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Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO]
#14332938 - 04/22/11 11:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Initiatives to legalize pot in the works DenverPost
An organizer of a campaign to put a marijuana-legalization initiative on the 2012 ballot said Thursday the measure would likely apply only to those over age 21 and would allow personal possession of only small amounts.
Brian Vicente, the executive director of Sensible Colorado and one of the voices behind the Colorado Legalization 2012 campaign, said the draft-initiative language would create a state-licensed system of pot shops, similar to the regulatory system for liquor stores, and would allow individuals to grow small amounts of marijuana on their own. He said marijuana sales would likely be subject to a special excise tax.
Details are still being worked out, Vicente said. The campaign has yet to file any initiative language with the state.
"We think it's got a really good shot of passing," Vicente said during a panel discussion at the annual conference of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws.
Vicente's campaign is one of two that have said they are working to put a marijuana-legalization initiative on Colorado's 2012 ballot. A group called Legalize 2012 is also formulating an initiative. On its website, that campaign says it will propose a "freedom-based" model, with "no unreasonable limits on personal possession" and no extra taxes beyond standard sales tax.
Vicente's campaign has the backing of major players in national marijuana politics, and at the NORML conference, a number of those leaders expressed optimism about 2012 campaigns in Colorado, California and Washington.
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: bigmike7104]
#14332952 - 04/22/11 11:41 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Bumping for great justice!
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: bigmike7104]
#14333220 - 04/22/11 12:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I may begin looking for a job in Colorado or Maine if either of those states legalizes it.
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: destructo_low]
#14333410 - 04/22/11 01:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm in Colorado. This would be so great for civil liberties, and that's first and foremost compared to pot quality. I gotta say though, the medical weed market has only destroyed colorados reputation as having only the highest quality dank. I can't see this system coming out with any danker commercially grown bud. As long as they fully legalize the home cultivation, then FUCK YES COLORADO!!!
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: LightShedder]
#14333851 - 04/22/11 03:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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^ i thought medical dispensaries only carry brand name bud?
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: bigmike7104]
#14333894 - 04/22/11 03:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I like the second group a lot better, Legalize 2012.
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: LightShedder]
#14334525 - 04/22/11 05:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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LightShedder said: I gotta say though, the medical weed market has only destroyed colorados reputation as having only the highest quality dank.
I'm not sure how you've come to this conclusion. Care to explain?
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: floatingwater]
#14334652 - 04/22/11 06:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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colorados lookin better and better each day.
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: JesusGoneRogue]
#14334790 - 04/22/11 07:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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would be a place to go on vacation if it passes..
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: bigmike7104]
#14335072 - 04/22/11 08:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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bigmike7104 said: ^ i thought medical dispensaries only carry brand name bud?
Dispensaries have some OK bud. It's 35-40 an eighth for a reason.
They do have name brands though. I sampled AK-48 (not 47 apparently) the other week and it was superb.
Name brands tend to sell out faster than hell and only the not-so-good crumbly dry buds remain. As far as I know. I have a few buddies with cards, I don't carry one myself. This is what I've experienced and what I've been told.
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: iamnotadream]
#14335095 - 04/22/11 08:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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35-40 an 8th for DISPINSARY grown weed is a whole lot better than I'm doing now.
Just sayin'.
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: Joolz]
#14335166 - 04/22/11 08:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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When I lived in Austin I was paying 50 an 8th for way better nug. I'd rather have that than the dispensary midgrades, even at 35 an eighth.
However their name brands are cheaper and better. They just sell out faster, leaving it unavailable for cardless suckers like me.
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: iamnotadream]
#14335409 - 04/22/11 09:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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something tells me that CO will pull this off and not screw it up like CA
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: ash057]
#14335447 - 04/22/11 09:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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It should be interesting. I've yet to meet anyone here who is against legalization in this state, and that includes the episcopalians that go to church across my street. I bet the cops will vote for it too - they simply don't give two shits about pot. Would be a great disappointment if it went the way of prop 19
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: iamnotadream]
#14335498 - 04/22/11 09:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well, it's attempt # 2 or 3.. The last time it was voted on was 2007 I believe for legalization of up to one ounce of cannabis for adults over the age of 21. It didn't pass but it was 40% pro, 60% against.
It's pretty relaxed as it is... If the common consensus is to put it on paper, than put it on paper
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: floatingwater]
#14335632 - 04/22/11 09:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Colorado? Great place to set up the commune, sounds good.
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: Nymphaea]
#14335654 - 04/22/11 09:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've been to michigan too buddy.. You're next
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: floatingwater]
#14335975 - 04/22/11 10:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Only downside is it'll be harder to trade for weed. I currently get the medical eights mentioned upthread for an ounce of fungus. The exchange rate is skewed, but it's still better than buying the stuff.
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: Doc_T]
#14336028 - 04/22/11 11:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Really? I'd want at least twice that. And that's being nice.
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: iamnotadream]
#14336162 - 04/22/11 11:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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You get what you get. Schwaggy brick weed trades even, ounce for ounce. Medical grade is far more expensive. And I usually get the drier crumblier bits mentioned upthread, which are still really tasty. I try to get a half or more at a time, otherwise it just goes too fast. So that's a qp of shrooms.
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: Doc_T]
#14338997 - 04/23/11 03:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Seriously? An eighth of herb for an ounce of mushrooms?
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: floatingwater]
#14339010 - 04/23/11 03:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yep. Which works out to half an ounce of medical grade herb for about three bucks worth of coir and birdseed.
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: Doc_T]
#14339191 - 04/23/11 03:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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someone's ripping off someone here.. not really sure who's who though
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: floatingwater]
#14339206 - 04/23/11 03:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I feel the same way about the matter, I promise.
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: Doc_T]
#14339320 - 04/23/11 04:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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If you're the one who's trading an ounce of mushrooms for an eighth of weed than i'm confused. You could easily get way more herb. Do you have the whole guilty conscience thing going on or something?
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: floatingwater]
#14339339 - 04/23/11 04:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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floatingwater said: You could easily get way more herb.
If you're making an offer, shoot me a PM. Otherwise, just understand that you're wrong. The exchange rate for the locally grown medical stuff is all out of whack, that's the free market in action.
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: Doc_T]
#14339390 - 04/23/11 04:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Honestly dude, I would do the same thing Doc_T is doing. Shrooms sell for 5-10 bucks a gram, true, but you can sell literally 4 1/8ths of shrooms and make enough money to grow like 100 times that.
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: Doc_T]
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: batman returns]
#14343512 - 04/24/11 01:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm from Austin, went to BOULDER. The bud in boulder was dank before the medical boom. Anyone who questions the quality of "dispensary" bud obviously hasn't ever seen any. Yes it's 25-40 an 1/8th. But it's honestly mids I used to pay 100 a zip for out in Texas. I would prefer paying 50-60 an eighth for good chronic as opposed to 25 for crap commercially-grown warehouse shit. Dispensaries pack 5 warehouses full of 600 plants each! Believe me, this energy/lack of attention affects pot quality in a negative way.
You'll only find the warehouse bullshit in legal states where it's legal to do so, and small closet-grown chronic in places where it's illegal.
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: Owsley2.0]
#14344706 - 04/24/11 06:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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there's definitely dank in boulder.
having your medical card doesnt = dank
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: iamnotadream]
#14347421 - 04/25/11 03:32 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's like a needle in a haystack. Granted there's lots of needles, but the haystack is just annoyingly larger.
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: iamnotadream]
#14347428 - 04/25/11 03:35 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
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having your medical card doesnt = dank
That's why it's worrisome to think what the legal weed would look like.
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: BrownCow]
#14347461 - 04/25/11 03:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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BrownCow said: It's like a needle in a haystack. Granted there's lots of needles, but the haystack is just annoyingly larger.
I love this analogy 
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having your medical card doesnt = dank
That's why it's worrisome to think what the legal weed would look like.
I'm not too worried about it. Yea, there will be lots of shitty weed, but there will be lots of good weed too. Mainstream will sell shwaggy cigarettes, however there will be opportunities for mom-and-pop businesses to flourish the streets with their humble homegrown buds which isn't the case with this medical marijuana bullshit...
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: bigmike7104]
#14358383 - 04/26/11 10:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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its good to hear
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: iamnotadream]
#14359013 - 04/27/11 12:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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You think they'll even allow mom and pap shops? I hope so. I would think they would make a strict policy on who can/can't sell and make it a bitch to obtain the license. Like anything sold has got to be from a company that's FDA inspected and it'd be nearly impossible to get the go from them as a small-time dank grower. I hope I'm wrong but I was just so disappointed with the mmj scene I can't help but be slightly pessimistic about this. Either way, freedom first so the sooner they legalize, the better.
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: BrownCow]
#14359218 - 04/27/11 01:22 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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i agree with mr. browncow. they should just fucking legalize it instead of only letting growers cultivate small amounts, its obviously only driven by money, and thats not how good bills are made. (not that there is such a thing as a good bill)
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: BrownCow]
#14359716 - 04/27/11 06:30 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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BrownCow said: Budweiser didn't stop the homebrewers from brewin!
Actually, yes. Homebrewing was illegal until very recently, last 20 years or so,
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: Doc_T]
#14359955 - 04/27/11 08:11 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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First of all, just because something is illegal doesn't mean that people aren't doing it. You should all know that much.
And my more opinionated second point:
The main reason to get your medical card, or to have cannabis legalized all together, should be so that anyone can grow their own herb. Of course there is average grade seedless cannabis at dispensaries. That market is fueled by the people who just want weed to smoke and they want it cheap. As long as it tastes all right and gets you stoned, these people aren't looking for captain kush x skunk 99 fireball x play-doh. The people who are looking for the conneisseur strains are the people who have been smoking for a while and are looking for flavor content. The people who realize that any weed will "get you stoned" but only certain strains will deliver the punch straight to the head and not the rest of the body, or vice versa, or whatever.
To sum up my rant.. legalization of cannabis would certainly bring in mass produced commercial chronic but you will also see a subculture of extremely fine strains pop-up as well (it's not like it all ready has though).. It's up to you, the consumer, to grow it yourself if you can't find it available. Then you can get whatever it is you want out of the whole thing.
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: floatingwater]
#14359976 - 04/27/11 08:20 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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^i don't see how it's much different from now. until last year i couldn't always get top of the line bud. point being there's always going to be shitty pot on the market, whether it's legal or illegal, and the same goes for the heady kind.
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: Doc_T]
#14360556 - 04/27/11 11:01 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah I know, but anyone I knew who wanted to still brewed when it was illegal. Same with dank bud. This will just be the legalized brewin step for cannabis. Except Weed wasn't legal to buy before now, like beer was before brewin.
I don't think that made any sense.
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: BrownCow]
#14360573 - 04/27/11 11:06 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Wouldn't you think though that if it is at all possible to grow super fuckin heady like best-weed-ever nug, they would just do it? No matter what it takes. Even if it means hiring a grower per 40 plants instead of every 200. And do multiple smaller batches as opposed to huge warehouse crops. If it's legal, why are t they doing whatever they need to to deliver the chron?
Those are all rhetorical btw, I'm sure most of you agreed with me the first time you realized "medical marijuana" gave you headaches lol.
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: BrownCow]
#14362635 - 04/27/11 05:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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BrownCow said: I'm sure most of you agreed with me the first time you realized "medical marijuana" gave you headaches lol.
Say what? Sounds like you need to find a better dispensary and stop buying those 20 dollar eighths.
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: floatingwater]
#14363389 - 04/27/11 08:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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This has been covered my friend
"the haystack is just annoyingly larger"
If you wanted to have a "my weeds better than urs" or a "my penis is sexier than ur penis", I would kill you in both of those competitions. jk. But seriously.
I'm not saying I smoke any if the hay. I'm just saying I didn't expect there to be so much stinkin the place up.
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: BrownCow]
#14365623 - 04/28/11 07:46 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't know what a needle in a haystack has anything to do with it..
You have your card right? Go get a clone and some lights. In three months, if you do a little research, you'll have a continuous crop that will be as heady as the effort you put in to it.
There is no needle and forget about the haystack.
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: floatingwater]
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Your missing the point. It sounds like he's not complaining about the bud he's smoking in. He's just pointing out something I'm surprised about also. I would have guessed to see only top quality heady nugs in shops and dont know how they manage to sell the shit on most places shelves. I'd say 1 in 10 dispensaries I've been to in Denver has smokeable bud. Maybe 1 in 4 in boulder. I mean if you grow yours or buy from regular small growers, you're not effected by it. But if you are a sick patient who needs a caregiver or dispensary to grow for you, your headache will only worsen.
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mcmanusj84
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Re: Initiatives to legalize pot in the works [CO] [Re: LightShedder]
#14370932 - 04/29/11 01:43 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Agreed with most of the post in this thread. Used to buy from the shops downtown/pearl area. Realized that most if not all of them were simply corporate fronts for people growing multiple 100 light warehouses. Not just hearsay, I talked to some of the guys behind the counter at multiple dispensaries who went into great detail about their setups. Nothing about it was personal, it was simply mass produced warehouse bud. I'm very glad that I met up with a very quality grower who knows what he's doing. Organic, small scale greenhouse beats the shit out of mass produced hydro warehouse bud 99.9% of the time
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