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Drug 'Molly' may have played role in SUNY Canton student's suicide
#14333830 - 04/22/11 03:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/article/20110420/NEWS05/304209972
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CANTON — A SUNY Canton student who committed suicide Sunday night is suspected to have taken a drug named "Molly," which produces effects similar to Ecstasy, authorities said.
Cory A. Bercume, 21, was found with slit wrists and stab wounds to his chest. He was found in the yard at 25 Dies St., village police said.
An autopsy done Monday night by forensic pathologist Dr. Samuel A. Livingstone at Canton-Potsdam Hospital, Potsdam, found he died of multiple stab wounds, St. Lawrence County Coroner James M. Sienkiewycz said. The death was ruled a suicide. Toxicology and blood tests are pending.
Authorities said they were not sure when Mr. Bercume last could have taken the drug before his death. Police said they also were searching for those who supplied him with the drug.
The drug "Molly," which is a nearly pure form of Ecstasy, can produce hallucinogenic reactions when taken in larger doses, the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration website says. The drug, which is a white powder that generally is sold in a gelatin capsule, is targeted toward high school and college students and sometimes is sold at rave parties. Authorities did not reveal what led them to believe Mr. Bercume had taken the drug.
The student set his bed on fire, and when police arrived Sunday at his residence at 28 1/2 Dies St., they found his bedroom aflame. There was minor damage to the house. Mr. Bercume graduated from Potsdam High School in 2008, where he played hockey, soccer and lacrosse. He continued playing hockey at SUNY Canton.
"There's no words that can express what's been going on," SUNY Canton men's hockey coach Eric McCambly said Tuesday. "It's tough and it will be tough."
The coach dismissed notions that Mr. Bercume had taken illegal drugs. "Cory is an irreplaceable type of person," Mr. McCambly said. "The type of kid he was, the type of character he had, this is completely out of character for him. It doesn't make any sense. I've never known him to be anything but upbeat and positive — a role model for the team."
Mr. Bercume left no indication why he took his life, police said. The investigation is continuing. Times staff writer Lori Shull contributed to this report.
Edited by 5-HT2A (04/25/11 09:02 PM)
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Re: Drug 'Molly' may have played role in SUNY Canton student's suicide [Re: 5-HT2A]
#14333855 - 04/22/11 03:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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This is a stupid article. They claim suicide and drug use, but they have no suicide letter, no mention of the knife that he was stabbed with, and his bed was on fire. So he stabbed himself and then set his bed on fire? Or vice versa? Probably not. He probably got in a fight with his dealer and got killed over it.
They also don't tell why they think he was on drugs. Overall, this is completely
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Re: Drug 'Molly' may have played role in SUNY Canton student's suicide [Re: Joolz]
#14333874 - 04/22/11 03:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Oh my god the author of this article has no idea what MDMA is.
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Re: Drug 'Molly' may have played role in SUNY Canton student's suicide [Re: Rabid Jelly Bean]
#14333981 - 04/22/11 03:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Drug 'Molly' may have played role in SUNY Canton student's suicide [Re: The Vapor]
#14334010 - 04/22/11 03:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I know of a drug named smack that produces effects similar to heroin.
Who'd a thunk it!
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Re: Drug 'Molly' may have played role in SUNY Canton student's suicide [Re: The Whale]
#14334049 - 04/22/11 03:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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this guy tried to sell me "chronic" and he said it was like marijuana except better
at first i was like then i was like
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Re: Drug 'Molly' may have played role in SUNY Canton student's suicide [Re: iamnotadream]
#14334119 - 04/22/11 04:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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What a terrible article.
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Re: Drug 'Molly' may have played role in SUNY Canton student's suicide [Re: bryguy27007]
#14334368 - 04/22/11 05:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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They probably only ruled it a suicide because drugs were involved.. Sounds like a homicide to me.
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Re: Drug 'Molly' may have played role in SUNY Canton student's suicide [Re: iamnotadream]
#14334432 - 04/22/11 05:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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AHAHAHAHAHHAA
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iamnotadream said: this guy tried to sell me "chronic" and he said it was like marijuana except better
at first i was like then i was like 
"molly" ahahahahahhahahaah lmAo i dont even know what to say....
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Re: Drug 'Molly' may have played role in SUNY Canton student's suicide [Re: SHRAMANN]
#14334471 - 04/22/11 05:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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The police and the author of this article are really fucking ignorant.
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Re: Drug 'Molly' may have played role in SUNY Canton student's suicide [Re: Makalaster]
#14334613 - 04/22/11 06:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Anyone ever try LSD? I hear it's a lot like acid.
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Re: Drug 'Molly' may have played role in SUNY Canton student's suicide [Re: Remix]
#14334649 - 04/22/11 06:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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There's this thing too called "Lucy" that's kind of like LSD but twice as good.
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Re: Drug 'Molly' may have played role in SUNY Canton student's suicide [Re: Diacetylmentlegen]
#14334681 - 04/22/11 06:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Never tried that, bro. I've only had this stuff called blue cheer. I really wanna try LSD, tho.
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Re: Drug 'Molly' may have played role in SUNY Canton student's suicide [Re: Remix]
#14334722 - 04/22/11 06:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ignorance...
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Re: Drug 'Molly' may have played role in SUNY Canton student's suicide [Re: Dave Bowman]
#14335087 - 04/22/11 08:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Come on guys, I ALWAYS set my bed on fire and stab myself when im rolling. maybe you guys are just doing it wrong?
....this report is retarded.
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Re: Drug 'Molly' may have played role in SUNY Canton student's suicide [Re: Jamio]
#14335091 - 04/22/11 08:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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My shit was always cut with a little crystal. I was always afraid that carrying a knife wouldn't end well for me, seeing as I get shaky and stuff.
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Re: Drug 'Molly' may have played role in SUNY Canton student's suicide [Re: 5-HT2A]
#14335234 - 04/22/11 08:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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5-HT2A said: The student set his bed on fire, and when police arrived Sunday at his residence at 28 1/2 Dies St., they found his bedroom aflame. There was minor damage to the house.
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Re: Drug 'Molly' may have played role in SUNY Canton student's suicide [Re: anomaly100716]
#14335832 - 04/22/11 10:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Authorities did not reveal what led them to believe Mr. Bercume had taken the drug.
Well thats some responsible headline reporting if i've ever seen it. Also who commits suicide via multiple stab wounds to the chest? Sounds like he got stabbed to death and then the perp cut his wrists to make it look like a suicide.
I also like the comment that he couldn't have been taking molly because he was a nice kid who was upbeat and positive. I'm never more upbeat and positive than when I'm rolling tits..
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Re: Drug 'Molly' may have played role in SUNY Canton student's suicide [Re: 5-HT2A] 1
#14335835 - 04/22/11 10:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Drug 'Molly' may have played role in SUNY Canton student's suicide [Re: user1837483975]
#14336728 - 04/23/11 01:36 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm guessing the cops are lazy and just don't want to investigate a murder so they ruled it a suicide. Sad for his family because it is obviously a homicide. No body stabs themselves in the chest. The slit wrists are the murderer trying to make it look like a suicide and the bed on fire is trying to destroy any evidence. I'm not religious at all but I will pray for this dude's soul tonight as I think he needs it.
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Re: Drug 'Molly' may have played role in SUNY Canton student's suicide [Re: 5-HT2A] 1
#14337525 - 04/23/11 09:06 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I wrote that dumb motherfucker an email. You should too.
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I wanted to write you about this article, and how blatantly obvious it appears to be a homicide and not a suicide. Who stabs them self in the chest multiple times to commit suicide? It appears another individual stabbed him in the chest and set his bed on fire before slitting his wrists to make it appear a suicide. Besides that, you should do some decent research on a drug before you write about it. Ecstasy is made from molly(mdma). Ecstasy comes in the form of pressed pills which should contain only molly(mdma), pill binder, and/or coloring. Due to prohibition, most ecstasy pills contain a handful of other chemicals which mimic the effects of mdma(molly). Furthermore, the euphoria and other sensations that molly or true ecstasy pills can make you feel would have suicide being the LAST thing on your mind. No one, and I repeat, no one would ever kill them self under the influence of molly or true ecstasy. It does not produce a "trip"; in which, you may feel you will be "stuck" or feel helpless.
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Re: Drug 'Molly' may have played role in SUNY Canton student's suicide [Re: Remix]
#14338316 - 04/23/11 12:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Remix said: Anyone ever try LSD? I hear it's a lot like acid.
nah, you guys have been getting acid; it's cut with strychnine
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Re: Drug 'Molly' may have played role in SUNY Canton student's suicide [Re: destructo_low]
#14338345 - 04/23/11 12:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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destructo_low said: I wrote that dumb motherfucker an email. You should too.
"DWINTERS@WDT.NET"
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I wanted to write you about this article, and how blatantly obvious it appears to be a homicide and not a suicide. Who stabs them self in the chest multiple times to commit suicide?
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14300608
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Re: Drug 'Molly' may have played role in SUNY Canton student's suicide [Re: The Whale]
#14338570 - 04/23/11 01:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mdma don't do that. Makes u to happy to die.
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Re: Drug 'Molly' may have played role in SUNY Canton student's suicide [Re: destructo_low]
#14349156 - 04/25/11 01:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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how about you stop being so fucking arrogent, you do not know ANYTHING about what happend to that person at suny canton. how can you fucking sit there and even begin to talk about what you THINK happened when clearly you have no fucking clue. i'd stop spending your time commenting on shit that has nothing to do with you and attempt to get your own life. your pathetic as every one of these people on here are. i made this account JUST to tell you this and i hope to god this gets spread around. you know nothing, so keep your pathetic mouth shut. asshole.
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Re: Drug 'Molly' may have played role in SUNY Canton student's suicide [Re: 1727]
#14349204 - 04/25/11 01:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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1727 said: how about you stop being so fucking arrogent, you do not know ANYTHING about what happend to that person at suny canton. how can you fucking sit there and even begin to talk about what you THINK happened when clearly you have no fucking clue. i'd stop spending your time commenting on shit that has nothing to do with you and attempt to get your own life. your pathetic as every one of these people on here are. i made this account JUST to tell you this and i hope to god this gets spread around. you know nothing, so keep your pathetic mouth shut. asshole.
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#14349282 - 04/25/11 02:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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1727 said: how about you stop being so fucking arrogent, you do not know ANYTHING about what happend to that person at suny canton. how can you fucking sit there and even begin to talk about what you THINK happened when clearly you have no fucking clue. i'd stop spending your time commenting on shit that has nothing to do with you and attempt to get your own life. your pathetic as every one of these people on here are. i made this account JUST to tell you this and i hope to god this gets spread around. you know nothing, so keep your pathetic mouth shut. asshole.
Congrats, you're the dumbest person in this thread. Every sentence is nothing but facepalm.
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Re: Drug 'Molly' may have played role in SUNY Canton student's suicide [Re: thissongis]
#14349455 - 04/25/11 02:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Raging at people over the internet isn't going to do anything. Its best if you just kept your mouth shut, little one.
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Re: Drug 'Molly' may have played role in SUNY Canton student's suicide [Re: 1727]
#14350133 - 04/25/11 04:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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1727 said: how about you stop being so fucking arrogent, you do not know ANYTHING about what happend to that person at suny canton. how can you fucking sit there and even begin to talk about what you THINK happened when clearly you have no fucking clue. i'd stop spending your time commenting on shit that has nothing to do with you and attempt to get your own life. your pathetic as every one of these people on here are. i made this account JUST to tell you this and i hope to god this gets spread around. you know nothing, so keep your pathetic mouth shut. asshole.
No explanation, really? Let us know when you have something of importance to say. The article provides no information and your rant just makes the whole thing seem more suspicious. So maybe identify your role in the whole situation and what makes you credible or just stop playing telephone tough guy.
Some of the people here, or losers as you put it, tend to possess a much more sophisticated understanding of drugs than most people. The article is vague and due to the relatively high dose-response curve of MDMA, we find it hard to believe the person could have taken those actions.
Assuming he simply killed himself because he was so overwhelmed, he would have to have consumed quite a lot and most likely spent a significant amount of money. That is unless he was taking some medication that compounded the drug's effects (which is not the drug's fault) or had some extremely rare allergy to the substance. But alas no discussion of that in the article at all.
A more likely explanation would be that he took MDPV or some related substance, which has been known to cause violent and self destructive behavior in high doses. Personally, I don't know if this sounds like a murder or not. Lighting your bed on fire so it gets big takes some coordination and when you are overstimulated enough to want to die I doubt you could coordinate a fire easily.
Finally, how do you figure that we're all automatically losers even though you don't know any of us, and yet this kid's dead and we're all still alive? How do you account for that? Somehow we're living losers using drugs and he's a dead winner who overdosed on drugs. Funny.
We're going to continue saying what we think happened because that's what we do. We think about shit, unlike you.
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Re: Drug 'Molly' may have played role in SUNY Canton student's suicide [Re: 5-HT2A]
#14358347 - 04/26/11 10:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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well....its not the first time something has been blamed on Molly.
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Re: Drug 'Molly' may have played role in SUNY Canton student's suicide [Re: 5-HT2A]
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Update ...
Coroner: No Drugs In Student's System June 26, 2011 - mpcourier.com
CANTON - There is no evidence a popular hockey player for SUNY Canton was high on drugs or alcohol when he committed suicide, Canton's police chief said Wednesday.
Cory Bercume, 21, of Potsdam, died April 17 when he set fire to his apartment in Canton, injured himself with a knife and collapsed and died on the street in front of his apartment.
Police originally said Bercume's death may be linked to pure form of 'Ecstacy,' known as 'Molly.'
However, Canton police chief Alan Mulkin said Wednesday that toxicology tests showed no drugs or alcohol in Bercume's system.
Police continue to believe Bercume's death was a suicide, Mulkin said, though they are troubled by the lack of explanation for his behavior on the night he died.
The results from the toxicology tests came back earlier this week, Mulkin said.
The rumors of the use of the drug Molly was just that, a rumor.
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Really makes you wonder why they would even say that to begin with.
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Re: Drug 'Molly' may have played role in SUNY Canton student's suicide [Re: Remix]
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CANTON — A SUNY Canton student who committed suicide Sunday night is suspected to have taken a drug named "Molly," which produces effects similar to Ecstasy, authorities said.
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The drug "Molly," which is a nearly pure form of Ecstasy, can produce hallucinogenic reactions when taken in larger doses, the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration website says. The drug, which is a white powder that generally is sold in a gelatin capsule, is targeted toward high school and college students and sometimes is sold at rave parties. Authorities did not reveal what led them to believe Mr. Bercume had taken the drug.
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Re: Drug 'Molly' may have played role in SUNY Canton student's suicide [Re: 1727]
#14682845 - 06/27/11 09:50 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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1727 said: how about you stop being so fucking arrogent, you do not know ANYTHING about what happend to that person at suny canton. how can you fucking sit there and even begin to talk about what you THINK happened when clearly you have no fucking clue. i'd stop spending your time commenting on shit that has nothing to do with you and attempt to get your own life. your pathetic as every one of these people on here are. i made this account JUST to tell you this and i hope to god this gets spread around. you know nothing, so keep your pathetic mouth shut. asshole.
Hmmm, I wonder if this was a family member who desperately wants to blame the suicide on drugs or just a troll.
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Re: Drug 'Molly' may have played role in SUNY Canton student's suicide [Re: Darwin23]
#14684863 - 06/28/11 07:28 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I dunno about you guys but lighting my bed on fire while rolling is my favorite pastime. 
I love how the cops jump to conclusions though, "oh he must have been on that new drug I hear kids do now adays, whats it called, molly?"
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