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OfflineCyris69
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Should I trip again?
    #14333973 - 04/22/11 03:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Sorry if this is wrong forum area

I was once an avid shroomer over a 1.5 years ago. I grew my own as well as dosed about once a week for several months.

About 6 months or so after I stopped dosing I experience my first panic/anxiety attack. I haven't tripped in over a year since then. I couldn't leave my house for about 6 months after being diagnoses with severe anxiety/panic disorder. I'm still on zoloft 100mg, Buspirone 10mg, and xanax 1mg (as needed rarely take)

I've had one attack in the past several months recently following the next day after a long night of drinking out of state with my best friend.

I have never had an anxious episode before tripping but still while I had mild anxiety I would take .5mg xanax prior to dosing to cut the coming up edge. I did have what I think may have been a panic attack on my second to last trip a very long time ago but can't be sure.

I am 90% better anxiety wise today then I was once diagnosed. So my questions are;

1. Is it safe to trip on these medications?
2. What dose would be best for first time(again), I used to do 2.5g-4g's Mostly stayed under 3g's
3. Could this worsen my disorder now that it's manageable and I have much greater mind control when i feel symptoms and to prevent anxiety.
4. Should I do it alone? I have MANY trips under my belt and have been a trip guide but never have I soloed.
5. Is it fine to take half a xanax when dosing?

Also, anyone else's experiences with anxiety and tripping would be wonderful I've searched all over the net and get once answer which is no but that is from two posts years ago from no name sites.

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Re: Should I trip again? [Re: Cyris69]
    #14333980 - 04/22/11 03:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

One of my friends has bad anxiety and he said he has to take a xanax before he trips and then he's okay.

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Re: Should I trip again? [Re: Flop Johnson]
    #14334072 - 04/22/11 04:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

bad trip + anxiety attack , that would be gnarly:eek:

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Re: Should I trip again? [Re: spazmodog]
    #14334111 - 04/22/11 04:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Lol, yeah that one trip was terrible. One of the most vivid visuals I had. I thought I was dying. At first I couldn't even remember my name. I finally remembered it and just kept repeating to myself my name and all there is, is time it will be over soon. I did that for two hours filling like I was going to puke and I couldn't move or it felt worse. Not to mention it was hard to keep my eyes open let alone close them it was a mind fuck but randomly I snapped out of it and was fine.

I tripped again a month later and it was amazing so I think it was just one of those trips. I was in a different state in a strangers house my best friend was dog sitting for. No one else was there but me and him, I don't think that helped my state of mind with the setting.

It was actually interesting. The whole room was a techno mash but when i looked out the living room window everything was normal outside even the bird eating by the window it was wild.

I'm not afraid to trip again it changed my life for the better but I just don't want to go into a panic for the duration of a trip. Granted adrenaline does diminish and get rid of a trip the same way it does with pot's high.

I just want to get feedback from those in my situation or know those who have it and how they go about tripping while dealing with it. I love the week long after glow from tripping which I feel might help me.

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Re: Should I trip again? [Re: spazmodog]
    #14334243 - 04/22/11 04:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i had some bad acid, or maybe it was some RC, but it was on thick blotter(no taste), that triggered my first anxiety/panic attack.  and it would come in waves out of no where...pretty consistently.  i mean i was as calm as i could be and not feeding into anything to make it worse on myself, i just had to ride it out, and it lasted for days(less often as days past by)  i couldnt get high or drink coffee or none of that shit without it triggering an episode.

i read up on the internet that no one knows exactly what causes the fight flight chemicals in the brain to spontaneously release. but they think number one cause is the fear of having the next attack, which keeps one psychologically imprisoned unless they work on not giving in to fearing the next, because that thought in itself more times than not will be the catalyst.

on another note....i remember i was rolling a lot and i know some of the pills were junk and they left me feeling sick. like i was always pissed off and didnt want to be, it was just a feeling of irritation constantly there. i mean i could control myself, but i hated it.  I ended up getting some acid on altoids, which was much cleaner and seemed to actually fix my fucked up mind, or rebalance the chemicals better, i dont know, all i know is that it fixed whatever the roll abuse caused.  im not sure if shrooms would of done it for me if i had some at that time or not, but i wouldnt be afraid to take a small dose if i was you.  but i would make sure i was prepared so ur as strong in the mind as possible. 

I prepared my mind to think the way i wanted it to normally, and it really worked. i mean a low dose is therapeutic if u got the knowledge to help direct the trip the way u want. if u do this im sure u will achieve your week long afterglow.... i know what ur sayin, i fuckin love it too. positive vibes! :tripping:


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Re: Should I trip again? [Re: Flop Johnson]
    #14334618 - 04/22/11 06:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'll start with saying sorry about the anxiety, I used to have terrible attacks and none of the Rx would give me relief.  Small doses of marijuana and occasional mushroom trips really helped though. I hope the same for you.

1. Zoloft will decrease the effects of mushrooms, not to the point of not tripping but if you know your mushrooms you'll probably notice. Xanax is a great little mixer, it really helps with any anxiety that comes with tripping. I personally don't take one unless I feel a bad trip coming on but you might wanna take half before and save the other half if things go dark. Sorry I'm not familiar with Buspirone, hopefully some one will be nice and give you some more info.

2. I'd say 3 is pretty safe, depending on strain of course. If it were me knowing that zoloft would decrease my experience a little 3 would be a nice comfortable amount.

3. Dude, don't be shocked, I'm no doctor. Nor do I know a doctor that would reccomend taking hallucinogens with or without a disorder.

4. Thats a question for you to answer, I mean a babysitter is awesome when you're taking 5g or an maoi, I've never really found the need for smaller doses. A driver yes, a babysitter no. Now someone else tripping with you is a different story. I'd worry about ruining someone's trip if you start freaking out.

5. Was answered in 1.  What's the point of a Xanax Rx if you're not gonna take em.

Also you might wanna figure out what triggers or triggered your anxiety. If it's something that's easily removable, get it the fuck out. Set & setting my friend.

Good luck to you. I wish you a peaceful journey.


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Re: Should I trip again? [Re: OmnerMG]
    #14334709 - 04/22/11 06:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks for the posts. It's nice to hear from you guys who have an idea or know what I'm asking/going through.

I was thinking similar to it helping not just with the afterglow but rewiring my chemicals so to speak.

Buspirone is a pill I'm supposed to take twice a day but I only do in the morning. It's in the same family as xanax but get's build up into the system so like a 24 hr xanax it's a break through preventative.

That was my problem I was freaked about when the next attack would happen and sure enough it caused one, then the next, and next till I was having numerous amounts a day. To the point I was ready to end it. Granted I have a fear of death so it wasn't a real option but I had really considered it.

Shrooming for me isn't all about the high or visuals it's more about the state of mind and the expanding my thought horizon which I think will be beneficial to my current state. My perfect dose was 2.5 I was thinking about starting with a .5-1g does then see how it goes just to get an idea how the coming up feeling is going to take me. On my homegrown 1g was plenty to give nice calming effects and nice visuals. 3-4 was insane but wonderful.

Well the point of the xanax is just a calming thing for me knowing I have it if I need it. I try and cope and deal with it mentally without the need for it. It's help build my control level up quite a bit.

I hope to hear some more comments from others just to help boost me or steer me away. Thanks of you who took the time to relate and give me feedback + good vibes!

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Re: Should I trip again? [Re: Cyris69]
    #14334814 - 04/22/11 07:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

grr panic attacks blow i have bad agoraphobia also wouldnt recomend tripping and ssri's make it hard to trip id recomend a totally different drug but then again yer not tryin to nod off into bliss

no im not a junkie never touched mr.brownstone


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Re: Should I trip again? [Re: Flop Johnson]
    #14335180 - 04/22/11 08:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i had heard you shouldnt take benzos before the trip, only if it starts to turn into a bad trip is when you should take it.


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Re: Should I trip again? [Re: TheCreampie]
    #14335315 - 04/22/11 08:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Benzos make you come down from a trip. If you eat them before you will have to eat excess of whatever psych you have to trip harder. It will also kill your trip as above.


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