11 05:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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4 hole verm layer. How do you use the tyvek lid system your explaining? The tyvek seals in moisture and allows ge without contam getting in?.. My wife did all the inoculation, so give her the props for sterility.
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Re: Which fluorescent light best for dunk and roll [Re: rocketop420]
#14340400 - 04/23/11 08:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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99% of the time a good verm barrier and good lids will hold moisture just fine, but every now and then they get a bit dry on me.
APE being slower needs about 6 weeks invitro, so tyvek is a big help to both longer contaminate resistance and moisture retention. I'm sure some moisture is lost, but not much. I started doing these on APE and now they are everywhere.
My tyvek lids are like so:
4 holes for inoculation, but a little bigger than usual. 1/8 inch.
Then two (separate) 1/2 inch holes in the center. These get covered by a 2 inch tyvek square or disc that is sealed to the lid with RTV. I put a ring of RTV around the edge of the tyvek and press it in place. The inoculation holes get a blob of RTV on them. This seals up after the needle goes in. After a few uses I redo the RTV on inoculation holes or use micropore tape. Some folks use just micropore tape on inoculation and breathing holes and do fine. Or you could rtv the micropore in place I suppose.
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Re: Which fluorescent light best for dunk and roll [Re: mathias]
#14342535 - 04/24/11 08:20 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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mathias said: Use that 6700k. No need to buy anything more if you've got that already. Color temp. and even distribution is what mushrooms are looking for. Light helps their metabolism and is a pinning trigger, but mushrooms do not photosynthesize at all. Hence one or two well placed lights can cover several FCs. Six if you're stacking monotubs.
I put one sentence in bold because it's not exactly right. Mushrooms are not plants and may not produce chlorophyll, but they do actually derive energy from light, and will grow double or more in weight as a result of proper lighting over non-proper lighting. RR
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Re: Which fluorescent light best for dunk and roll [Re: RogerRabbit]
#14342646 - 04/24/11 08:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks for the correction RR.
I DO like to be "exactly right" if I can help it, after all. I thought I covered my ass enough with the "helps metabolism" bit.
I guess not.

I was under the impression that light provided vitamin metabolism and seasonal/diurnal timing. Non-chlorophyll calorie-gain? Wow.
Daddy needs to reed moar.
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Re: Which fluorescent light best for dunk and roll [Re: RogerRabbit]
#14342694 - 04/24/11 09:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said:
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mathias said: Use that 6700k. No need to buy anything more if you've got that already. Color temp. and even distribution is what mushrooms are looking for. Light helps their metabolism and is a pinning trigger, but mushrooms do not photosynthesize at all. Hence one or two well placed lights can cover several FCs. Six if you're stacking monotubs.
I put one sentence in bold because it's not exactly right. Mushrooms are not plants and may not produce chlorophyll, but they do actually derive energy from light, and will grow double or more in weight as a result of proper lighting over non-proper lighting. RR
Do you mean in the essence of solar energy converted to warmth in the tissues? i.e. like a reptile sunbathing? I could buy that, however there are no active compounds in mushrooms that do anything with the electron of energy absorbed from the sun like chlorophyll does. It's merely converted to thermal energy. Depending on how quickly mycelium can transfer water with higher calorie ratios to different parts of the organism though, one could say it uses the light.
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