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ZebraStripes



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7 grams and nothing...
#14332595 - 04/22/11 10:10 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I was just wondering if there is such a thing as a person who does not get visuals. Here is my story...
So I recently grew some PE. And as the grower you gotta try your product out before you give it to your friends. So I read up, decided to take 3.5 grams didn't want to go overboard. i was in a nice wooded park with a sitter. In a good mood as well, but nothing happened (visually) all i got was a body high and the colors were more vivid, but that's it. I decided to take 7 grams later that day but alas nothing happens either . At this point i was wondering if the mushrooms were not potent or if it was just me, since i had not waited long before the second dose. I decide to give my brother some (7 grams) to see how they affected him. Decided to watch Speed Racer and to my surprise he was trippin' balls I mean he had crazy visuals face meltings, objects moving by themselves, the giggles the whole shebang! So now I'm feeling relieved because I now know that they're good shrooms, and that he had a great trip. But I'm also feeling sad and jealous, very jealous. I decided not to give up waited a week and a half and took 7 grams yesterday went to a beautiful park just before twilight and sadly no visual just the same body high, vivid colors and the feeling of happiness. Don't get me wrong I know its not all about the visuals there are other aspects of the trip that i did enjoy. But just the fact that I can have my senses and my view of reality warped seemed so fucking awesome to me,and to not have that just...saddens me. I have another batch in the process so I'm hoping the fourth time is the charm But anyways I just want to know if I'm hopeless and should just give up? OR if there are certain instances where that sort of shit just happens and eventually i trip out?
BTW sorry if this post is a bit long, just wanted to make things clear.
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lsatrap
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Did you take 7 dry grams or 7 fresh grams?
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DesignatedTripper
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Are you taking any medications? Some meds are SSRI's and you won't be able to have a good, full trip while you're on them.
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ZebraStripes



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lsatrap said: Did you take 7 dry grams or 7 fresh grams?
dry.
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DesignatedTripper said: Are you taking any medications? Some meds are SSRI's and you won't be able to have a good, full trip while you're on them.
nothing at all.
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Kevin_X2
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mushroom visuals can be very subtle. if you want a real visual experiance, mix with mdma or dxm (both fantastic combos)
just dont think too hard about visuals. do some shrooms, sit on the couch, smoke up, and enjoy yourself!
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Re: 7 grams and nothing... [Re: Kevin_X2]
#14332784 - 04/22/11 10:53 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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trying to dose twice in one day has never worked for me either.
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Re: 7 grams and nothing... [Re: Kevin_X2]
#14332786 - 04/22/11 10:54 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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If you don't want to go with the expense or trouble of finding mdma then you could use whipits (Nitrous). The nice thing about whipits is that they are legal, easy to find, and relatively cheap, and short lasting (You don't have to commit to the effects if you don't like it). They allow you to take a 30 second journey with fantastic visuals or hallucinations. If you're not getting a level 5 trip with 7 grams, then up the dosage slightly and consider taking a few whippits. They are really cool!
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ZebraStripes



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Re: 7 grams and nothing... [Re: Gravity]
#14332824 - 04/22/11 11:04 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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its not easy to find mdma or dxm where i live at least i dont know anyone who i can get it from. next time ill mix it up with other substances but when i do it again tho how much more should i take in you opinion? i know more than 7 grams but say 1 oz dry or so? shrooms taste like shit idk how much i can take.
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DesignatedTripper
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Try using the Lemon Tek, I've never tried it personally but heard it works VERY well.
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drr

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ZebraStripes said: its not easy to find mdma or dxm where i live at least i dont know anyone who i can get it from. next time ill mix it up with other substances but when i do it again tho how much more should i take in you opinion? i know more than 7 grams but say 1 oz dry or so? shrooms taste like shit idk how much i can take.
LOL
no, don't just eat an ounce, that's crazy.
Were they fully dried, enough that they crack when you bend them?
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The Is
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Re: 7 grams and nothing... [Re: drr]
#14333160 - 04/22/11 12:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Wow, man, that's a bummer...
Maybe you need some more potent stuff!
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Re: 7 grams and nothing... [Re: The Is]
#14333721 - 04/22/11 02:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Try smoking some weed on the peak of the trip, it usually adds a nice visual aspect to the trip. Other than that as stated before try looking into the lemon tek. You could also try taking an m.a.o.i inhibitor like syrian rue or b.caapi. before ingesting the shrooms.
Don't get discouraged, it seems as though you're gonna have to experiment with dosage and/or other combo's to help with the visual aspect of the trip. Perhaps even try a different strain of mushroom?
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Re: 7 grams and nothing... [Re: thedream]
#14333746 - 04/22/11 02:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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get good and experienced at growing cubes, im saying own it! then study up on "pans". you can use alot of the same teks and same trays, lights, etc. then grow some pan. suphanburis on dung- eat 7 dry grams of that, if that dont give you visuals i`ll kiss your ass bud!
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ZebraStripes



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Re: 7 grams and nothing... [Re: jacobensis]
#14333853 - 04/22/11 03:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'll most definitely do the lemon tek. I had cranberry the first time I guess i needed more ascorbic acid.
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drr said:
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ZebraStripes said: its not easy to find mdma or dxm where i live at least i dont know anyone who i can get it from. next time ill mix it up with other substances but when i do it again tho how much more should i take in you opinion? i know more than 7 grams but say 1 oz dry or so? shrooms taste like shit idk how much i can take.
LOL
no, don't just eat an ounce, that's crazy.
Were they fully dried, enough that they crack when you bend them?
they didn't crack when bent but either way i should have gotten something i mean my brother was seriously tripping he said best shroom experience he ever had. that's why im seriously considering 1 oz I'm sure i can handle it IF I trip.
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The Is said: Wow, man, that's a bummer...
Maybe you need some more potent stuff! 
I'm very bummed. whats the most potent you ever had?
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jacobensis said: get good and experienced at growing cubes, im saying own it! then study up on "pans". you can use alot of the same teks and same trays, lights, etc. then grow some pan. suphanburis on dung- eat 7 dry grams of that, if that dont give you visuals i`ll kiss your ass bud!
this venture has turned into a true hobby for me. and i will for sure try to own it. i probably will go the pans route too wont hurt to try. and if i dont get visuals you'll be the first to know I'll make sure you have chap stick.
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Im really glad your brother had a great time. but next time don't dose him based on your reaction to them, everyone is different and it's 7g's, thats supposed to be enough to walk right up out of your body...LOL(it happened to a buddy of mine, he didnt even notice until he came back and realized he was on the fuckin floor)
and also wanted to insight to you not to get carried away with the next strain u work with because they may be up to par. a half an eighth of up to par cubes is enough for anyone to get their jollies.
but for now in your situation, i guess lemon tek would be the way to go. taste like sour butthole, though.
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ZebraStripes



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LSDilocybin said: Im really glad your brother had a great time. but next time don't dose him based on your reaction to them, everyone is different and it's 7g's, thats supposed to be enough to walk right up out of your body...LOL(it happened to a buddy of mine, he didnt even notice until he came back and realized he was on the fuckin floor)
and also wanted to insight to you not to get carried away with the next strain u work with because they may be up to par. a half an eighth of up to par cubes is enough for anyone to get their jollies.
but for now in your situation, i guess lemon tek would be the way to go. taste like sour butthole, though.
LOL so true I just figured that because he had done shrooms before with disappointing result 7 grams would hit the spot, i should had given him less tho. he got lucky I guess.
this second batch that i have is the same exact multispore, do you think that if i grow it in a better environment that it will have a better potency?
"sour butthole" sound fucking disgusting by the way.
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Just top it up with OJ right before you drink it. And it will taste like OJ with pulp... not sour butthole.
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LSDilocybin
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this second batch that i have is the same exact multispore, do you think that if i grow it in a better environment that it will have a better potency?
i mean do u think it was an environmental problem? some isolates arent potent and u dont get to pick with MS, the dominant one takes over and u get what u get. next batch might be better might be the same, doubtful they be any weaker.
back in the day a buddy of mine had 6 trays with 1 quart spawn each. there were some that were short fat meaty fuckers and other trays mushies were really tall and skinnier. i mean if u compared them u wouldnt think they were the same strain, but it is, just diff isolate of it that fruited in each tray.
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punkrocker292004
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ill tell you what most likely happened you got some bad multi spore genetics kinda hard to believe with pe pesh did the same deal to me when i first started growing
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ZebraStripes



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LSDilocybin said:
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this second batch that i have is the same exact multispore, do you think that if i grow it in a better environment that it will have a better potency?
i mean do u think it was an environmental problem? some isolates arent potent and u dont get to pick with MS, the dominant one takes over and u get what u get. next batch might be better might be the same, doubtful they be any weaker.
back in the day a buddy of mine had 6 trays with 1 quart spawn each. there were some that were short fat meaty fuckers and other trays mushies were really tall and skinnier. i mean if u compared them u wouldnt think they were the same strain, but it is, just diff isolate of it that fruited in each tray.
that batch was from an outdoor grow that was left to fruit without any help. that probably had some sort of an effect on the potency next one is going to be indoor mono for sure.
this is what i got.
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punkrocker292004 said: ill tell you what most likely happened you got some bad multi spore genetics kinda hard to believe with pe pesh did the same deal to me when i first started growing
that's what I'm thinking too I'm not an expert but even with the conditions they were grown in i would have expected better from a well recommended strain....oh well. I'll keep growing none the less this is a great hobby.
thank you all for your feedback by the way really helped.
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punkrocker292004
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nice yield thou man
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ZebraStripes



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why thank you! I'm probably going to print and frame that shot.
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ZebraStripes



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First time ever. why?
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Just in case body else mentioned it yet (didn't read whole thread), you can't eat shrooms twice on the same day an expect great results. Take at least a weeks break and then dose again with 5 grams (dry). If this isn't to your liking either then next week try again with 7 grams.
No matter what kind of natural resistance you have to psychedelics, if you take enough you'll eventually get visuals. Plus more you trip, the easier it will become to notice visuals because the more used to seeing them your brain becomes.
These more to the psychedelic experience than just visuals you know Enjoy.
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I have this problem, I think that the expectation of visuals can be the problem. I've tripped twice a day many times. In the past, by the end of magic mushroom season I can't trip at all. I've never eaten cultivated mushrooms, only wild. I recommend make mushroom tea and drink that, then eat some mushrooms on top of that, then continually and slowly chew on more mushrooms until you get the desired effect. Eat the boiled mushrooms too if you want.
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