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OfflineDiarYofaMadmaN
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fully automatic terrarium?
    #1433727 - 04/06/03 03:52 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

I want to make a fully automatic terrarium. I'm sure it's possible. Between school and work it's a pain in the butt to watch the humidity and Co2 build up. Is there any equipment that I can get to control the humidty and Co2? What equipment do I need and where can I get it? If anyone has built a fully automatic terrarium and posted it in the forum can you paste the link? Even pictures would be cool. Thx -MadmaN

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Re: fully automatic terrarium? [Re: DiarYofaMadmaN]
    #1433738 - 04/06/03 03:59 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

yes, i also would be intrested


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Re: fully automatic terrarium? [Re: AKcultivator]
    #1433751 - 04/06/03 04:05 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Search the forum for "poor man's pod"....a thread by Magash. My friend uses this tek and it seems like it's going to be good.


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Re: fully automatic terrarium? [Re: robinhood2]
    #1433764 - 04/06/03 04:12 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

The hippie uses this set up!! He never opens his fruiting chamber to fan!! The hummidity stays at 95-99% and the temp. stays about 72-74 degrees.


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Re: fully automatic terrarium? [Re: kindkesey]
    #1433828 - 04/06/03 04:50 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Kindkesey, whats that your using for humidification.


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Re: fully automatic terrarium? [Re: dankhead420]
    #1433851 - 04/06/03 05:16 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

The hippie uses perlite and changes it every 10-15 flushes, but hears geolite is more maintence free. He uses this fresh air exchange unit to push air to three 70 quart fruiting chambers, never fanning!!


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Re: fully automatic terrarium? [Re: dankhead420]
    #1433859 - 04/06/03 05:22 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

For a fully automated grow unit use a air bubbler in a resevoir of water to add oxygen and get ride of CO2 with some polyfilled holes in the bottom of the unit. Use a vicks cool mist humidifier with a timer to get the relative humidity to around 95%. Usually the ambient temperature of a room will be enough to keep it at ideal fruting temperatures.... but if not....
1) if your temps are too low then use a fish tank heater set on low in a glass bottle of water and H2O2 (mixed) and adjust to temp desired, place this bottle at the bottom of your unit (if multi-layered).
2) if your temps are too high then you will have problems, at this point do your best to relocate unit to basement or other cool area of your house.

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Re: fully automatic terrarium? [Re: kindkesey]
    #1433874 - 04/06/03 05:25 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

kindkesey how do you vent the Co2 build up? Also can you explain how you built that air exchange unit along with the materials needed?

If I get a cool mist humidifier would that be enough for air exchange and also push the Co2 out of the terrarium through some vent holes? Thx -MadmaN

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Re: fully automatic terrarium? [Re: DiarYofaMadmaN]
    #1433884 - 04/06/03 05:29 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

The fruiting chamber does not have a perfect seal. So the fresh air pushed in, pushes the unwanted Co2 out.


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Re: fully automatic terrarium? [Re: kindkesey]
    #1433902 - 04/06/03 05:40 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Isn't Co2 heavy and stays at the bottom? I'm guessing you have enough air power to push the Co2 up and out the top?

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Re: fully automatic terrarium? [Re: DiarYofaMadmaN]
    #1433910 - 04/06/03 05:45 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

the hippie built this with the following things:

$3 small rubbermaid tub
$3 fish tank hose
$3 tube of silicone, kitchen grade
$20 two medium sized aqurium pumps
$15 hepa filter (Mernards)

simply maid!!!


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Re: fully automatic terrarium? [Re: kindkesey]
    #1433919 - 04/06/03 05:52 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

What is Mernards? Where does one find a $15 HEPA filter? True HEPA?


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Re: fully automatic terrarium? [Re: robinhood2]
    #1433935 - 04/06/03 06:01 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Mernards is a home improvet store. It's a true hepa filter about 6in by10in. in size. The hippie get flushes like this:


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Re: fully automatic terrarium? [Re: kindkesey]
    #1433950 - 04/06/03 06:17 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

If you have a brand name of that $15 HEPA filter, the chinchilla would love to hear it.  He likes to do google searches to find out where he can get them locally  :wink:


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Re: fully automatic terrarium? [Re: robinhood2]
    #1433967 - 04/06/03 06:28 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

The hippie says its a RPS Products best air filter

RPS Products
Hampshire IL. 60140
#847-683-3400

Hope this works!!


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Re: fully automatic terrarium? [Re: kindkesey]
    #1434525 - 04/06/03 09:32 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

hippie is a good grower :laugh: I'm going to use hippies air intake tek and see what happends :-)  Thx for all your posts guys :laugh:

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Re: fully automatic terrarium? [Re: kindkesey]
    #1434565 - 04/06/03 09:41 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

One more question kindkesey heh before I let ya go. What is the model number of hippies HEPA filter?

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Re: fully automatic terrarium? [Re: DiarYofaMadmaN]
    #1434653 - 04/06/03 10:02 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

I had a friend who used to grow a long time ago. He got bad ass flushes w. only a coolmist hooked up to a rubbermaid and a flourescent light on top. Everything was taken care of w. this simple setup.

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Re: fully automatic terrarium? [Re: kindkesey]
    #1434800 - 04/06/03 10:39 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Was air exchange not a question? Its very possible to get a near fully automatic terrarium. It wont be cheap though. Considering im at a FreeBSD console running links right now, I wont bother to read this entire post. Anyways, depending on the cost of this device depends on the size of the terrarium, and how much space is being used. Cool spray humidifiers work great, espically with perlite. Its a deadly combo if you dont control the RH levels, but timed right can keep a consistent level of humidity. The temperature can be controlled (if a big issue) similar to various incubator teks. Theres other ways to control the heat, but you get the deal.

I recommend you read all the teks related to terrariums and incubators, you can get some good ideas. See what options are available for whatever setup your using. One day i'll post pics of my boys getup, but there really arent any guidlines set. It lacks air exchange, its just fanned all the time. Im sure a flowhood of some type with a HEPA filter would help alot :smile:


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Re: fully automatic terrarium? [Re: bjkroll]
    #1434965 - 04/06/03 11:43 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Shroomery's Automation FAQ's
dont' forget to look there, theres a lot of good information there, might be too high tech for your budget though


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Re: fully automatic terrarium? [Re: DiarYofaMadmaN]
    #1435120 - 04/07/03 01:25 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

You want to never open the chamber except to pick shrooms?

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Grow Log
Tek : PF
Strain : South American [SA]
Spores : Came from homemade prints. 36 total jars to be injected.
Substrate :Brown Rice Flour [BRF] and Vermiculite [Verm]
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10:15 PM 3/4/03 : Project is started. Jar prep is just putting small holes in the lids for the spore syringe and then taping them closed until inoculation. Tape used is the standard black electrical tape. First batch of jars is mixed. The mix used is 2 parts verm, 1 part water, and 1 part brf. [ This mix is the max fruiting formula by PF.] Mix is put into 1/2 pint canning jars lightly, not packed in, and left it airy. Put substrate in until it reaches the threads of the jar, then add dry verm the rest of the way.
Jars are PCd at 10psi or 240f for a period of 45 minutes. Then jars were left to sit overnight to cool.


8:39 PM 3/5/2003 : First batch of jars injected. (24 jars)

10:04 AM 3/6/2003 : Incubator is running to low 77F. Going to turn it up today.


5:45 PM 3/6/2003 : Second batch of jars is in the PC will be injected tomorrow. Turned up incubator runs at 83F. 86F is the best and if the incubator is 83F and myc growing in the jars is suppose to create a little heat I figure this should work out well.

1:11 PM 3/7/2003 : Second batch of jars is done. (12 jars)

12:10 PM 3/9/2003 : Jars are doing good, no signs of contams


2:54 AM 3/19/2003 : Tape removed from the holes today and coffee filters put over the top of the jars for added protection. Holes were opened so the CO2 in the jars could escape. I gave 12 jars to a friend who kept fucking up. 24 jar?s about 75%done.


12:13 PM 3/22/2003 : Well it's Saturday and the jars will probably be done by the 25th. So it was 36 jars. 12 were given to a friend, 24 done by Tuesday.

10:26 PM 3/23/2003 : 15 jars were done enough to put into dunk. I dunk and cold shock before birthing and after every flush. The other 9 jars have a spot the size of a pea that has to be covered so I'll do those on the 25th.


7:17 PM 3/24/2003 : 15 jars put into the pod. Put in and put a layer of dry verm on top. With geolite I just put the cakes on it. With some other chambers I put the cake on a lid filled with verm. This is done to give the shrooms on the bottom and the top of the cake some added moisture.
The other 9 jars just finished so I'm going to give them a couple more days to make sure the middle of the cake is done.


4:57 PM 3/27/2003 : 5 More cakes birthed today, 4 left going to do them tomorrow or 3/29/2003

3:58 PM 3/29/2003 : Well I lost another cake. My wife's little 1 cake pod made from a 2 liter and a small fish pump and a little geolite used up her last cake so I gave her a SA to grow. The last 3 are in the cold shock dunk.
So the total is 36 jars done all colonized with no contams. 12 given to a friend, 1 to the wife, 23 mine

12:08 PM 3/30/2003 : Last of jars put in

12:02 PM 3/31/2003 : The first 15 cakes are pinning nicely and some have shrooms coming from the bottom.


11:01 AM 4/3/2003 : Things look to be going well.


1:02 AM 4/4/2003 : Took the first flush from four of the cakes. More will be done later today.


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Re: fully automatic terrarium? [Re: DiarYofaMadmaN]
    #1436633 - 04/07/03 03:32 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

One more question kindkesey heh before I let ya go. What is the model number of hippies HEPA filter?




RPS Products Best Air Hepa Filter+ # H24, It say it fits a Holmes air cleaner model # HAP-245

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