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Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia
    #14332388 - 04/22/11 09:15 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Hello everyone. Probably my mushrooms are very easy to id, but I'm a newbie so need an advice from someone more experienced.
Just bought two packs of these mushies from a local shop. Had experience with some similar ones here before, took 1.5 pack and had an ego lost, now plan to take same amount. What would you say?


Habitat:
Indonesia, not sure whereabouts they pick it

Gills:
Dark, almost black

Stem:
Aboout 4-6 cm, thin and dark

Cap:
Small, around 0,5-1,5 cm, grey, more spherical than conical.

I'd be grateful for any tips.
Thanks in advance

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Re: Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia [Re: M-Spiral]
    #14332506 - 04/22/11 09:45 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

They remind me of a Copelandia species. Also REOMVOE THEM FROM THE BAG IMMEDIATELY BEFORE THEY SWEAT TO THE POINT OF ROTTING!!!!

Whoever sold you those does not know about transiting mushrooms. Picking/identifying them, maybe, but packing them, no ....


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Re: Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia [Re: Ieponumos]
    #14332519 - 04/22/11 09:50 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Ieponumos said:
They remind me of a Copelandia species. Also REOMVOE THEM FROM THE BAG IMMEDIATELY BEFORE THEY SWEAT TO THE POINT OF ROTTING!!!!

Whoever sold you those does not know about transiting mushrooms. Picking/identifying them, maybe, but packing them, no ....



Oh yeah, get em out of that bag.

Cool little mushies though.


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Re: Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia [Re: LanLord]
    #14332558 - 04/22/11 10:00 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

can you lay them all out and take another picture? I see several with charictoristics of Pan. cyanescens, but I think I see some that are not. Also don't think they are just because I said so, I'm not an expert

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Re: Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia [Re: Ieponumos]
    #14332840 - 04/22/11 11:08 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Ieponumos said:
They remind me of a Copelandia species. Also REOMVOE THEM FROM THE BAG IMMEDIATELY BEFORE THEY SWEAT TO THE POINT OF ROTTING!!!!

Whoever sold you those does not know about transiting mushrooms. Picking/identifying them, maybe, but packing them, no ....




Oh. How do I store them then? I want to consume them on Thursday which is another 4 days. I've read that you better keep them with no air, is it a myth?

Thank you for the reply

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Re: Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia [Re: M-Spiral]
    #14332858 - 04/22/11 11:12 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

maybe Panaeolous cyanescens. make sure theyre cracker dry and keep them in a paper bag and theyll be fine.


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Re: Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia [Re: LuckOfTheFryish]
    #14332887 - 04/22/11 11:21 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

This makes sense. Now they are not dry at all. How long will they handle being out here undried? Shall I keep them in the fridge this time? Cuz right now I have nothing to dry them out with, for another 10 hours.
Oh.

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Re: Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia [Re: M-Spiral]
    #14332896 - 04/22/11 11:23 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

leave em spread out in the sunshine or on newspaper and theyll dry out. but def. get them out of the condesated plastic bag


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Re: Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia [Re: LuckOfTheFryish]
    #14332904 - 04/22/11 11:27 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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leave em spread out in the sunshine or on newspaper and theyll dry out. but def. get them out of the condesated plastic bag




Or stick them in a fridge?


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Re: Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia [Re: Ieponumos] * 1
    #14332934 - 04/22/11 11:36 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

DON'T LEAVE THEM IN THE SUNSHINE! that'll ruin them. out in the open, yes, sunshine, no

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Re: Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia [Re: SomeGuy]
    #14332954 - 04/22/11 11:42 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

whats wrong with sunshine? ive never had a problem with it. i wouldnt put them in the fridge unless they were fresh fresh and you had proper containers. IMO theres too much condensation in the fridge. but i personally lay them all out on newspaper or cardboard flats and have fans going on them and that works. food dehydrators are amazing.


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Re: Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia [Re: LuckOfTheFryish]
    #14332965 - 04/22/11 11:44 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

the sunshine in canada is not the sunshine in bali indonesia, it's bright! sunshine=100+degrees for sure in bali

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Re: Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia [Re: SomeGuy]
    #14332995 - 04/22/11 11:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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paducahovoids said:
the sunshine in canada is not the sunshine in bali indonesia, it's bright! sunshine=100+degrees for sure in bali




lol fair enough


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Re: Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia [Re: LuckOfTheFryish]
    #14333090 - 04/22/11 12:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

put them in a paper bag in the fridge. they'll last four days. They're more potent fresh...if they're active. That picture doesn't tell me much at all.

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Re: Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia [Re: davide]
    #14333105 - 04/22/11 12:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

pan cyans are known for the pinkish/reddish tones in the stem. I'm pretty sure I see some white stems in there, and those are possibley not pan cyans

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Re: Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia [Re: SomeGuy]
    #14333139 - 04/22/11 12:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Take them out of the bag, spread them out on a newspaper/paper towel in a cool dry area, if possible use a fan but if you don't have one thats fine.
And don't put them in the fridge, they don't lose much potency when there dried. 
I hope you have a good time with them but be careful because Panaeolus cyanescens are very potent, dose accordingly.

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Re: Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia [Re: Kaiser]
    #14333155 - 04/22/11 12:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I just want to emphasize that no one has confirmed these are pan cyans yet, so post better pictures/descriptions before you eat them.

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Re: Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia [Re: Kaiser]
    #14333572 - 04/22/11 02:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

it's four days, not four weeks. What's the point of drying them? Mushrooms taste better fresh and they absolutely lose SOME of their potency when they're dried, especially if done quickly or in the sun.

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Re: Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia [Re: davide]
    #14333757 - 04/22/11 02:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

davide is right, just stick them in the fridge if you plan to use them soon.  They might be partially dried out by time you do use them, but they'll still be good.

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Re: Help to id please: bought in Bali, Indonesia [Re: SomeGuy]
    #14333920 - 04/22/11 03:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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paducahovoids said:
pan cyans are known for the pinkish/reddish tones in the stem. I'm pretty sure I see some white stems in there, and those are possibley not pan cyans





I have NEVER seen a copelandia with a reddish hue on the stem EVER

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