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Wbs jars are 99.99% colonized except very top. Its been 2 days since it stopped.
    #14334160 - 04/22/11 04:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So I knocked up some half pints of wbs with an lc and they are 99.99% colonized except the very top. Maybe a 1/16th of an inch. Its been 2 days since it got to that point. I plan on g2g to quarts some time this weekend. Is this close enough to colonized? Should I give them another shake maybe?


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Re: Wbs jars are 99.99% colonized except very top. Its been 2 days since it stopped. [Re: Karate_donkey]
    #14334190 - 04/22/11 04:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

you should chill out for another 2 days at least.


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Re: Wbs jars are 99.99% colonized except very top. Its been 2 days since it stopped. [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #14334294 - 04/22/11 04:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Shake and then the next day do your transfer.  I transfer even if the top isnt colonized, usually it is just the fact that the grains get too dry by that time sometimes.  If you're working in a sterile environment then it doesnt matter if 1/6th of an inch isnt colonized...your dumping it into an uncolonized jar or bag anyway :shrug: 

If your really worried about that little bit then shake and when you see the myc recovering the next day or so, transfer.


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Re: Wbs jars are 99.99% colonized except very top. Its been 2 days since it stopped. [Re: crp32008]
    #14334327 - 04/22/11 05:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Let it consolidate for another 5-8 days or until you see pins forming. Then mix it into your properly prepared bulk substrate.


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Re: Wbs jars are 99.99% colonized except very top. Its been 2 days since it stopped. [Re: healing]
    #14334343 - 04/22/11 05:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Let it consolidate for another 5-8 days or until you see pins forming. Then mix it into your properly prepared bulk substrate.



Why?  If the myc is stalled then it means one of three things, contams/dead, too much co2 and not enough GE, or too dry.  Either way, waiting an arbitrary amount doesn't make it start moving again.


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Re: Wbs jars are 99.99% colonized except very top. Its been 2 days since it stopped. [Re: crp32008]
    #14334373 - 04/22/11 05:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Let it consolidate for another 5-8 days or until you see pins forming. Then mix it into your properly prepared bulk substrate.



Why?  If the myc is stalled then it means one of three things, contams/dead, too much co2 and not enough GE, or too dry.  Either way, waiting an arbitrary amount doesn't make it start moving again.




You're not looking for the top layer to colonize, it's probably too dry. I said that you should let your jars consolidate before you mix them into your sub (uncolonized seeds and all.)

You've already allowed them to consolidate for 2 days. 7-10 days is recommended, but if you see pins forming before that, birth them immediately.

I just realized that you're wanting to do a g2g. You should still let the grains consolidate for the same amount of time. Then shake the crap out of them and do your g2g.


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Re: Wbs jars are 99.99% colonized except very top. Its been 2 days since it stopped. [Re: healing]
    #14334379 - 04/22/11 05:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Shake em up.


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Re: Wbs jars are 99.99% colonized except very top. Its been 2 days since it stopped. [Re: esquaredx]
    #14334404 - 04/22/11 05:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Once they are colonized why do you need to let them "consolidate" which is an ambiguous term here seeing as the once they are colonized they are ready for transfer.  I don't know where people got this waiting period after colonization.  You only wait after colonization to birth or induce fruiting.  If you wait on grains you can get over lay, drying out, pins, or less vigorous growth when you transfer.  Someone point me to a source saying wait an arbitrary amount. 

No disrespect but Im trying to understand where all the misconceptions come from.


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Re: Wbs jars are 99.99% colonized except very top. Its been 2 days since it stopped. [Re: crp32008]
    #14334407 - 04/22/11 05:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

They are most likely taking information from the PF tek and trying to use it here.... :shrug:

Just shake it up, let it colonize, then your good money.


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Re: Wbs jars are 99.99% colonized except very top. Its been 2 days since it stopped. [Re: esquaredx]
    #14334411 - 04/22/11 05:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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It's not just for pf tek.  You should allow at least a week of consolidation for all fruiting substrates after full colonization.  It's not necessary with spawn.
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I was wrong. Just shake and wait for full colonization before you do a g2g.


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Re: Wbs jars are 99.99% colonized except very top. Its been 2 days since it stopped. [Re: healing]
    #14334416 - 04/22/11 05:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Like I said :rolleyes:


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Re: Wbs jars are 99.99% colonized except very top. Its been 2 days since it stopped. [Re: esquaredx]
    #14334422 - 04/22/11 05:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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They are most likely taking information from the PF tek and trying to use it here.... :shrug:

Just shake it up, let it colonize, then your good money.



Ah, right hahaha I did pf tek like once or twice and was fed up with the mess versus the reward.  I'm glad to see people stepping it up to grains and bulks though.  Honestly if BRF could be pasteurized (which it can't) I would use that as a bulk sub because it has the highest BE out of most of the substrates if not all of them.  Unfortunately the only way to "bulk" brf is to use it in grain bags and make a verm, gypsum, brf, wbs mix or something along those lines, sterilize it, knock up, and let it colonize in a sterile environment.  Sortof like doing wronguy bags except with brf (which ive done and works pretty well).  In the end though its better to just use a pasteurized sub to avoid contams and still get large flushes.


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Re: Wbs jars are 99.99% colonized except very top. Its been 2 days since it stopped. [Re: healing]
    #14334426 - 04/22/11 05:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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RogerRabbit said:
It's not just for pf tek.  You should allow at least a week of consolidation for all fruiting substrates after full colonization.  It's not necessary with spawn.
RR




I was wrong. Just shake and wait for full colonization before you do a g2g.



No worries, thats why i figured Id double check and ask ya for a ref.


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